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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
bennylava said:
lol at all the fools who think a nation can be taxed into prosperity. Just lol.


I must have missed part of the conversation.  Who ever said a nation can be taxed into prosperity?


That was... nobody. :carlinorgasm:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
Most Muslims are not bad people.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec/

A new Pew Research Center survey of Muslims around the globe finds that most adherents of the world’s second-largest religion are deeply committed to their faith and want its teachings to shape not only their personal lives but also their societies and politics.


Hence why they push to change the way the Western world works, to better suit their own ideology's and beliefs. Europe is not an Islamic state.

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In all but a handful of the 39 countries surveyed, a majority of Muslims say that Islam is the one true faith leading to eternal life in heaven and that belief in God is necessary to be a moral person.


Haha okay, the majority are religious nut jobs, thats nothing that we didn't all ready know any way.

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Many also think that their religious leaders should have at least some influence over political matters. And many express a desire for sharia – traditional Islamic law – to be recognized as the official law of their country.


Exactly the reason why Muslims should not be allowed to be come the majority populace in the West. They would, with out question, implement sharia law here if that were to happen.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
bennylava said:
lol at all the fools who think a nation can be taxed into prosperity. Just lol.


I must have missed part of the conversation.  Who ever said a nation can be taxed into prosperity?


That was... nobody. :carlinorgasm:


It was all socialists.

Or unless you're fully aware socialism does NOT lead to prosperity,  yet promote it anyways.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins] * 3
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Shins said:
Bigbadwooof said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
bennylava said:
lol at all the fools who think a nation can be taxed into prosperity. Just lol.


I must have missed part of the conversation.  Who ever said a nation can be taxed into prosperity?


That was... nobody. :carlinorgasm:


It was all socialists.

Or unless you're fully aware socialism does NOT lead to prosperity,  yet promote it anyways.


Works for Germany... but everything you just said has nothing to do with what we were talking about.


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Edited by Bigbadwooof (02/28/16 03:48 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 1
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Bubbles85 said:
Malkuthian said:
...strange that you continue to speak about "them". Like the bad guys in a comic book. "them vs us", "good vs evil". There real world is not written in such absolutes...

...you are showing examples of certain groups of Muslims claiming their actions represent the entire groups. You just denigrate Muslims by stating what the extremists do.

Most Muslims are not bad people.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec/


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A new Pew Research Center survey of Muslims around the globe finds that most adherents of the world’s second-largest religion are deeply committed to their faith and want its teachings to shape not only their personal lives but also their societies and politics.


Hence why they push to change the way the Western world works, to better suit their own ideology's and beliefs. Europe is not an Islamic state.


"They"?  Did you not read/understand Malkuthian's last post?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins] * 4
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Shins said:
Bigbadwooof said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Who ever said a nation can be taxed into prosperity?


That was... nobody.


It was all socialists.


Your lack of understanding of socialism is very impressive for someone who claims (but cannot demonstrate) he knows economics.

Shins said:
unless you're fully aware socialism does NOT lead to prosperity,  yet promote it anyways.


Democratic socialism has been proven to reduce poverty and helps to ensure workers are fairly compensated for their contributions to their companies.

Taxation simply pays the bills for things like education, healthcare, and infrastructure.  Duh.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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So socialism does not claim to tax and spend into prosperity?  Isn't that the entire idea of it?


You know what.  I'm not wasting another minute of my day on you guys and your nonsense


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bubbles85 said:
Malkuthian said:
...strange that you continue to speak about "them". Like the bad guys in a comic book. "them vs us", "good vs evil". There real world is not written in such absolutes...

...you are showing examples of certain groups of Muslims claiming their actions represent the entire groups. You just denigrate Muslims by stating what the extremists do.

Most Muslims are not bad people.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec/


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A new Pew Research Center survey of Muslims around the globe finds that most adherents of the world’s second-largest religion are deeply committed to their faith and want its teachings to shape not only their personal lives but also their societies and politics.


Hence why they push to change the way the Western world works, to better suit their own ideology's and beliefs. Europe is not an Islamic state.


"They"?  Did you not read/understand Malkuthian's last post?


Yes "they"

The article that Malkuthian posted, is clearly representative of the entire Muslim population Globally. All 1.6 billion of them.

Within the article, it clearly states that -

A new Pew Research Center survey of Muslims around the globe finds that most adherents of the world’s second-largest religion are deeply committed to their faith and want its teachings to shape not only their personal lives but also their societies and politics

Hence why i stated, that all Muslims, be them good, or bad, push to change the way that laws and politics work, within any given adopted country, to better suit their own beliefs and ideologies.

I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand.

Or maybe I'm just "racist" for pointing that out?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins] * 2
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Shins said:
So socialism does not claim to tax and spend into prosperity?  Isn't that the entire idea of it?


