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Learning chemistry as an adult * 2
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Ive always had an interest in science, but beyond chem101 in high school i havent done anything with it. I read about the synthesis of drugs and the extraction techniques of various substances, and alot of it makes sense.

However i dont know anythinf about chemistry. I see pictures on the internet of molecules woth rings in different places and hear all this talk of things i cant even begin to comprehend and it upsets me.

Where do i start to learn chemistry? I want to go to the community college, but it seems like for a class like that you have to be fully enrolled as a student.

Does anyone have any pointers on how to get started toward a solid understanding of chemistry?


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: JvF]
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I see pictures on the internet of molecules woth rings in different places and hear all this talk of things i cant even begin to comprehend and it upsets me.


knowing the structure of drugs and their pharmacological effects is alot easier to learn than it seems

i know nothing about actual chemistry, i couldnt even make some dirty highschool-lab aspirin. but i can tell you the difference between aspirin and acetaminophen


it all depends on what you wanna know, and how well you want to know it. there are alot of different aspects of chemistry. ive only bothered learning about drugs really.
i have some good sources for info if you wanna learn about the basic pharmacology of most psychoactive drugs

http://biopsychiatry.com/

thats a great website that will explain pretty much every class of psychoactive drug, it is riddled with legitimate references, just click the blue words

Skip to "SOME DEAD ENDS" section if you want to get to the nitty gritty



not sure if that's what you're looking for though

Edited by Adolin (05/18/15 01:16 AM)

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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Adolin] * 1
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it's literally impossible to learn anything after you become an adult


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: JvF]
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Start with organic chemistry. I was recommended this book years ago:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Organic-Chemistry-Jonathan-Clayden/dp/0199270295/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431933406&sr=8-1&keywords=organic+chemistry

I was intending to learn chemistry but due to circumstances, I haven't got around to it yet. It's a dream of mine, just imagine being to synth substances.


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: daz01]
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um he should probably start with general chem first. He needs to know the basics. The different kinds of bonds and valence are crucial in understanding orgo


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Chemistry textbooks would probably be helpful


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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Posting for later reference.

:lookslucrative:

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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Shroomopotamus said:
it's literally impossible to learn anything after you become an adult


There's some depressingly poignant point to that statement.  The rubber band gets brittle and breaks doesnt it.


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Shroomopotamus said:
it's literally impossible to learn anything after you become an adult


I'd say harder but not impossible. You might have to put a little more effort into it since you're out of a school setting


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: JvF]
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I decided to go back to school and my major is chemistry.  Go to a community college, if you are poor its pretty much free.  If you are too lazy just download a textbook off pirate bay.  Just read it and do all the problems, you can download tests online to apply what you are learning.  Its a lot of reading though, I don't think most people have the discipline to read an entire chemistry book without going to school.

You need to know college algebra though, I would suggest learning that first.


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: fapjack]
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Yeah if you don't have a decent math background you're definitely gonna have a hard time. And you'll need calculus for physical and analytical chemistry if you're interested in that


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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If you already have the basic chemistry concepts down, for eg. valence electrons, types of bonding, acids/bases, molecular structures...,

I would recommend this book for learning organic chemistry:
http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Chemistry-Second-Language-Translating/dp/0470129298

It saved me when I had an incompetent prof for Org Chem 1. It starts off basic, it provides practice problems for every new concept, and its small and paperback.

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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: 1234go]
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1234go said:
Posting for later reference.

:lookslucrative:



:whathesaid:  :atom:


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: shroomnymph]
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shroomnymph said:
If you already have the basic chemistry concepts down, for eg. valence electrons, types of bonding, acids/bases, molecular structures...,

I would recommend this book for learning organic chemistry:
http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Chemistry-Second-Language-Translating/dp/0470129298

It saved me when I had an incompetent prof for Org Chem 1. It starts off basic, it provides practice problems for every new concept, and its small and paperback.


THIS.

That book is amazing and is the only reason I managed to get a B in o chem


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Check this site out to get online access to past courses and their material.

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: Bambi]
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Thanks for the sources everyone.

Definitely dont have basic chemistry knowledge as far as valence electrons and bonds/things of that nature. Once i was into my second week of the class and i had to memorize the periodic table i pretty much zoned everything out.

As simple as it is, never thought of buying textbooks.

Luckily i already have a fantastic grasp of calculus(didnt know that came into play), so that should help me later on.

Im pretty dedicated to learning whatever i need to. Like i said in the first post, i hate not knowing something so basic


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Re: Learning chemistry as an adult [Re: JvF]
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I just got my B.S. in Chemistry, if you want to get into "practical" chemistry start by learning about units of concentration and how to do dilutions.

Then look into specific solvents, learn about Dichloromethane, acetone, toluene/xylene, isopropyl and ethyl alcohol, ether and... water. Just to make yourself more familiar with common useful chemicals.

Then start with pH stuff, figure out what the difference between Lewis, Bronstead acid/base this'll become your foundation into oxidation/reduction chemistry. Look into Muratic Acid and NaOH, read up on aqua regia and different acids too; just to get some practical knowledge. Learn about trends across the periodic table (nucleus size, electronegativity) learn what and where each block of the periodic table is (s,p,d,f).

I assume you're interested in organic extractions and synthesizes. You can get on the inter webs and try to follow a receipe and probably succeed. Personally I'd start with extracting caffeine from tea, a common College Organic Chem lab is synthesis of Tylenol you could practice that if you wanted to build up you chemical experience.

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