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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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XLCaps said:
luvdemshrooms said:
I've asked a question. Your responses make it clear you either can't or won't answer.

You have failed here.


When you get out of high school, I would be glad to continue this conversation.
Until then, let this adult be since clearly between the two of us I'm the only one with enough reading comprehension.


Dude you haven't answered his question your the one behaving like a child here.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
XLCaps said:
luvdemshrooms said:
I've asked a question. Your responses make it clear you either can't or won't answer.

You have failed here.


When you get out of high school, I would be glad to continue this conversation.
Until then, let this adult be since clearly between the two of us I'm the only one with enough reading comprehension.


Dude you haven't answered his question your the one behaving like a child here.


I did answer the god damned question. Fuck off.

I'm not going to apologize for not giving the answer you want.

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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Such hostility lol I think its disgusting when tenants think they can run roushshod over the person who owns the property.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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He asked why it's fair, I said why it's fair, how fucking hard to understand is that?

Or do I need to fill in all the comprehension gaps and write an essay?

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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Just because... is not an answer.

You still haven't.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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Its really not fair tenant and landlord contracts should favor the property owner the tenant is renting a space that DOES NOT belong to him/her.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Of course it's not fair. To the point where some not only can't answer, but resort to insults when they fail.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Yea I saw that he behaved like a child who has had his arguement demolished.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 1
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It only required asking the question that he wouldn't or couldn't answer.

Society has imbued so many with a sense of entitlement that rational questions are offensive to some.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (05/31/14 10:41 AM)

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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Prisoner#1 said:
LunarEclipse said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Yeah, the "logic" of some people boggles my mind.

Government tells you (rightly IMO) that your place must meet certain standards. Any decent landlord that wants to attract good tenants will already do just that. Now after mandating these standards those same governmental officials (and tenants) wish to tell you that you should invest money and take the risks without being able to ensure you and your family will be able to make a profit.

What astonishing buffoonery.


I've had the misfortune of having to evict two tenants.  Even in a "friendly" (we want this loser out of our town too...) court, it takes lots of forms and lots of time and $$.  This latest episode the loser wasn't even on the lease, but squatters have "rights" too.

It's disgusting.



property owners have rights as well

"I came to inspect MY property that I had closed and locked to see if
vandals had caused any damage, upon entering the property I was confronted
by a man making threats against my life and acting in a manner that put me
in fear of serious harm or death so I unloaded my pistol into him as he
charged after me in a very threatening manner"


Gotta love stories with a happy ending...


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Its really not fair tenant and landlord contracts should favor the property owner the tenant is renting a space that DOES NOT belong to him/her.


This is why you sign a contract giving you the right to quiet enjoyment and no rate hikes.

It's their property, they made the agreement to hand it to you for x period of time. My right to the property does trump theirs. Even if my right to quiet enjoyment is not stated in the contract, in illinois anyway.

I could link you all sorts of information about what renting housing was like before we had all this regulation.

Let's let slumlords do whatever they want :lol:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-nyc-law-puts-pressure-slumlords-article-1.1237582

And no, no one care about you and your shitty 3 properties that you bought in 2007. People care about tenants right's

Edited by Juicin (05/31/14 11:06 AM)

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Juicin] * 1
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Where in this thread did anyone suggest that being a slumlord is the right thing to do?

Where in this thread did anyone suggest the landlord can (or should be able to) violate the terms of the contract he signed?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Patlal said:
zZZz said:
raised it by almost 200$.. :crazy2:

why she do this?..



can she do this?..


She can't.

Contact the state.


Man it must suck to be a landlord in Canada how ever do the rich survive in that socialist hellhole?


First time ive heard landlord and rich in the same sentence :lol:

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
XLCaps said:
If you would read what I was saying rather than hoping for the answer that you want, you would realize that I already answered your question.

It IS fair because engaging in a rental agreement makes it about more than just what the landlord wants and needs.

That's called a contract.
Don't like it?
Don't rent.


How long have things been that fair in Ontario with the 1% a year rule?


There is no 1% law.  He has no idea what he's talking about.  In rent-controlled buildings, which are only buildings that were first lived in before 1986, then rent can only be raised by a rate set by the government every year.  It is related to inflation and is not a flat 1%.  It can be anywhere from 0-10% depending on the year and it ONLY applies to buildings first lived in before 1986.

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Juicin] * 1
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Juicin said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
Its really not fair tenant and landlord contracts should favor the property owner the tenant is renting a space that DOES NOT belong to him/her.


This is why you sign a contract giving you the right to quiet enjoyment and no rate hikes.


Until the contract ends.  Then there is no contract any more.  GTFO.
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It's their property, they made the agreement to hand it to you for x period of time. My right to the property does trump theirs. Even if my right to quiet enjoyment is not stated in the contract, in illinois anyway.


You have rights until the contract ends then you have none
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I could link you all sorts of information about what renting housing was like before we had all this regulation.