You know what.  I'm not wasting another minute of my day on you guys and your nonsense


No, Socialism does not make that claim. You view economics in such simple, childish terms... Mr. Economist. There is so much more to all of this, much of which you've graciously been walked through hand-in-hand.

Nobody said we should tax our way to prosperity. What Socialist ever said that? Give me one example, please lmao!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Wow.  Just wow.

How do you propose to provide revenue for social programs if not by taxing and spending?

Isn't the idea that social programs make everyone more prosperous according to socialists?

If you're about to say; just print it! 

#1 inflation is a tax

#2 I've never seen you talk about changing the monetary system.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85...

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Hence why i stated, that all Muslims, be them good, or bad, push to change the way that laws and politics work, within any given adopted country, to better suit their own beliefs and ideologies.



100% true. Watch this: 1.33 to 3.09



It's plain as the day is long Islam is not compatible with the West and the evidence is over whelming.


Tipote...

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What laws are refugees breaking?


When they continue to walk on through the first safe nation of refuge they are no longer refugees, instead they're invaders. Only a fool or a liar would claim these country shoppers are refugees. Over 80% are not even Syrian and the vast bulk are fighting age males. That's an invading army.

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Do you accept misogyny is widely present amongst aussies?


Nice projection attempt. There's no way Australians would stand back and allow 1400 White children to be raped by Pakistani Muslims in Rotherdam, as has happened in your UK by cowardly political correctness over the last 16 years. Such hateful misogyny has been imported from the Muslim third world wholesale to the UK and you refuse to accept and see it.

See 3.18



Meanwhile you will vilify any who speak up as "racists", "bigots", "Islamophobes", "orientalists", and "xenophobes" while you sprout on about the cultural enrichment and wonders of diversity. It's people like you, Tipote, that are destroying the UK. Where as folks like Bubbles85 are standing up for the UK. It's that's plain to see. Yes, how's that cultural enrichment going, Tipote? You're responsible for this because you side the multicultural evil.

http://www.plan-uk.org/because-i-am-a-girl/early-and-forced-marriage/child-marriage-in-the-uk/


New laws in the UK aim to tackle child marriage

It is now a criminal offence to force someone into a marriage, male or female, and can be met with a hefty prison sentence. The new law protects anyone in England and Wales who is a victim of forced marriage, and importantly, also extends to British nationals at risk of being forced to marry abroad.


http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/23/nhs-new-cases-female-genital-mutilation-fgm-three-months

NHS reports 1,026 new cases of female genital mutilation in three months

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Have you heard of Tony Abbott? LOL


Tony Abbott has a happy wife and three successful daughters who were always at his side in support. If he was a chauvinist, misogynist, sexist pig, as the Leftist BBC and the Guardian would have their readers believe, why did they support him?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-01-27/opposition-leader-tony-abbott-and-his-three/310632

Compare to the likes of the childless Julia Gillard, who only became the first woman prime minister by stabbing the then Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the back. No one liked her inside or outside her party and the Labor caucus booted her, then Labor reinstated Kevin Rudd which ensured a modest Labor defeat and not a landslide annihilation from Abbott's September-2013 victory. As it stands Labor is likely to remain in the wilderness for another two federal terms thanks to Gillard. Had Gillard her way going up against Abbott in the federal election Labor would have vanished as a political entity. Gillard is looked at very unfavorably by the Australian Left for the damage she did to Labor. The only card Gillard could ever play is accuse Abbott of being a sexist. It was pathetic then and pathetic of you now.


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BBW wasnt talking about australia, true. He wasn't saying that Australia denied climate change


Bullshit. He, like you, found it news that conservatives accept the science of Climate Change. To Leftists it's almost impossible that conservatives will accept Climate Change, because the Left has hijacked and monopolised the issue as a way for global socialism i.e. wealth redistribution to the third world based on carbon taxes. The Left also wants to open Western borders for hundreds of millions of Climate Change refugees. The Syrian war was the result of drought through climate shift. It was the catalyst to spark a brutal war not seen since the Spanish Civil War. There is much published on this.

Climate Change is accepted by the military and by all with the sense to see the cultural threat of hundreds of millions of third world invaders seeking to parasite a better life in the West. The solution is to build borders of deadly force and to harden the hearts of the population against the threat. The threat has already bought in third world regressed cultures of Islam's rape and plunder, third world diseases, and the trouble of their failed states to our nations.

The planet is vastly over populated and Climate Change is nature's way of arbitrating a correction because humans refuse to regulate themselves. Part of the regulation is to not allow successful nations be invaded by the failed.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Holy shit, that was one good post.  I have learned a lot just by reading your posts, Starter.  Keep em coming!

