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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

This is because most employees today are paid FAR less than they're worth to a company.


Yup.

Personally I endorse a Total Asset Cap, at about 5 million dollars.
In addition to a much higher minimum wage.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Cultural diversity's a scam. A fabricated phenomenon, used by the political elite to halt any objection toward there will.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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Bubbles85 said: There not helpless women and children, like the media would have every one believe.



What?
I don't know what media your listening to, but I'v never ever seen anything in the media from my country or any other country that suggest the refugees are mostly helpless women and children. Furthermore I just have to go outside for 5 minutes to see at least 10-20 refugees. I know they are mostly men. Everyone who lives in a country with a lot of refugees knows this...

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qman said:
They're coming from Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Northern Africa, Iran, ect. and also Syria.

They are taking advantage of a chaotic situation and claiming to be fleeing from Syria, most are lying.

Living on welfare in Germany is 100 times better than living in the shitholes that came from in the first place.


"most are lying".
And I'm supposed to take your word for it? YOU are mostly lying....
There are a lot of refugees and the amount will increase due to climate issues, like desertification. Even if your lies would be correct, the issue with actual refugees fleeing to survive would still be the reality soon. And the people coming here would be the same people with the same culture. What to do then?

What do you base this "most" on? Some sort of evidence? Personal experience with immigrants? No?

Yes, some are from iraq:
Bombings during Iraq War
Terrorist incidents in Iraq 2014
Damn shitty place to live.

I do not have a strong connection to my country. I'm far from a patriot. I support my country with taxes and I an very happy doing this, every citizen should take his part in the society. But I do not have an emotional bond with my country. If my country would be bombed and turned into a war zone because of some bullshit reasons like oil, I would not stand and fight. My life is more important than my country. The west have been attacking and bombing in the middle east for a long time. The conflicts sometimes does not even concern the people living in that area. Be it oil-issues or retaliation on terror organizations. Either way, after living in fear of being bombed by either USA or Daesh or whoever, after a while I would guess they had enough and would rather focus on surviving than fighting to their deaths for someone else's cause.

Your saying that their only choice in this is to join the west and hunt for terrorists, otherwise they are bad people who shouldn't be allowed to flee for their lives? Fight or die?

This also answers:

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Straw Man said
survival is a matter of choice, if they want to survive, they should fight for their country, not choose the easy way out. Of course they are fleeing violence, but if the millions who are fleeing violence would actually stand up for their country, they could have the peace and security they seek. without being a burden on other countries...


Even of you are a patriot you should be able to understand that not everyone else is, and that is actually okay...


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Edited by Malkuthian (01/16/16 07:21 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
There are a lot of refugees and the amount will increase due to climate issues, like desertification. Even if your lies would be correct, the issue with actual refugees fleeing to survive would still be the reality soon. And the people coming here would be the same people with the same culture. What to do then?


In regard to desertification.

Can European agriculture support the population of the ME?
Particularly with the biosphere deteriorating to the point where there are mass exodus'...


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I do not have a strong connection to my country. I'm far from a patriot. I support my country with taxes and I an very happy doing this, every citizen should take his part in the society. But I do not have an emotional bond with my country. If my country would be bombed and turned into a war zone because of some bullshit reasons like oil, I would not stand and fight. My life is more important than my country. The west have been attacking and bombing in the middle east for a long time. The conflicts sometimes does not even concern the people living in that area. Be it oil-issues or retaliation on terror organizations. Either way, after living in fear of being bombed by either USA or Daesh or whoever, after a while I would guess they had enough and would rather focus on surviving than fighting to their deaths for someone else's cause.


Humans are always killing each other, I wouldn't want to be involved either.

Deus ex Machina!

:pope:

The Lord Saith, thou must kill them.
He swears it'll be the last time.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
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Bubbles85 said: There not helpless women and children, like the media would have every one believe.



What?
I don't know what media your listening to, but I'v never ever seen anything in the media from my country or any other country that suggest the refugees are mostly helpless women and children. Furthermore I just have to go outside for 5 minutes to see at least 10-20 refugees. I know they are mostly men. Everyone who lives in a country with a lot of refugees knows this...


