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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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starfire_xes said:
Unfortunately for me, I get rejected because I am old.



Yes, you do.  I do, too.  Welcome to the world of youth privilege. 

Imagine if you were named "Laquisha Ashante."  You'd never have a shot at all.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
you know the saying.. 'its a man's world'?  Its a wealthy white hetero man's world

men have privilege over women.

black men have privilege over black women.

a white woman has privilege over a black woman.

white heterosexual men have a privilege over white homosexual men

a rich man has a privilege over a poor man.

where race, gender, sexual orientation, sex, class meet is intersectionality.



Wouldn't Asians have privilege over whites in an Asian nation?  Or does this majority "privilege" just apply to white majority cultures?

It seems you're complaining about a natural phenomenon that occurs everywhere since the beginning of time.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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watch white supremacist demonstrations, driving automobiles into crowds of protesters, and shooting them.



sort of like Muslims and Anarchists have done for over a century (well, going into this mid-century, when it comes to automobiles, but still, blown the fuck out, Big bad)

http://listverse.com/2014/05/04/10-acts-of-anarchist-terrorism-that-shocked-the-world/

Leftism.^

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 2
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Asians absolutely have privilege over whites in Asian nations.  Blacks have privilege over whites in most African nations.

Of course, it's natural.  Everything is natural.  Natural =/= good.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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My daughter got a job, even though she is half asian and half white.

She got her job because.....get this......



SHE COULD READ. No one other applied could read. :lolsy:


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
starfire_xes said:
I just how it manifests itself so I can get privileged in this world.



You already are.  You don't have to do anything.  It manifests itself in thousands of ways, but here are a few:

1. When you apply for a job, your resume doesn't get rejected based on your name.
2. When you get pulled over, you get the polite cop who doesn't cut your seats open looking for drugs.
3. When you walk into a Walmart, the employees don't watch you like a hawk.
4. When you shop for a car, they don't ask to run your credit and job history before you go on a test drive.
5. When you go to a restaurant, they don't try to put you in an out of the way corner.
6. When you go to rent an apartment, you enjoy lower security deposits and credit score requirements.
7. If you are convicted of a crime, you get a shorter sentence.


That's just a few examples.  There are many more, though.  You probably rarely go a day without enjoying the benefits of your white privilege at least a few times.



I once was put into the corner of a restaurant, what's up with that?  It's because I'm Polish and a minority. Or maybe the restaurant just did it for their own reason regardless of the customer.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Blacks have privilege over whites in most African nations.



whites should have more privileges there then over blacks? and this is not racist, but motivated purely by "privilege"?

then is white privilege racist or isn't it? cause most people say it is.

"Academic perspectives such as critical race theory and whiteness studies use the concept of "white privilege" to analyze how racism and racialized societies affect the lives of white or white-skinned people."

^ so racism is synonymous ( in this wiki article) with a "racialized society", ie, blacks in white nation suffer from lack of privilege, and vise versa? do you think it is synonymous or should be synonymous? or is this not about sufferance but about simply having the privilege while the majority? what happens when that majority shifts? does a previously white nation then become a "black nation"?

seriously, you give me the answers, Enlil.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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Yeah, let's use anecdotal experiences you've had as evidence against systemic issues. 

I once got paid $1000 for an hour of work cleaning a cabin, THEREFORE, people who clean cabins make $1000/hour.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
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Yes, white privilege is racist.  Black privilege is racist.  Male privilege is sexist. Female privilege is sexist.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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(do) blacks in (a) white nation suffer from lack of privilege, and vise versa? do you think it is synonymous or should be synonymous? or is this not about sufferance but about simply having the privilege while the majority? what happens when that majority shifts? does a previously white nation then become a "black nation"?



answer the question, man. all i'm asking is for you to be honest.

PS: alot of BLM disagrees with your notions, by the way. to alot of people only white people can be racist, and this meme is growing on the left, because people...the left, and just ordinary people...are idiots. but you'll accept that, though.

