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Offlinesoko
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Bad perlite?
    #2009462 - 10/14/03 09:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Every time I use perlite my cakes just sit there and abort over and over and over (3 attempts, 12 cakes total). Getting upset how I can get my cakes but can't get fruits, I took one out and put it in a tupperware by itself with no perlite, no water, and it aborted for like a week, then after a ton of the water evaporated off the cake by droplets on the sides of the tupperware it started to fruit normally while my 4 cakes in a 20 gallon rubbermaid terrarium are still pinning and aborting since they've been in there for a month. Both containers are at the same temp, I fan them at the same time, same light schedule and there is no water sitting at the bottom of the perlite in the rubbermaid. Why does perlite suck for me?


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Re: Bad perlite? [Re: soko]
    #2009487 - 10/14/03 10:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

how is the humidity in the terrarium, do you have good condensation on the walls? there should normally be some water (just a bit) standing in the bottom of the perlite. i have found that if the humidity is to low that the mushroom don't have good moisture and tend to be really small.

hard to isolate the cause based on that info, for me at least. maybe someone else will know.


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Re: Bad perlite? [Re: jumpship]
    #2009508 - 10/14/03 10:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Arent aborts caused by CO2 build up?


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Re: Bad perlite? [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2009515 - 10/14/03 10:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Jumpship there was a TON of humidity in there for awhile, droplets were forming on the top of the container and dripping down, at that point I took the cakes out and drained the perlite and replaced them only to see after 2 weeks that it didn't make a difference.

Chopperdave: I did think co2 buildup was a problem but it's strange because I have 4 cakes in a container 10x bigger than the tupperware with 1 cake in, 10x bigger you would think 10x more o2 in there and the tupperware would run out first? but nope the tupperware is the only one fruiting.


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Re: Bad perlite? [Re: soko]
    #2009533 - 10/14/03 10:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

How many times a day are you fanning? I dont think perlite is your problem here.


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Re: Bad perlite? [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2009598 - 10/14/03 10:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

chopper may have correctly diagnosed your prob. the thing is that the size of the terr. would not matter as Co2 would sink to the bottom and fanning is the best way to fix that. provided that you have no other way of air exchange.

fan, fan, and then fan some more. 3 to 5 times a day would not hurt.


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Re: Bad perlite? [Re: jumpship]
    #2009618 - 10/14/03 10:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Too much CO2 would make small caps and skinny stems. If not, might there be contaminants (like Lysol) in the environment? This can cause aborts. If the humidity is too low you should see white mycelium (or patches) growing off the caps.

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