Really?, I don't believe that for a second. When has mainstream Western media coverage of the situation, ever openly broad cast that 80% of these people coming in to Europe are men?

They haven't. It's kept on the low down. They show only what they want you to see, which, are the children and family's making the journey.

The minority, compared to the amount of single young men.

The media are masters, at tugging on the heart strings of the gullible.


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Edited by Bubbles85 (01/16/16 08:41 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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When i google new articles on immigrant gender I find nothing that supports your claim from my countries media at least. Do you have and example of media that lies about this?

We have a lot of immigrants in Europe, everyone sees them every day. Even the media is not stupid enough to try to lie about such a thing.
That didn't sound right, media is actually dumb enough to try such a thing. But I still haven't seen it in media.

The closest thing I found was an article saying the the quota women & children / men has increased during December 2015.

Most articles about gender seem to say stuff like "This is why most immigrants are men".

Media here is actually very hostile towards immigrants and Muslims. A lot of the unjustified hate towards the groups are increased because of media. There are extreme Left media as well, but the mainstream media is not Left at all when it comes to immigration etc.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
Bubbles85 said: There not helpless women and children, like the media would have every one believe.



What?
I don't know what media your listening to, but I'v never ever seen anything in the media from my country or any other country that suggest the refugees are mostly helpless women and children. Furthermore I just have to go outside for 5 minutes to see at least 10-20 refugees. I know they are mostly men. Everyone who lives in a country with a lot of refugees knows this...

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qman said:
They're coming from Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Northern Africa, Iran, ect. and also Syria.

They are taking advantage of a chaotic situation and claiming to be fleeing from Syria, most are lying.

Living on welfare in Germany is 100 times better than living in the shitholes that came from in the first place.


"most are lying".
And I'm supposed to take your word for it? YOU are mostly lying....
There are a lot of refugees and the amount will increase due to climate issues, like desertification. Even if your lies would be correct, the issue with actual refugees fleeing to survive would still be the reality soon. And the people coming here would be the same people with the same culture. What to do then?

What do you base this "most" on? Some sort of evidence? Personal experience with immigrants? No?

Yes, some are from iraq:
Bombings during Iraq War
Terrorist incidents in Iraq 2014
Damn shitty place to live.

I do not have a strong connection to my country. I'm far from a patriot. I support my country with taxes and I an very happy doing this, every citizen should take his part in the society. But I do not have an emotional bond with my country. If my country would be bombed and turned into a war zone because of some bullshit reasons like oil, I would not stand and fight. My life is more important than my country. The west have been attacking and bombing in the middle east for a long time. The conflicts sometimes does not even concern the people living in that area. Be it oil-issues or retaliation on terror organizations. Either way, after living in fear of being bombed by either USA or Daesh or whoever, after a while I would guess they had enough and would rather focus on surviving than fighting to their deaths for someone else's cause.

Your saying that their only choice in this is to join the west and hunt for terrorists, otherwise they are bad people who shouldn't be allowed to flee for their lives? Fight or die?



"were Syrian 49%"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis

They're coming from all over.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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"Joining the west" means joining the terrorists, not hunting them.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
They're coming from all over.


Who ever claimed something else?

Shins said:
"Joining the west" means joining the terrorists, not hunting them.


For me "the west" is the west part of Europe as a contrast to the middle EAST. What is your west? :laugh:

Next time I'll write Western world or something so nothing is misunderstood.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
When i google new articles on immigrant gender I find nothing that supports your claim from my countries media at least. Do you have and example of media that lies about this?

We have a lot of immigrants in Europe, everyone sees them every day. Even the media is not stupid enough to try to lie about such a thing.
That didn't sound right, media is actually dumb enough to try such a thing. But I still haven't seen it in media.

The closest thing I found was an article saying the the quota women & children / men has increased during December 2015.

Most articles about gender seem to say stuff like "This is why most immigrants are men".

Media here is actually very hostile towards immigrants and Muslims. A lot of the unjustified hate towards the groups are increased because of media. There are extreme Left media as well, but the mainstream media is not Left at all when it comes to immigration etc.


It's not necessarily a lie, its just with holding information.
Every time I put the news on in the UK (BBC for example) and this comes up, the only people that are ever shown, or spoken to, by the reporters, are the family's with young children.

