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InvisibleOld_Toby
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Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata?
    #23490414 - 07/29/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hello everyone! I finally got around to going on my first forage (hoping to locate Psilocybe semilanceata) . Here's what I found, if anyone could be kind enough to help me I.D. them, I will  be forever in your debt. I did as much research as I could online and I'm fairly hopeful that I've found a psilocybin containing species, but I'm a complete newcomer to foraging; and not being mental, I need help to get them identified before they go anywhere near my mouth. I'm especially concerned about 16 and 19, they looked good at the time but they haven't bruised blue like the others, is this a problem? I haven't been able to get a spore print unfortunately, though not for lack of trying. I picked the shrooms at altitude and am now at sea level, could this be the reason?

Habitat: Mountain grassland, sheep grazing nearby - Found in patches of short grass surrounded by longer grass, growing straight from soil

Gills: The gill color varies from an olive-grey to a dark brown color.

Stem: Whitish, robost, slightly enlarged at base.

Cap: Mostly creamy some brown, many tear-shaped most with a distinct nipple, varies in size from 2cm to .5cm, most caps curve in at the bottom, a small number flair out.

Bruising: Significant blue bruising on many of the mushrooms.

Location: 1800 FT above sea level in the hills of North West Wales, on a South Facing Slope













I hope I've followed all the rules correctly, thanks very much in advance!


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Old_Toby]
    #23490499 - 07/29/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:


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InvisibleOld_Toby
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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: SkagitHunter]
    #23490513 - 07/29/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We're all good? What about number 16? I'm thinking of binning it (not least because of the larvae visible in the picture :sad:)

Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate it! So happy that my first ever trip was a success :mushroom2: :crazy2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Old_Toby]
    #23490662 - 07/29/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They're all Psilocybe semilanceata, even the numbers 16 and 19. Nice blueing and nice finds! :thumbup:


Edited by velho (07/29/16 10:58 PM)


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: velho]
    #23492023 - 07/30/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's brilliant, thanks. All that research paid off! :thumbup:


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Old_Toby] * 1
    #23492877 - 07/30/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Those are nice hearty libs. Good job! :thumbup: Should be enough for a somewhat significant dose,  on the lighter side. Personally I would consume all fresh rather than dry which causes some loss of potency.


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Old_Toby]
    #23492922 - 07/30/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice. Iv'e found liberty caps while walking up mount snowdon (pyg track) in July before. I wish we got them in July where I live (near London).

Some of those liberty caps seem to have blueing stalks which Iv'e noticed on the odd mushroom here and there when I pick them. I'm wondering if they are a slightly different species as usually they don't bruise blue. Or maybe just the mycelium bruises blue, although I have seen blueing around the inside edges of the caps sometimes.


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Saunterer]
    #23492998 - 07/30/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll go out again tomorrow and eat them in the hills I think, just have a wander and a ponder. There's almost nothing of any species lower than about 1500 feet where I am, which is why I decided to go on a mission up on high. They grew in tiny sporadic patches and it took me a few hours and lots of mileage to find the 18 that I did. The good thing is that there were quite a few immature ones that I left to grow/spore, so I'll be able to go back and get them at some point too. I'm really looking forward to the weather changing so I can get a proper lay of the land, this being my first season. I've been meaning to do it for the last 16 years but was always daunted!


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23493016 - 07/30/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The blueing got really intense after a few hours, I've not got much experience with libs but it reminds me of a smaller version of the Mexican ones I used to buy from head shops when it was still legal to sell them fresh (cubensis I think). I recognised the distinctive cap shape of the libs immediately, but it was the robust, blueing stalk that had me dancing when I found them, as it was so familiar to me. I've heard that not all libs bruise, but it's a handy little identifier so I hope all the shrooms near me are as helpful!


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Old_Toby]
    #23493177 - 07/30/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Those are beasts.


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: elprawn]
    #23493437 - 07/30/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm wondering whether summer semilanceata might be more suitable for indoor cultivation attempts than the autumn ones.. I'm attempting to grow some semi mycelium on agar (rye grain/berry water added) from the spores from 4 dried caps at the moment, though these were last october's mushrooms. I just spotted a few tiny white specks earlier on the agar, so either it's mycelium or it's mold/bacteria.

Oh and by the way a little tip. When you see them sticking out of the long grass (I'm assuming by their tall appearance), just kind of comb your way through that grass directly around the mushrooms and you may well find a load of smaller ones hiding there. Iv'e been picking with other people a few times and they will find several mushrooms, move on to a different area of grass and I'll go to where they found them and find 20 or 30 more that they completely failed to spot. Often there are plenty more hiding by the ones visible above the grass.

Most times Iv'e ever gone picking Iv'e gone alone.


Edited by wicca mixer (07/30/16 06:57 PM)


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: wicca mixer] * 1
    #23494432 - 07/31/16 02:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it! I did try that actually as it was recommended on a few of the videos I watched. They were really sporadic, from what I could tell with my inexpert eyes. I think I'm lucky to find the ones that I did. My own attempts at mushroom cultivation many years ago went awry at the first stage and I never got them to take unfortunately. One of my exes found the hyperdermic I used to spread the spores and asked me if I had a problem! (I did of course, my magic mushrooms wouldn't  grow!)


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23494857 - 07/31/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

wicca mixer said:
I'm wondering whether summer semilanceata might be more suitable for indoor cultivation attempts than the autumn ones.. I'm attempting to grow some semi mycelium on agar (rye grain/berry water added) from the spores from 4 dried caps at the moment, though these were last october's mushrooms. I just spotted a few tiny white specks earlier on the agar, so either it's mycelium or it's mold/bacteria.

Oh and by the way a little tip. When you see them sticking out of the long grass (I'm assuming by their tall appearance), just kind of comb your way through that grass directly around the mushrooms and you may well find a load of smaller ones hiding there. Iv'e been picking with other people a few times and they will find several mushrooms, move on to a different area of grass and I'll go to where they found them and find 20 or 30 more that they completely failed to spot. Often there are plenty more hiding by the ones visible above the grass.

Most times Iv'e ever gone picking Iv'e gone alone.





Interestingly the experience of them is also different too, not talking slightly either, almost like a phenotype / complete alkaloid reshuffle, 1.7 dry, no visuals, very high bodyload, paralysis feeling and this isn't just this year it's happened every first few flushes till it gets below 10 in the day time


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I give you the choice of 2 pills.

With each containing one of the following:
Cyanide... Psilocin... Would you take the risk?
Didn't think so.

This is why Positive Identification prior to consumption is important.


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Re: Identification request: Psilocybe Semilanceata? [Re: Blazeyy]
    #23495411 - 07/31/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's a sub


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