Edited by akira_akuma (10/31/17 09:49 PM)

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
The Ecstatic said:
Do you think the national socialists in early 30's Germany ran for parliament on the Holocaust?

If you're a nazi, you have to stay on the edge of the Overton window. That way, the centrists will defend you and give you cover until you get enough power to expel them too.

have you never heard the "first they came for the socialists" quote? it exists for a reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...



What a great post. Unfortunately, it was completely overlooked, so I'm going to repost it, and add this:

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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



That's right, the Nazis didn't run on creating a Holocaust, but they were certainly a fringe, radical right wing party, and there were signs. The kind of signs Qman and others conveniently ignore. Now we're expected to sit back and watch white supremacist demonstrations, driving automobiles into crowds of protesters, and shooting them.



We have laws against driving cars into people and shooting guns at people.

Yes, we have no choice other than to "sit back and watch white supremacist demonstrations". It's called freedom of speech.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Yes, white privilege is racist.  Black privilege is racist.  Male privilege is sexist. Female privilege is sexist.



I have big dick privilege, I'm not doing anything about it to make small dick people feel better. :shrug:

Maybe it's a complete waste of time to constantly point out perceived inequalities, where does it stop?  Should I cut some of my dick off?

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 2
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About the antifas:

First they came for the Christian, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Christian.

Then they came for the Trumpsters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trumpster.

Then they came for the republicans, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a republican.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 2
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Of course not.  Just because I have white privilege doesn't mean I don't want to continue being white.  I just want to see black people get the same opportunities I have.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
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akira_akuma said:
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(do) blacks in (a) white nation suffer from lack of privilege, and vise versa? do you think it is synonymous or should be synonymous? or is this not about sufferance but about simply having the privilege while the majority? what happens when that majority shifts? does a previously white nation then become a "black nation"?



answer the question, man. all i'm asking is for you to be honest.

PS: alot of BLM disagrees with your notions, by the way. to alot of people only white people can be racist, and this meme is growing on the left, because people...the left, and just ordinary people...are idiots. but you'll accept that, though.



Edit the questions to make sense, and I'll consider it.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Enlil] * 1
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qman said:
Wouldn't Asians have privilege over whites in an Asian nation?  Or does this majority "privilege" just apply to white majority cultures?

It seems you're complaining about a natural phenomenon that occurs everywhere since the beginning of time.



Enlil said:
Asians absolutely have privilege over whites in Asian nations.  Blacks have privilege over whites in most African nations.




I agree with Enlil to an extent. Where there is a dominant group with power behind it, they can disadvantage others. Which is why racism = prejudice + the power structure to enforce it. but whites still have privilege in African countries to a large degree. Look at the disproportionate power and wealth of white South Africans post Apartheid. But also change of regime meant some white farmers disproportionate wealth was taken away.

To various extents, there is a structure of global white supremacist capitalist patriarchy which, while in decay, still exists.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Wouldn't Asians have privilege over whites in an Asian nation?



Obviously, yes. That is kinda how it works.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Yes, we have no choice other than to "sit back and watch white supremacist demonstrations". It's called freedom of speech.



thats legitimising genocide as a political position. How much are you prepared to normalise that on principle? What if the discourse was about committing genocide against polish americans? Would you say, yeah thats just their view.

And when enough people think that polish people should be killed or deported enmasse, and those people elect leaders that represent that normalised way of thinking.. are you still going to defend it as free speech?

and when they are rounding up people or killing dissidents. is it just free speech then? 

etc etc


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: starfire_xes] * 3
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One thing I find absolutely astonishing....is that some view racism and the like as an exclusive American issue.

For instance, in the Philippines people go to great lengths to whiten thier skin; darker people are viewed as poor as it is assumed they work outside all day. White privilege exists everywhere.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
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FlyOnTheWall said:
qman said:
Wouldn't Asians have privilege over whites in an Asian nation?



Obviously, yes. That is kinda how it works.



So if this aspect of human nature is universal regardless of the culture, race, sex, age and geographical location, why the outrage?

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