Its media propoganda, to try to make the over all population fall into a false sense of belief, that these are the only people making this trip.

I don't know what's shown in Sweden, but this is a fact in England.

I would say, that the large majority of people in any country, only get there out side info and beliefs from mainstream "prime time" media coverage, like the news shown on TV and they consistently fail to show people the truth, surrounding the statistics.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
"Joining the west" means joining the terrorists, not hunting them.


that's kinda conflating the facts.

everyone's government is potential terrorists. everyone's nation's people, (new communist party?) can be considered a terrorist, in a different light.

point is: "the west" stands for freedom, multiculturalism, the future...the people here, and people in democratic society, are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters. it's the governments not kept in check, with people behind the scenes, whom are the terrorists; doing things the people cannot fight them on, lest with a complete take over.

you could say the same thing for ANY country...west & east.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 3
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Bubbles85 said:
Cultural diversity's a scam. A fabricated phenomenon, used by the political elite to halt any objection toward there will.


Huh? This is just about the dumbest thing I've read in days. Cultural diversity is real, bruh!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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he read some conspiracy nutter and now he thinks the last century has been a lead up to some kind of doom and disaster. now there's refugees so he's like :omg: "doom!1"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Bubbles85 said:
Cultural diversity's a scam. A fabricated phenomenon, used by the political elite to halt any objection toward there will.


Huh? This is just about the dumbest thing I've read in days. Cultural diversity is real, bruh!


Cultural diversity or "multiculturalism" is a forced phenomenon that has happened with out vote for, or against it. Multiculturalism is a fabricated term, used by the political establishment to try to justify and at the same time, halt objection to there failed concept, of importing millions of foreigners into the West.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

This is because most employees today are paid FAR less than they're worth to a company.


Yup.

Personally I endorse a Total Asset Cap, at about 5 million dollars.



I like this idea of yours very much.  Can you go into greater details and tell us how it would work?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
he read some conspiracy nutter and now he thinks the last century has been a lead up to some kind of doom and disaster. now there's refugees so he's like :omg: "doom!1"


I guess your referring to my posts regarding Richard Coudenhove Kalergi? Hardly a conspiracy. The idiot was the founder of the European Union. His guiding principals of European Integration, are what the EU is founded on.

They award a prize to the political leaders of the EU every two years, who have excelled in promoting his ideas of European integration, known as the "Coudenhove Kalergi prize"

I believe Angela Merkel is a recent winner "no surprises there" with her open door immigration policy.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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no.

let me tell you what really happened. you (how do you not know this?) posted a blog or news article (whichever) and it was ABOUT Richard Coudenhove Kalergi -- and i presume the guy (whom wrote the article) was as conspiracy nutter considering his article was bullshit.

European integration is merely the attempt to govern at a level and body that integrates the continent; in a way to incorporate as the USA has done.

that's it. no "hostile takeover"; just a sharing of controls, and policies, and debates.

but the idiot framed it as "takeover" because he, and others, want to play on your fears about brown people...seriously.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
no.

let me tell you what really happened. you (how do you not know this?) posted a blog or news article (whichever) and it was ABOUT Richard Coudenhove Kalergi -- and i presume the guy (whom wrote the article) was as conspiracy nutter considering his article was bullshit.

European integration is merely the attempt to govern at a level and body that integrates the continent; in a way to incorporate as the USA has done.

that's it. no "hostile takeover"; just a sharing of controls, and policies, and debates.

but the idiot framed it as "takeover" because he, and others, want to play on your fears about brown people...seriously.


I never claimed to believe that article. Its was posted in an illuminati thread FFS. If you look back at the thread i even said first hand that what the dude was saying was a conspiracy theory.

Maybe you should do some research into Kalergi you're self because you clearly don't know what the fuck your talking about


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Immigrants overwhelmingly vote democrat.  Enough said.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
I never claimed to believe that article. Its was posted in an illuminati thread FFS. If you look back at the thread i even said first hand that what the dude was saying was a conspiracy theory.

Maybe you should do some research into Kalergi you're self because you clearly don't know what the fuck your talking about


whoa, doublespeak. nice.

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