So?  Let's have 'em. 
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Let's let slumlords do whatever they want :lol:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-nyc-law-puts-pressure-slumlords-article-1.1237582

And no, no one care about you and your shitty 3 properties that you bought in 2007. People care about tenants right's


New York City LOL.  Rent control creates slumlords.  My property I can charge whatever some schmuck will agree to pay.  Don't wanna pay?  Piss up a rope and get the fuck out.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Here's my take:

Landlords shouldn't be able to raise rent 200$ after a lease is done. That's just circumventing eviction laws (because let's face it, a huge rent hike is a hidden eviction notice).

In Ontario, the rise in rent is determined every year based on inflation and other factors. Since the interests are low and inflation is low, the increase is like 1 to 2%, It's nothing really. I would love to be able to raise maybe 5% but I can't.

If lets say its legal to raise the rent 200$, the law could accept it as long as you keep the rent 200$ more expensive for your next tenant should the previous one leave. That way its not like "he raise the rent to kick me out because he lowered it right when I left to get a new guy" Again, circumventing eveiction laws.

There are plenty of ways to evict people. A hike in rent shouldn't be one. Its almost discrimination towards the lower class. If the guy you rent to is that bad, then you have grounds to evict him either way. Its people's home were talking about.

Sudden hikes in rent is too landlord sided. It makes it unfair for tenants.

On the other hand, let's take Quebec. The tenants are kings. Even if they break everything, the landlord has to jump through hoops and it can take as long as 6 months to evict a non paying/ troublesome tenant. That too tenant sided. Its unfair for the landlord.

Since landlording is a business, there should be certain risks in order to make a profit. Since tenancy is not ownership, there should be certain factors playing against you too. It should be 50/50 if you understand what I mean.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Here's my take:

Landlords shouldn't be able to raise rent 200$ after a lease is done. That's just circumventing eviction laws (because let's face it, a huge rent hike is a hidden eviction notice).

In Ontario, the rise in rent is determined every year based on inflation and other factors. Since the interests are low and inflation is low, the increase is like 1 to 2%, It's nothing really. I would love to be able to raise maybe 5% but I can't.

If lets say its legal to raise the rent 200$, the law could accept it as long as you keep the rent 200$ more expensive for your next tenant should the previous one leave. That way its not like "he raise the rent to kick me out because he lowered it right when I left to get a new guy" Again, circumventing eveiction laws.

There are plenty of ways to evict people. A hike in rent shouldn't be one. Its almost discrimination towards the lower class. If the guy you rent to is that bad, then you have grounds to evict him either way. Its people's home were talking about.

Sudden hikes in rent is too landlord sided. It makes it unfair for tenants.

On the other hand, let's take Quebec. The tenants are kings. Even if they break everything, the landlord has to jump through hoops and it can take as long as 6 months to evict a non paying/ troublesome tenant. That too tenant sided. Its unfair for the landlord.

Since landlording is a business, there should be certain risks in order to make a profit. Since tenancy is not ownership, there should be certain factors playing against you too. It should be 50/50 if you understand what I mean.


The lower class should bow before the upper class or move to an area the7 can afford.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Here's my take:

Landlords shouldn't be able to raise rent 200$ after a lease is done. That's just circumventing eviction laws (because let's face it, a huge rent hike is a hidden eviction notice).

In Ontario, the rise in rent is determined every year based on inflation and other factors. Since the interests are low and inflation is low, the increase is like 1 to 2%, It's nothing really. I would love to be able to raise maybe 5% but I can't.

If lets say its legal to raise the rent 200$, the law could accept it as long as you keep the rent 200$ more expensive for your next tenant should the previous one leave. That way its not like "he raise the rent to kick me out because he lowered it right when I left to get a new guy" Again, circumventing eveiction laws.

There are plenty of ways to evict people. A hike in rent shouldn't be one. Its almost discrimination towards the lower class. If the guy you rent to is that bad, then you have grounds to evict him either way. Its people's home were talking about.

Sudden hikes in rent is too landlord sided. It makes it unfair for tenants.

On the other hand, let's take Quebec. The tenants are kings. Even if they break everything, the landlord has to jump through hoops and it can take as long as 6 months to evict a non paying/ troublesome tenant. That too tenant sided. Its unfair for the landlord.

Since landlording is a business, there should be certain risks in order to make a profit. Since tenancy is not ownership, there should be certain factors playing against you too. It should be 50/50 if you understand what I mean.


No, I do not understand what you mean


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Patlal]
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And if your costs go up more than the allowable increase?

I'm stunned that any property owner/landlord would be OK with this. The government won't give a shit for your finances so you certainly should.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
And if your costs go up more than the allowable increase?

I'm stunned that any property owner/landlord would be OK with this. The government won't give a shit for your finances so you certainly should.


The province takes in consideration inflation and gives you an allowable percentage. But yes, I get it. Costs can shoot up quickly.


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