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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
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Did you see the word proof in my post?

You're trying too hard. I have things to do, so if the last word makes you happy.... go for it.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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If bush waged this war to improve the economy with the as-yet-not-occuring large drop in oil prices, wouldn't it have improved by now? If bush was part of some massive conspiracy, it's failing miserably.


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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
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Who said he was trying to improve the economy? I said it was to DISTRACT people from the shitty economy.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
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this is a real shocker and everything...but i think you missed the point.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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There is lots of speculation and conjecture, but no proof that will stand on it's own.


we could say the same about the case we made to go to war, i think.

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: ]
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I'm not too surprised by the liberal reaction (nor the lack of it) to this post. Clinton can do no wrong, bush can do no good. That is their ignorant way of looking at the world, and since it's not based in fact, no amount of fact can prove them wrong.


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PsiloKitten said:
Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
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i dont do the clinton vs. bush thing, but its obviously no secret a lot of dems acted like they wanted to invade iraq, and that all this 'bush is a liar' 'bush is wrong about iraq' shit is political.

the only thing that bothers me.. is g dub and his crew did have to spin their intelligence and reasoning to get the american people to accept the war. it really doesnt seem as if there was any 'bulletproof' evidence of saddam's wmd programs before we invaded.

rumsfeld (if i remember correctly) went so far as to say 'we KNOW he has them, and we know about where they are.'

thats a very serious charge, and we have found nothing to back it up.

the basic reasoning for war is not the issue, the way they spun it to us is, though.

i'm all for deposing leaders who commit atrocities upon their people, and who may have wmds, but to perform a pre emptive strike..

we must not have DAMN good intel, we must have ROCK FUCKING SOLID intel. this isnt a fucking game, this is taking the lives of possibly tens of thousands of people in our hands. we cant fuck around with shit like that. we're supposed to be a bastion of freedom and integrity. we cant go into poor nations bombing the shit out of things based on "they wmds at one time, the inspectors cant find them, but they never said where they were."

i think it would have been worth it to find a way to put pressure on saddam and the region, rally more international support, then if THAT failed, invade. we obviously cant trust saddam's integrity.


wow i went out on tangent on that one..

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
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lysergic said:
I'm not too surprised by the liberal reaction (nor the lack of it) to this post. Clinton can do no wrong, bush can do no good. That is their ignorant way of looking at the world, and since it's not based in fact, no amount of fact can prove them wrong.


Tell me where I said anything about Clinton doing no wrong. You won't find many Clinton supporters on this site,


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Edited by Rono (10/14/03 02:26 PM)

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: ]
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immaculate said:
There is lots of speculation and conjecture, but no proof that will stand on it's own.


we could say the same about the case we made to go to war, i think.


A fair response.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Somone's right about bush failing miserably.. Wrong context though..

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: Bhairabas]
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Mommy why aren't their as many posts in here? I thought that the liberalpeople said BUSH was lying, but the master of truth, ole honest clinton himself, said the same things, and he bombed Iraq? Mommy are the liberalslying to us? Not CLINTON, he wouldn't lie, would he ?


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In response to an attack killing 15 American Servicemen
PsiloKitten said:
Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
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Mommy, why does this guy keep posting when he has no idea what he's talking about? I haven't seen anyone stand up for Clinton, so why does he act like we are.


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Edited by Rono (10/14/03 02:25 PM)

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
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I haven't seen anyone bash clinton as a liar as much as they have Bush either.  Thats because clinton can do no wrong :smile:


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PsiloKitten said:
Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
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No, it's cuz Clinton's been out of office for 3 years. We've got Bush to deal with now.


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