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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Peace of Mind 1] * 4
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peace of mind 1 said:
Sounds like a conceited bitch who thinks she's worthy of being stalked. I would have told her not to flatter herself, "if I was going to stalk someone, it'd be someone attractive."

I've always been a little annoyed at those "certain" Woman who feel as though they are at large risk of getting raped or kidnapped or whatever else, as if they think they are so great and desired by many. Don't get me wrong, a lot of men are pigs and will rape anything with a vagina, I'm aware of this.

This chick you speak of though, seems like one of those, "OH MY GAWD THIS GUY WAS LYKE TOTALLY STALKING ME IT WAS LYKE SOOO CREEPY OH MY GAWD!"

Tell her she's too ugly to stalk, then she'll probably be watching and waiting for you to follow her every day. :ilold:


I think OP should get a picture of the girl and show us. Maybe wait outside her apartment with a telephoto lens or something.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Chicks in places like that can be scary. I got ripped off by a girl with a concussion once for being trusting and nice, and she didn't even seem that crazy. I had to learn better ghetto people skills after that. I was content with being threatened by homeless girls and seeing domestic violence all the time and stuff, but getting ripped off because I cashed a check for a girl who was running away from an abusive BF with her kid late at night... That made me feel bad. I even tried to chase her down to give her some Tylenol, make sure she was alright, and offer her a lift when I realized she didn't have a ride to the train station. I didn't even see it coming until I saw that the check bounced.

The cops were really cool there though. They always had real problems to deal with, and they were always polite and respectful, and they appreciated it when people acted that way too.


The cop knew I told him the truth. He said I have something for you. I was like fuck handcuffs for sure. And he gave my beer back. I would never follow any girl I'm a talker i don't need to stalk. From the store to my house I didn't see her once. She stalked me. Creepy.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: koods]
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Enjoywho said:
Where do you draw the line? Now I don't even want to walk down the street I walk down every day. To the store for assorted beverages, beer, and they sell my favorite soup. Plus work is that way. If she just happens to be out when I'm walking I already got complained on for no reason. Shit could ruin my life and I literally saw her twice and Continued my walk. They always take the woman's side.


It's bullshit, I agree. Maybe she should take a different route or stop complaining. Absolute bullshit.

koods said:
I think OP should get a picture of the girl and show us. Maybe wait outside her apartment with a telephoto lens or something.


I am willing to bet she's an ugly chick who wears tons of makeup and slutty clothes in the hopes that guys will stalk her, so that she can complain when it happens.

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: ShootinD5nukes] * 1
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sorry for the monster wall of text, I need to vent a little on this issue of stalker behavior and being followed even though OP is obviously the dude who was wronged and followed here, so please don't assume any of this is implying that men aren't victimized because I feel very strongly that men who are victimized by women who stalk, rape, or assault them are written off way too much.


my friend's relationship has slowly been evolving into extreme possession and stalker esque behavior and jealousy, she and I recently realized that he had effectively alienated her from most of her close friends of many years except for me - he's been hurt really badly before and is really just trying to protect himself and was such a good amazing person at first,  and I tried really hard to be as objective as possible because him and I grew to be friends, but shit has started getting out of hand and I was reading through a bunch of articles about behavorial symptoms of a stalker or potentially dangerous relationship and I am fucking astonished I haven't spoken up sooner. She's about had it too and realizes if he doesn't make a solid commitment towards trying to improve that it's pretty much shot. I have always been very honest and tried to see both sides, but I am always hesitant to tell someone to break it off but I honestly feel kind of guilty I haven't sat her down and read all of this shit :

http://www.scu.edu/wellness/topics/relationships/warningsigns.cfm

and gone down the list with her, and directly confront the blatant emotional abuse, stalking and control issues. It's amazing how fast and how much he changed this year from the person I first got to know when they began seeing each other. I almost feel terrible for him, because he cares for her and is not this evil sadistic monster, but he's going through some turmoil himself and is probably ultra depressed in general in addition to all the other shit..but damn, I cannot deny what's going on any longer and it's definitely time for me to speak up to her about it.


sorry to hijack your thread dude, I'm just vaguely venting about similar shit from the opposite side of the spectrum that's been weighing on my mind. I have been aggressively
pursued on foot by two really vocal and scary drunk dudes at night - my place was literally like 300 feet away and I was trying really hard to hustle without breaking into a full on sprint until I got to my building steps, because I thought that if I started to run, it might provoke them to really chase me down and they'd probably catch up pretty fast at the rate we were going. They followed me from work(a bar in a fringy/gentrifying neighorhood in a city with a crime problem for reference), and were pissed off because I ignored the original drunken catcall and a request for cigarettes that I did not have - and it just kind of escalated. I don't normally assume everyone is out to get me, but when stuff like that happens on otherwise deserted city streets at 3am after I'd already been robbed at gun point, fuck that. I'm digressing, but my point is that literally every single women you know has experienced that fear that maybe the dude walking behind you late at night is after you - we're literally conditioned to fear situations like walking alone after dark, leaving our drinks unattended.
Yes, it's true that most guys are disgusted by the very thought of stalking/raping/hurting a random person but it's really not worth it to abandon your sense of caution for a random stranger who might feel a little insulted to be lumped into that category. It's not that lone women walking home late at night assume you're a creep, it's that lone woman walking home alone at night are taught that they simply can't afford to assume you're not a creep.



