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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: zZZz]
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In my experience when these kind of things happen, it's more or less a way of them saying " move on ", or that they dont want you in the place anymore.

they're probably of the mind set to make things difficult for the tennant so they then choose to move out of their own accord.

i could be completely off the mark here i don't know. thats just my initial response.

what kind of terms are you on with your landlord? do you guys get along well, or have you had any trouble in the past kind of thing??


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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I'm not being narrow minded. Nor did I say everything needs to cater to the landlord. I notice you still haven't answered.

What is fair about telling a landlord what he/she can rent HIS or HER property for?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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clearly it's their property and they are free to do as they like, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it is a dick move.

i mean thats someones life and house for now. it's like firing someone from a job or something. moving house is a massive headache.

i'd be interested to know how much in terms of percentage the $200 increase is, because $200 seems like alot.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
pwnasaurus said:
Patlal said:
zZZz said:
raised it by almost 200$.. :crazy2:

why she do this?..



can she do this?..


She can't.

Contact the state.


You have no idea where OP lives, therefore you have no idea what the laws are.

Why don't you just look up the tenancy laws OP?  You have Google at your disposal.


I did jump the gun a little, but then again, if raising rent 200$ whenever you feel like is legal, I can't imagine how shitty being a tenant must be. Doesn't really make sense right?




typically when there's a rent increase of that amount it's because the
landlord feels they have a shitty tenant and wants them gone, most people
wont agree to a $200/mo increase and will seek another place. in most
states a landlord can raise the rent to any amount but cannot do so unless
the previous lease is expiring and these would be the new terms. they cant
just arbitrarily raise the rent in the middle of the term unless it's
clearly outlined in the lease


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #20064092 -

You're like a little kid with their hands on their ears.
Why would I want to continue talking with you?
Do you think repeating yourself and trying to talk down to me is making me feel like I've failed here?

Sorry kiddo.
Not much point in talking to you if you can't decipher the words I've already laid out.

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Soulidarity]
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Dosile said:
clearly it's their property and they are free to do as they like, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it is a dick move.

i mean thats someones life and house for now. it's like firing someone from a job or something. moving house is a massive headache.

i'd be interested to know how much in terms of percentage the $200 increase is, because $200 seems like alot.


There's no way to know from anything OP has posted whether it's a dick move or not.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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XLCaps said:
You're like a little kid with their hands on their ears.
Why would I want to continue talking with you?
Do you think repeating yourself and trying to talk down to me is making me feel like I've failed here?

Sorry kiddo.
Not much point in talking to you if you can't decipher the words I've already laid out.


I've asked a question. Your responses make it clear you either can't or won't answer.

You have failed here.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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yes, that is true also. zzz could be running a jenkem factory of some description and pimping hoes in the back room.


but initially you have to admit that it does appear to be a bit harsh.


How would you react if you were renting, and your landlord told you the bill was going up by $200?


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
I've asked a question. Your responses make it clear you either can't or won't answer.

You have failed here.


When you get out of high school, I would be glad to continue this conversation.
Until then, let this adult be since clearly between the two of us I'm the only one with enough reading comprehension.

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Soulidarity]
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Dosile said:
yes, that is true also. zzz could be running a jenkem factory of some description and pimping hoes in the back room.


but initially you have to admit that it does appear to be a bit harsh.


How would you react if you were renting, and your landlord told you the bill was going up by $200?


I would realize it's their property to do with as they wish. It's not up to me or any other person/entity to say what a landlord should charge. If I felt it was excessive, I'd move.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
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XLCaps said:
luvdemshrooms said:
I've asked a question. Your responses make it clear you either can't or won't answer.

You have failed here.


When you get out of high school, I would be glad to continue this conversation.
Until then, let this adult be since clearly between the two of us I'm the only one with enough reading comprehension.


Ah yes, you can't or won't answer a simple question so of course it's my reading comprehension.

A simple "I can't answer that" would have been simpler. Your failure to answer is quite telling.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Soulidarity]
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He's already stated they got the place cheap.  Then he states "around 4 roommates".  This is a tell for "we have a lot of people living here some of whom aren't on the lease".

Does anyone on here have the least compassion for landlords?  We are trying to make a living.

Let me describe my last "good" tenant who has moved out.

She left me:

1.  A full fridge!  Nice I can enjoy all that free food.  Or just leave it for the next "lucky" tenant.
2.  Five (5) Tires!  Oh boy now I can either give them away (ha ha ha ha) or take them to the dump where they charge big $$ now to dispose of them.
3.  All her christmas lights with the associated 300 staples into my new trim boards.
4.  Chicken feed!  And shit in two structures, feathers, etc.
5.  Two rooms of completely destroyed carpeting!  Thanks for bringing in that pit bull without approval or a deposit!
6-15. etc etc etc.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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nah ofcourse, i mean thats how it goes i guess. but you can understand how it would feel like a bit of a kick in the nads though?


especially keeping in mind that zzz is alot younger and probably not as financially stable as yourself.


i'm making assumptions here, but from what we've been told so far, this landlord is a cunt.


he's dumping a steaming pile of shit onto someone elses plate that doesn't need to be there.


especially if it was without no warnings and just out of the blue.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
He's already stated they got the place cheap.  Then he states "around 4 roommates".  This is a tell for "we have a lot of people living here some of whom aren't on the lease".

Does anyone on here have the least compassion for landlords?  We are trying to make a living.

Let me describe my last "good" tenant who has moved out.