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
"They"?  Did you not read/understand Malkuthian's last post?


Yes "they"

Within the article, it clearly states that -

A new Pew Research Center survey of Muslims around the globe finds that most adherents of the world’s second-largest religion are deeply committed to their faith and want its teachings to shape not only their personal lives but also their societies and politics

Hence why i stated, that all Muslims, be them good, or bad, push to change the way that laws and politics work, within any given adopted country, to better suit their own beliefs and ideologies.


Got it.  Muslims are exactly like Ted Cruz.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Shins said:
So socialism does not claim to tax and spend into prosperity?  Isn't that the entire idea of it?


You know what.  I'm not wasting another minute of my day on you guys and your nonsense


No, Socialism does not make that claim. You view economics in such simple, childish terms... Mr. Economist.

Nobody said we should tax our way to prosperity. What Socialist ever said that? Give me one example, please lmao!


Exactly.  He likes to 'make believe' what socialism is so he can attack it.  Then when people who actually know what socialism is correct him or ask him to prove himself, he whines about it claiming he's "too busy" or "wasting his time".  Facts just don't seem to matter to Shins.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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You going to claim now that socialists don't intend to tax and spend?

Do you argue just for the sake of arguing?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
You going to claim now that socialists don't intend to tax and spend?

Do you argue just for the sake of arguing?


That wasn't the argument.  All economic systems tax and spend.  Let's review the argument:

Bigbadwooof said:
Quote:
Shins said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
bennylava said:
lol at all the fools who think a nation can be taxed into prosperity. Just lol.


I must have missed part of the conversation.  Who ever said a nation can be taxed into prosperity?


It was all socialists.


Nobody said we should tax our way to prosperity. What Socialist ever said that? Give me one example, please lmao!


Are you going to answer wooof's question, or try and change the subject and hope no one notices?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bubbles85 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
"They"?  Did you not read/understand Malkuthian's last post?


Yes "they"

Within the article, it clearly states that -

A new Pew Research Center survey of Muslims around the globe finds that most adherents of the world’s second-largest religion are deeply committed to their faith and want its teachings to shape not only their personal lives but also their societies and politics

Hence why i stated, that all Muslims, be them good, or bad, push to change the way that laws and politics work, within any given adopted country, to better suit their own beliefs and ideologies.


Got it.  Muslims are exactly like Ted Cruz.


Not even close, Cruz probably isn't even a true believer, it's a whore to corporate interests and nothing more, he's a massive liberal relative to Muslims in the EU.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 4
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Got it.  Muslims are exactly like Ted Cruz.


Not even close, Cruz probably isn't even a true believer


Ted Cruz said:
I'm a Christian first, I'm an American second, I'm a conservative third, and I'm a republican fourth.


https://grabien.com/file.php?id=74007

Anyone who puts religion above country is unfit to be President; at least in a country that has freedom of religion.

Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (02/29/16 12:17 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Got it.  Muslims are exactly like Ted Cruz.


Not even close, Cruz probably isn't even a true believer


Ted Cruz said:
I'm a Christian first, I'm an American second, I'm a conservative third, and I'm a republican fourth.


https://grabien.com/file.php?id=74007

Anyone who puts religion above country is unfit to be President; at least in a country that has freedom of religion.


I never liked Cruz, for an intelligent man, he's a real dummy. :lol:  His economic plan which he never talks about is a disgrace.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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Perhaps now that the Left in France are targeted by the Islamists they'll finally wake up.
The obvious: if France had never allowed in a third world invasion of North African Muslims they wouldn't have an Islamist problem.

http://www.tolerance.ca/Article.aspx?ID=300752&L=en
France: Academics and Journalists who Criticize Islam Need Police Protection
You are sentenced to death. It's just a matter of time." This message, in Arabic, was sent by Islamists to Laurence Marchand-Taillade, National Secretary of the Parti Radical de Gauche (Radical Party of the Left). She now lives under the protection of the French police.

"After a few moments of fear, I thought that if there are these threats it is because my fight foiled the plans of the Muslim Brothers by bringing them to light. I decided not to give up. Islamists began a long process of infiltrating all sectors of civil society. The concept is based on the written doctrines of Hassan al-Banna, the grandfather of [Tariq] Ramadan. Their flag has two swords and the Koran; indoctrination and violence are the methods to gain power. France is a country chosen for several reasons: it has a large population from North Africa; it is a secular country in which you can use the freedoms of democracy as weapons against it, and it had weak policies. The only way to stop the threat is to reaffirm secularism and absolute freedom of conscience. We cannot allow entire portions of the French population to fall in the trap of hating the country where they are born and, above all, which considers them part of the nation. It is choice of civilization, while there is an attempt to destroy two centuries of progress for humanity."


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