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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: Asante]
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3.466666666666667
Looks like I would fit in US.

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: Asante]
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Burke, Koods, and myself are the "others" when you say, "among others," huh? :lol:

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Im clearly the leading psychopath around these parts.

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: BreathlessVision]
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You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 92.65% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 98.48% of people who have taken this test.


I don't really need some random internet test to tell me I'm a psychopath though.. I already know I am. The only thing that keeps me from thinking I'm a sociopath is I have some level of empathy (though not much) for other people. I purposely manipulate people into doing what I want them to do though, and I am very good at it.

If I had the confidence, I'd make one hell of a car salesman.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

Edited by Shroomslip (12/05/14 07:49 PM)

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Y'all's cuckoo as fuck.


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ShiVersblood said:
shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: sun_spots] * 1
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To be fair, one can have every biological and neurological precursor to psychopathy without being a terrible person. 

Such is the exact scenario that neuroscientist James Fallon found himself in.

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Wow, that's pretty wild.  I can't say I'm totally surprised, though.  I believe there's a strong correlation between intelligence and psychopathy.  In that sense, I prefer people with a psychopathic bent in a lot of cases because they tend to be more intelligent imo.


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ShiVersblood said:
shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: sun_spots]
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I have a similar working theory.  I have sort of a third category beyond primary and secondary in my theory, prosocial.  In my mind there is correlation between primary and intellect, as well as prosocial and intellect.  The former are cunning people who work on sheer logic, and the latter are well-meaning people who have are genealogical anomalies and also work on a purely logical basis as the capacity for emotional and empathetic rationale are beyond them, thus time is not spend thinking in those regards.  The secondary class, the hotheads as it were, tend to be dumb as rocks and just real angry and boisterous people.

Yeah, I went through that period in my teens where I was interested by this phenomena, but when I'm interested in something I go full aspie on it and really delve in. :lol: This is also why I prod Enlil when I get the chance, it's fun to see where it goes.

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Cutless said:
To be fair, one can have every biological and neurological precursor to psychopathy without being a terrible person. 

Such is the exact scenario that neuroscientist James Fallon found himself in.





:orly:  He's not?

He's a lifetime terrible person who fakes being nice in his latter years. Selfish in all things and holding grudges against people for years then collapsing their lives in retaliation with them wondering what happened and why.

Don't you see a predator in that?



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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: Asante] * 2
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I see behavior like that all day, everyday, actually.  The only difference I see here is that he's admitting it on camera and working on it.  He's not even doing it for his own gains, there is nothing to gain in his opinion.  It's pretty fun to me that you of all people, Mr. OpenMinded-ReligionIsaRealThingAndGodTalksToMeThroughDrugs, are judging another person for trying to change an engrained behavior after 60 years of not realizing he was doing it.  When you meet someone you perceive to be an asshole, do you talk feelings and opinions with them, or go for cheap laughs and avoid pissing them off.  Obviously the latter, and that's precisely what he experienced during his life, making him completely unaware that other people's relationships were different or that his behavior was in any way odd or off-putting.  What you're showing is that preconceptions about certain topics are able to bias your opinion.  I mean really, how do you expect someone with no activity in their prefrontal cortex and amygdala to realize that such is the case, and that it's altering their behavior, even though no one is pointing that fact out beyond a passive aggressive joke that blows right off of him?

*Edited for clarity

Edited by SOLID BASTARD (12/06/14 01:55 PM)

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Re: How psycho are you? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Cutless said:
To be fair, one can have every biological and neurological precursor to psychopathy without being a terrible person. 

Such is the exact scenario that neuroscientist James Fallon found himself in.





:orly:  He's not?

He's a lifetime terrible person who fakes being nice in his latter years. Selfish in all things and holding grudges against people for years then collapsing their lives in retaliation with them wondering what happened and why.

Don't you see a predator in that?






Have seen a number of his talks over the years; one of the very first talks he gave after his diagnosis was actually what tipped me off that there may be a similar problem with my own brain.
He talks a lot about how psychopaths brains develop in a different manner from normal brains, with certain areas of the brain being overdeveloped or damaged and promoting or inhibiting certain behavioural responses.

The thing that always caught me is that he is now working on improving his actions towards others even though he does not make an emotional connection with those actions.  That approach was really inspiring to me, because it helped me realize that even being broken it is possible to help others.

Reflected on how even in my childhood my connections with friends and family members never seemed to be completely there.
When people who are important in my life die, the event never really seems to impact me.  Everyone around me is upset and crying but my emotional state basically comes down to "oh okay, they are no longer here." 
When my mother's mother passed away several years ago, I was never able to emotionally comfort my mother in her grieving; even though my grandmother helped raise me from birth, my mother was upset and breaking down and I was unable to really do anything to mitigate that out of a complete lack of comprehension of what she was feeling and how to help people with feelings of loss and grief.
Emotional connections feel really incomplete in my life, and at times that is frustrating to me, due to intellectually comprehending the importance of interpersonal connections, but seemingly never being able to actually make them myself.

The issue with not being able to be in touch with emotional connections to others is that it makes it very difficult to empathize with the pain of others.
Have developed the observational tools to be able to notice certain social cues which indicate when someone is upset or in need of assistance.  Do not feel emotionally present in response to those cues, but do make the effort to help the person with what he or she is feeling.

Even without feeling things like regret over enacting revenge over personal slights, it has become possible to intellectually comprehend the detrimental effect such actions can have on others and keep myself from doing such.

When my grandfather recently passed away it was the first funeral I had made a concentrated effort to go to rather than skip; normally events like funerals feel trivial to me in an inner manner, so it becomes incredibly difficult to motivate myself to their attendance.  It felt really important and as a large step for me, because my grandfather was a very important and formative figure in my life, even though I am still unable to really feel a sense of loss over his death.
This time, for the first time, I attended the funeral; I hugged all my relatives and friends of the family; I gave them space to grieve and offered a listening ear and sympathy for their tears.
At no point did I feel able to emotionally connect to their pain, but they expressed their appreciation for my presence and my listening.

Personally am rather thankful for his predatory past encouraging him to share his story over the years; it impacted me in a meaningful way that has allowed me to be more supportive of those daring enough to risk being around a psychopath and to comprehend the importance and value of their emotional states.


Think that psychopaths can make meaningful contribution to societies, and rather than the intense stigma around the word we need better support mechanisms that promote more positive behaviour. 
Even though anything nice I do for others is admittedly fake, they still appreciate it, and I have been able to get to a space where I fake those nice things because it benefits others rather than it benefiting myself.  The powerful thing about it is that even if it is "fake-nice" on my end, it is received as genuinely nice on the other end and generates actual benefit and gratitude.  Intellectually I have learned how to do things for others, and even if it does not come from the bottom of my heart like it may for a normal person, it still has a positive impact.
As someone who is quite likely this way due to the development of my brain directly inhibiting my ability to make these sorts of connections, faking it until I get it right may be the only way I ever get it right.

"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.  If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Because I'm never going to manage to get it right unless I repeatedly just keep practicing.

Edited by Tantrika (12/06/14 02:17 PM)

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