She left me:

1.  A full fridge!  Nice I can enjoy all that free food.  Or just leave it for the next "lucky" tenant.
2.  Five (5) Tires!  Oh boy now I can either give them away (ha ha ha ha) or take them to the dump where they charge big $$ now to dispose of them.
3.  All her christmas lights with the associated 300 staples into my new trim boards.
4.  Chicken feed!  And shit in two structures, feathers, etc.
5.  Two rooms of completely destroyed carpeting!  Thanks for bringing in that pit bull without approval or a deposit!
6-15. etc etc etc.


That and many other reasons is why rent control is in no-way "fair". And if indeed the increase is limited to 1% as was stated earlier, what if the landlords expenses go up 2, 3, 5 or whatever % more. He or she should suck it up because of the failure of the tenant to make more or buy their own place?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: Soulidarity]
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Dosile said:
nah ofcourse, i mean thats how it goes i guess. but you can understand how it would feel like a bit of a kick in the nads though?


especially keeping in mind that zzz is alot younger and probably not as financially stable as yourself.


i'm making assumptions here, but from what we've been told so far, this landlord is a cunt.


he's dumping a steaming pile of shit onto someone elses plate that doesn't need to be there.


especially if it was without no warnings and just out of the blue.


I haven't always owned my own place. I've been a renter. I've gotten rent increases. I didn't like any of them. However, the landlord owned the place. I was his tenant. It's not my, or anyone elses place, to tell him what he can charge.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
LunarEclipse said:
He's already stated they got the place cheap.  Then he states "around 4 roommates".  This is a tell for "we have a lot of people living here some of whom aren't on the lease".

Does anyone on here have the least compassion for landlords?  We are trying to make a living.

Let me describe my last "good" tenant who has moved out.

She left me:

1.  A full fridge!  Nice I can enjoy all that free food.  Or just leave it for the next "lucky" tenant.
2.  Five (5) Tires!  Oh boy now I can either give them away (ha ha ha ha) or take them to the dump where they charge big $$ now to dispose of them.
3.  All her christmas lights with the associated 300 staples into my new trim boards.
4.  Chicken feed!  And shit in two structures, feathers, etc.
5.  Two rooms of completely destroyed carpeting!  Thanks for bringing in that pit bull without approval or a deposit!
6-15. etc etc etc.


That and many other reasons is why rent control is in no-way "fair". And if indeed the increase is limited to 1% as was stated earlier, what if the landlords expenses go up 2, 3, 5 or whatever % more. He or she should suck it up because of the failure of the tenant to make more or buy their own place?


Given this particular property has 3+ months equivalent of rent in property taxes BEFORE rent, and those alone go up yearly at 3% a year (thanks Measure 5), it ain't exactly a money maker.  Now this, more work to get it ready for in this case resale.  Fuck tenants.  I'm done.  One by one, they move out, house gets sold.  Far too many headaches...


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Yeah, the "logic" of some people boggles my mind.

Government tells you (rightly IMO) that your place must meet certain standards. Any decent landlord that wants to attract good tenants will already do just that. Now after mandating these standards those same governmental officials (and tenants) wish to tell you that you should invest money and take the risks without being able to ensure you and your family will be able to make a profit.

What astonishing buffoonery.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Yeah, the "logic" of some people boggles my mind.

Government tells you (rightly IMO) that your place must meet certain standards. Any decent landlord that wants to attract good tenants will already do just that. Now after mandating these standards those same governmental officials (and tenants) wish to tell you that you should invest money and take the risks without being able to ensure you and your family will be able to make a profit.

What astonishing buffoonery.


I've had the misfortune of having to evict two tenants.  Even in a "friendly" (we want this loser out of our town too...) court, it takes lots of forms and lots of time and $$.  This latest episode the loser wasn't even on the lease, but squatters have "rights" too.

It's disgusting.


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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: LunarEclipse]
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It is disgusting. There are tenants that make a habit of moving from one place to another, abusing the system and costing landlords plenty. These tenants, as is so often the case, are a minority but have ruined it for the many. My rental standards were at one time far less stringent than they are now. Life taught me some good lessons.

Sometimes things change for the better though. I owned a building in a state where there were special rules for winter evictions. It was practically impossible to throw out even the shittiest tenants mid-winter. Fortunately that changed. The look one these shitbags faces when they were tossed after the rule change was... priceless.

Now, thanks to the tenant "protections" decent renters are sometimes having troubles finding a place because landlords, knowing the protection in place for tenants, are using rather strict standards when deciding who to rent to.

The minority bad tenants (and laws that protect them) have screwed the decent tenants.

A law that limits what a landlord can charge will frequently result in a building where less repairs and improvements are done.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: so my landlord raised the rent on us.. [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Yeah, the "logic" of some people boggles my mind.

Government tells you (rightly IMO) that your place must meet certain standards. Any decent landlord that wants to attract good tenants will already do just that. Now after mandating these standards those same governmental officials (and tenants) wish to tell you that you should invest money and take the risks without being able to ensure you and your family will be able to make a profit.

What astonishing buffoonery.


I've had the misfortune of having to evict two tenants.  Even in a "friendly" (we want this loser out of our town too...) court, it takes lots of forms and lots of time and $$.  This latest episode the loser wasn't even on the lease, but squatters have "rights" too.

It's disgusting.



property owners have rights as well

"I came to inspect MY property that I had closed and locked to see if
vandals had caused any damage, upon entering the property I was confronted
by a man making threats against my life and acting in a manner that put me
in fear of serious harm or death so I unloaded my pistol into him as he
charged after me in a very threatening manner"


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