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How I do my coir.
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Ziran Does Coir


Step 1 - What we need


  • Coir - Bricks or Shredded (I will be using shredded coir)
  • Vermiculite (optional) - Although I like it for the water retention
  • Gypsum (also optional) - And again, I like it for the extra water retention as noted here --> Gyspum in soils
  • A big ass bucket - I get my pickle buckets from the local fast food places, they usually just throw them away.
  • Mushroom spawn - Duh, you kinda need this one for making mushrooms
  • A mono or mini-mono - and again, another no brainer!


Note: If you are using big ass bricks, and not the 650 gram eco earth bricks, heres a link on how to break that shit up easy peasy to make a 650 gram amount

Breaking Up Coir Ez Mode

Here are some pictures of the coir, gypsum and the bucket I use.




Step 2.1 - Prepping the Coir


If you are using the eco earth 650 gram bricks consult one of these two guides.

Elementary Coir Tek

Bod's Bucket Tek

If you are still here and following along, here is how I do my coir.

Preparation will vary based on how much coir you will need. When I do my big mono-tubs I use the standard 650 grams of coir, a handful of gypsum, and about 244 grams of vermiculite, (I like to do 75 grams per 200 grams of coir) and 1.25 quarts of water per 200 grams of coir. This ends up being about 4 quarts of water at the 650 grams of coir mark. As always, check for field capacity. When everything is thoroughly mixed up, you only want a few droplets of water to come out when squeezed tightly.

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Note: If your using shredded coir, I noticed the moisture content is a bit higher than the bricks of coir. Especially with the burpee brand. So adjust your water content accordingly. If you have to add more verm and coir to help absorb the excess water.




This will be me spawning 1 quart of spawn to 200 grams of coir, 75 grams verm, and a handful of gypsum.

Okay! Lets do this!

Step 2.2 Measure out your ingredients.

1. Coir 200 grams



2. Verm 75 grams



3. A handful of gypsum (just so happens that my handfuls are about 44 grams)



4. And last but not least, 1.25 quarts of water.

Step 2.3 - Mix all the dry ingredients into your bucket

Coir. Check!



Verm.. Check!



Gypsum... Check!



And then I like to mix everything up nice and good.



Step 2.4 - Boil and add your water


This step is pretty straight forward, bring your water to a roaring boil, and then dump her into the bucket, then replace the lid on your bucket, like in the pictures below.







After about 15-30 minutes, I like to give it a good ol' stir just to get all the water mixed in evenly. This is also the step where I identify if I need to add more water or more verm.

Looks good! :thumbup:




Step 3 - Preparing your sub


Now, after your coir has cooled to at least less than 90 degree's Fahrenheit, we can mix our spawn in with our prepped coir!

Not quite there, but almost.



In the mean time, considering this coir is almost ready to be mixed with our spawn, Break up our spawn then we can soak our grain jar with water for about 20 minutes like so.



And simply drain our water by hold the lid tight like this



Get our tub ready, I like to make sure shes all cleaned out. I will be using this
style tub for my mini mono.



Then, once our coir is cooled down below 90 degrees, dump our spawn into the tub, and last but not least, dump our prepped coir into the tub, and mix it all nice and evenly.







Mission Complete Boys. You've just prepped and spawned a tub.

Here are some examples of some trays I've done prepping coir this way.









3-16-2017



3-17-2017



Later that day



Also, I have done BRF cakes to coir this way as well, there is also a monotub in this thread A tale of 13 cakes

Edited by Ziran (04/29/19 01:01 AM)

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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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Nice write up mate! You should include some fruits from the final product :smile:. Maybe a link to making a mono as well.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: TravelAgency]
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will do. I give it a week and a half till shes fruiting.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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:ohsodevious:


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: TravelAgency]
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pretty sure gypsum is supposed to be white.

Is there manure added to that or is that just the outer shell to make it into pellets?


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: tombosley8]
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http://geology.com/minerals/gypsum.shtml

gypsum can be the following colors:

Clear, colorless, white, gray, yellow, red, brown

:shrug: it was in the garden section. lol. the bag doesnt say anything about manure added to it.

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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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Encapยฎ Fast ActingTM Gypsum

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

Calcium Sulfate Dihydrate (CaSO4-2H2O)                  92%
Calcium (Ca)                                        20%
Sulfur (S)                                      16%
16% Combined Sulfur (S)
Derived from gypsum (calcium sulfate dihydrate (CaSO4-2H2O))

ALSO CONTAINS NONPLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS:
SOIL AMENDING GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS
1.5% Polymers
1.0% Anionic Polyacrylamide Copolymer (Emulsion)
0.5% Anionic Polyacrylamide Copolymer (Solid)
INERT INGREDIENTS
Gypsum 92%**
Lignosulfonates 2%
Other Inert Ingredients 4.5%
**This does not apply to California per Section 2300.1 of CCR
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

Calcium Sulfate (CaSO4)                          72%
Calcium (Ca)      20%
Combined Sulfur (S)    16%
Derived from mined gypsum

ALSO CONTAINS NONPLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS:
1.5% Polymers
1.0% Anionic Polyacrylamide Copolymer (Emulsion)
0.5% Anionic Polyacrylamide Copolymer (Solid)
INERT INGREDIENTS
Lignosulfonates (binding agent)                  2%

so idk what that all means but yeah your good to go I think just 8% other mostly inert ingredients shouldn't hurt.

Edited by tombosley8 (09/12/17 03:06 AM)

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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: tombosley8]
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yah. I found that same link. the shit works pretty well. Easy to use. and fuck I have so much of it, im never gonna have to buy any for a loooooong time. it was like 10 bucks for 30 lbs of it.


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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I've never heard of anyone soaking their grain spawn before spawning. Is that a standard practice?


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: dhype773]
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dhype773 said:
I've never heard of anyone soaking their grain spawn before spawning. Is that a standard practice?



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17616982

It was a post by frank I read a while back. Been doing it ever since. I think its supposed to be similar to dunking a cake.


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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Thanks, I'll read up on it.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: dhype773]
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:thumbup:


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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Thanks, I'll read up on it. Seems legit. I guess there will be some side by sides in my near future lol.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: dhype773]
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post them results. I'll watch that to see the results. I havent ever spawned without soaking so I have no idea what the difference would be lol.


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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Interesting idea soaking the grains themselves.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: JHOVA]
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Here are some quotes from Roger Rabbit who made the Let's Grow Mushrooms videos.

"Gypsum should be added to every batch of grains, every bulk substrate and every casing layer.  It provides calcium and sulfur without altering the pH.
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"Gypsum can provide up to a 25% increase in harvest weight over not using it in bulk substrates.
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"Gypsum serves two purposes. It adds calcium and sulfur, both essential mushroom nutrients, and helps prevent the grains from sticking and clumping up."

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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: migraineur]
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no doubt that gypsum is good. clean spawn is more important thou


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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About 24 hours later. good recovery!


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: Ziran]
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Do you find that soaking grains could wash away potential inoculation points when you tip it out again?


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Re: How I do my coir. [Re: lovelaughlibs]
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I'm sure some do. But shit I havent seen it have any effect on colonization time. There are so many innoc points as is, the slight amount of fillaments that get washed away cant be to many.


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Song Of Healing
:super: Updated Pf Tek Guide :super:
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
The Chinese word for nature is zรฌrรกn and it means that of which is of itself.


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