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polygraph lie detectors
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ever done one of these tests?

i might be hooked up to one pretty soon for my old roommate who i lived with for a long time and I agreed to be interviewed by government officials about him. He's doing some top secret scientific work for them or something and they have to do a security clearance. So they will basically interrogate me about him. Wondering how sensitive the machines are, i can get pretty edgy when under interrogation. i might set off the lie meter by just being in the room. They are going to ask me about his life and shit. He said he already disclosed his drug use to them. worried i might mess it up and ruin his life


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: trees] * 1
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Polygraphs have been debunked, they dont work.

You can easily cause a false positive and people have been known to lie through them, its pseudo science.

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Repertoire89]
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i see that on the wiki page. maybe they still use it as a supportive measure to help ensure valid statements


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Repertoire89] * 2
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Repertoire89 said:
Polygraphs have been debunked, they dont work.

You can easily cause a false positive and people have been known to lie through them, its pseudo science.



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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: trees]
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Yes I've been polygraphed by the police. I can honestly say that shit don't work. I told the truth for hours they weren't buying it so I agreed to a poly and told the truth yet again and it said I was lying. I eventually had to just make up some bullshit that they wanted to hear so they'd let me go. If I had ever been called to the stand to testify about it, I would've told the entire court what I endured, which I'm pretty sure is why that "case" never went anywhere.


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Shroomslip] * 2
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The point of a polygraph isn't to detect a lie.  It's to trick someone into making admissions they wouldn't otherwise make.


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Enlil]
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They will use everything against you in the court of law, dont do it! Its a trap!

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: trees]
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:feelsparanoidman:


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: trees]
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trees said:
ever done one of these tests?

i might be hooked up to one pretty soon for my old roommate who i lived with for a long time and I agreed to be interviewed by government officials about him. He's doing some top secret scientific work for them or something and they have to do a security clearance. So they will basically interrogate me about him. Wondering how sensitive the machines are, i can get pretty edgy when under interrogation. i might set off the lie meter by just being in the room. They are going to ask me about his life and shit. He said he already disclosed his drug use to them. worried i might mess it up and ruin his life


Indeed, polygraphs do not prove anything. Although, they may suggest. They also make you nervous. My last supervisor taught me a little interrogation technique he knew of. It was combined with putting pressure on the subject and using a basic trick that is hard to pick up on -- Especially, he said, for those from the middle east.


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: XUL]
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Waterboarding is wrong  :nono:

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Enlil]
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Entil is it legal for jobs to give you a polygraph before they employ you?


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Grateful Dead]
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Nope.  They can polygraph you all they want.  You can refuse, of course, but they can not hire/fire you because of it.


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Enlil]
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Polygraph tests are like Magic 8 balls

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: trees]
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I have a handful of friends with secret clearances and they get polygraphed yearly.

Never heard of a reference being polygraphed, thats pretty odd. When I was interested in doing "secret" research, I was told that the really good stuff is reserved for those actually enlisted in the military. Civilians get less interesting work. I was interested in human performance type stuff though.


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: badchad]
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Like cyborgs?

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: zZZz]
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Edited by thetechnician (07/13/20 09:15 PM)

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Repertoire89]
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Its basically a trick, they use the scientific looking apparatus and tell you they know if you are lying and hope you are tricked into telling them what they want to know. The only valid thing about it is it does reveal stress and the theory is that you will be stressed when you lie. But some people feel no stress when lying and some feel stress when telling the truth.

If you tense up certain muscles each time they ask you a question, it creates a pattern. They know the answers to certain questions so they think this is the pattern when he tells the truth. When you lie, you tense the same muscles and they think its true.


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Stonehenge]
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I juuat heard that i def wont be polygraphed, but still have to back up his descriptions. Going to be interesting. When they called me they already knew stuff about me

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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: trees]
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How much drugs did your friend use, and was still able to work for the goverment?

Is he a Ph.D or working on one?


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Re: polygraph lie detectors [Re: Grateful Dead]
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I know people with secret clearances, but they never interviewed me

:okay:

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