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Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal
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It will be interesting to see how they try to lie themselves out of this one.

AP Exclusive: UN to let Iran inspect alleged nuke work site

EDIT: Forgot the article
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a9f4e40803924a8ab4c61cb65b2b2bb3/ap-exclusive-un-let-iran-inspect-alleged-nuke-work-site

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VIENNA (AP) — Iran will be allowed to use its own inspectors to investigate a site it has been accused of using to develop nuclear arms, operating under a secret agreement with the U.N. agency that normally carries out such work, according to a document seen by The Associated Press.

The revelation on Wednesday newly riled Republican lawmakers in the U.S. who have been severely critical of a broader agreement to limit Iran's future nuclear programs, signed by the Obama administration, Iran and five world powers in July. Those critics have complained that the wider deal is unwisely built on trust of the Iranians, while the administration has insisted it depends on reliable inspections.



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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Astral Pain]
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Does the only country in history to use nuclear weapons invite over weapons inspectors or make efforts of reducing their nuclear arms? Does the only country in the Middle East in possession of illegal nuclear weapons allow inspectors in or acknowledge their existence? Pot, kettle, black. I know what you're getting at and as big of a wet dream it would be for Jews and Christians for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and use them, it is unlikely the mullahs have a death wish and are suicidal. It is well documented the US engaged in espionage in Iraq under UN cover during weapons inspections in the 90's. Why would it be any different this time for Iran?

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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: bukkake]
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There's the Start Treaty between the US and Russia, and I believe Russia inspects the US 18 times a year on their nukes under this agreement. The main point of this Iran deal was to insure they would not be creating weapons with there nuclear programs. They were selling the deal by assuring strict inspections, and this was far from the truth when the details of the deal came out, and even further now when details of the suspected secret side deals were revealed. The new details are the icing on the cake as far as this deal being a total lie from what it was purported to be from it's very onset.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Astral Pain]
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Nah.

Most popular Israeli newspaper: http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.672049

I see Michelle Malkin and the gang love the shit about Iran having complete autonomy to inspect its own nuclear sites. It will be predictably a talking point for a couple weeks or months no matter how far from reality it is. Clinically insane Republican politicians love the story too. It's their meal tickets to encourage war and destabilization in the world, after all.

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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: bukkake]
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Sounds intentionally inflammatory to me, especially on the eve of the Congressional vote.

Honestly what the fuck is Iran gonna do with a nuke anyway?


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: bukkake]
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So the UN is satisfied with the verification agreement. That means nothing and hardly builds a case against this debacle of a nuke deal.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Astral Pain]
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The Ecstatic said:
Honestly what the fuck is Iran gonna do with a nuke anyway?


Nothing. Reasonably only be used as a deterrent after what happened to their neighbors to the East and West. They aren't pursuing a nuclear weapons program but supposing they were and used a nuke, there wouldn't be a structure or person in the country standing after retaliatory strikes from Israel.

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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: bukkake]
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bukkake said:
The Ecstatic said:
Honestly what the fuck is Iran gonna do with a nuke anyway?


Nothing. Reasonably only be used as a deterrent after what happened to their neighbors to the East and West. They aren't pursuing a nuclear weapons program but supposing they were and used a nuke, there wouldn't be a structure or person in the country standing after retaliatory strikes from Israel.


Exactly.

The much bigger threat to the region is Israel's nukes and their suicide bomber-esque nuclear strike plan.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: bukkake]
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bukkake said:
Does the only country in history to use nuclear weapons invite over weapons inspectors or make efforts of reducing their nuclear arms? Does the only country in the Middle East in possession of illegal nuclear weapons allow inspectors in or acknowledge their existence? Pot, kettle, black. I know what you're getting at and as big of a wet dream it would be for Jews and Christians for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and use them, it is unlikely the mullahs have a death wish and are suicidal. It is well documented the US engaged in espionage in Iraq under UN cover during weapons inspections in the 90's. Why would it be any different this time for Iran?


Exactly right. People have been fed so much propaganda their whole lives that they believe it now. Iran is supposed to be some genocidal insane country that only wants to destroy isreal. All that based on what one politician said. What about Reagan saying he was going to bomb Russia? What about all the whacky things our politicians say and keep saying?

We need to calm the fuck down and stop with this rabid war talk. USA is the biggest warmonger right now in the world and I do not trust obumble with the button.

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>I believe Russia inspects the US 18 times a year on their nukes under this agreement

And we inspect their stuff. Iran does not get the same reciprocity.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Stonehenge]
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I was posting about another point of the deal that adds to the endless lies they are spouting out, and what pisses me off is the fact that John Kerry is being talked up for a Nobel Peace Prize for this joke of a so-called deal. I said nothing about what they would or wouldn't do with weaponized nukes, but the additional lie in a deal propping up Obama's legacy and Kerry's potential NPP. It's a joke.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Astral Pain]
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Sir do you have drugs on you?
- Hold on, let me inspect myself........ No I don't, sorry

You have a great day now.
- Thank Officer, you too.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Patlal]
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That's about it, and the fact that this is being pushed as something that would earn watermelon head Kerry a Nobel Peace prize is angering as hell. It can't even be considered a deal considering we got nothing in return while having prisoners in Iran as we speak that didn't get released. It' mind boggling to say the least.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Astral Pain]
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> but the additional lie in a deal propping up Obama's legacy and Kerry's potential NPP. It's a joke.

A joke on obumble, he is the author.

>the fact that this is being pushed as something that would earn watermelon head Kerry a Nobel Peace prize is angering as hell

Almost as bad as the one they gave obumble.

> It can't even be considered a deal considering we got nothing in return while having prisoners in Iran as we speak that didn't get released. It' mind boggling to say the least.

You have a point. We should have gotten some prisoners back at least as a good faith measure. You have to talk to the un about the inspection thing, they signed off on it. Obumble's legacy is unraveling before his eyes. 8 years of incompetence does not yield much of substance so far. I'm hoping president trump gets that thrown out and something better put in its place. By then we will see what good the iran deal did if any. Iran has never invaded another country, don't forget that. Which is more than we and our allies can say.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Stonehenge]
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His legacy is based off of things that are failures to those of us that know the truth, but they are being reported as triumphs by the media which is gospel to the low information crowd. This so-called deal should not have even been discussed without the release of those prisoners. Only time will tell what happens regarding weaponization of nukes, but on a good note all the Iranian kids will be able to buy iphones and other goodies with the sanctions lifted.


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Re: Iran will inspect themselves according to secret side deal [Re: Astral Pain]
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>His legacy is based off of things that are failures to those of us that know the truth, but they are being reported as triumphs by the media which is gospel to the low information crowd.

Well said.


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