That being said, I think it's fucked you got the police called on you for stalking when you were literally the one who was stalked.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
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Nah she was probably high school. I remember looking over and she was talking to someone in a car I dunno a minute into my journey. In my head I was like huh she's cute. Then I continued on. I do that with every girl I encounter. As all guys do.

I followed the exact same route and it was nice and I was sandaled up. Just enjoying the sun and the trees. This is all just ridiculously crazy. I never saw her once on the way back I got stalked honestly.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Bitches be trippin :shrug:

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: pirate-blues]
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I experienced all of those, except 8 and 13, over the course of the past 5 years from a woman.

That being said, in the end, I started to take on some of those toxic traits as well, which is totally not me.

Hopefully I can get back to a person that I used to be proud of.

/rant

Thanks for the link :thumbup:


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Masked]
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no problemo - it's good to here you got out of that - I'm sure you'll be returned to your former glory - at some point I think we all digress and lose sight of who we really are for many many reasons, either you get to the point where you realize you cannot tolerate who you have become and confront it head on or you become a shadow of yourself. I am going through the same realizations and efforts with depression and all that junk and I'm sick of this version of me.

and yes, she definitely got much much angrier and irritable but we're at the point where we can call each other out on the reality of the situation and metaphorically bitch slap the other one back to reality, it's too complicated to get into, but it's startling to see how much they've both changed - she's mainly altered her(pretty normal young adult)lifestyle to try and appease the sudden demands but he did a complete 180 and I guess everyone has pretty much been denying the obvious.

I have put up with some shit in relationships before but there is no way anyone clingy or possessive or excessively needy would last 48 hours with me without losing their mind. I just shut off completely if I feel smothered, the more someone calls me repeatedly and constantly over and over again the more I feel like continuing to ignore them.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: pirate-blues]
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Dude that literally has nothing to do with my story. What are you talking about?


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
Dude that literally has nothing to do with my story. What are you talking about?




not really talking, venting.




ok i took amphetamines


no but today was a particularly stressful day of a friend's escalating situation that involves actual stalking and all that stuff and now, so I'm just pissed. and on stimulants.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Shhh... let the girls talk about themselves. :rolleyes:

Hahaha no pirate I'm totally kidding I promise.

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
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:sip:


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
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Bitches OP...bitches...


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
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nooo i was just trying to offer a different point of view, because I've met a lot of guys that are surprised to know that women are pretty much taught to constantly feel afraid walking alone at night and there's kind of a weird sense of camraderie - where the vast majority of women are heckled, followed, or feel excessively threatened very, very often. I've also heard guys say they've observed girls visibly getting scared that they were walking the same way no matter what they try to seem less 'threatening', if you're a lone guy walking down a street at night and theirs a lone girl walking ahead of you then she is 100% tuned into that fact and extra cautious of you by default and you have probably unknowingly and unintentionally scared the shit out of some girl who was in actuality, in no danger.

This girl was kind of just a cunt, obviously and really has nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make because she decided to follow OP home herself, but..you know..it's a mildly relevant segue.

...the above part was just a vent.
my fingers are typing faster than my brain, sry.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: pirate-blues]
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p-b on amps, this will be fun.
:lol:


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: something super extreme]
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the whole reason I took them was to try and devote several hours to cleaning , but I probably should've stuck to a nice low therapeutic dose because so far I have done literally everything there is to do in this universe but clean :rolleyes:


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: pirate-blues]
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That's how it always goes. :rofl:

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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: pirate-blues]
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Hahaha. That's awesome.
I only use them to make my insomnia more manageable. I'm naturally motivated to clean everything religiously.

Now write more rambling amp posts for me. They amuse me while I waste time being a nonproductive employee.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: something super extreme]
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I am not dancing monkey, and I have cleaning business to take care of, you ass.
:peyotezen:



so i'll bbl.


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Re: I just got accused of stalking. [Re: pirate-blues]
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Of course you're not a dancing monkey. You're a posting pirate. :lol:

Go clean your house, you slob.


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