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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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Perhaps you're right. Not all people do this, but ACORN is a good example. DO you remember that video?  Not all do that, but all the same, why reward those who do?

It will be the broke drug addict who want $20 dollars to turn his life around, and proceeds to get another hit. NOt all people are drug addicts, but those that are ruin it for everyone else.


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"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
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"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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First, I try to be polite, is it so much to ask that in return?

Second, If I do what you say, you know, I don't want them to just get it, I will stop paying x sum of taxes. How do you think that will go over?


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malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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if you want to be more polite, you be more logical. don't blame everybody. blame who deserves it.

making everything a black and white point of view is not going to help or change anything. i'm sick of hearing these orthodox opinions being rammed up everyone's ass, because certain people expect the world to fucking work.

stop it. stop it please... i can't stand it. people are going to drive insane with there illogical pandering bullshit.

you wanna talk ACORN... TALK FUCKING ACORN.

*now will apologize for being angry. i and you would get along quite fine in RL. i'd do work to help you out like a friend... i'd take and follow your instruction, if i had the power to do so, literally. but your opinions, as much as they matter, are NOT a truth. it is of opinions, and it should be construed as such*

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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You are one of the few here with whom I can conduct a conversation without descending into profanity or semantics. I left you a +5.

As for ACORN, They, on camera, provided instructions on how best to house illegals, have the fed pay for them ( me via taxes), and have them act as prostitutes, all with the help of my money subsidizing it. Oh and the money to be laundered into their political campaign. This is an extreme example, but you see my point?

These people got my money. This is how it turned out. This is an example we know about, what about the ones we don't?


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malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


Have you ever read a history book?
There was a time before minimum wage, it exists now because what you're saying is horse shit.


Your just indoctrinated that the state needs to protect people from themselves. If you can negotiate your own wages it is more equitable for everyone as everyone's true talents are represented instead of the government assuming every worker is the same.


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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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i'm still pissed off ignore the tone. i am trying to be polite.*
there are plenty of examples. YES people who want something for nothing, are idiots. look at me for example... i was an idiot once... (and i'm still an idiot, though maybe less so)** i thought i deserved things for simply being around and i still haven't changed much... only one thing has changed... i don't ask for anything. NOTHING. i might be a little fucked up... but at least i understand nowadays that i can't EXPECT anything. period.


i earn it, OR someone gives to me of their own free will. YES, sometimes i'm an asshole... alot even... i don't pay my debts... because i feel that i don't any. call me a jerk. but i don't ASK for ANY OF IT. now, if i was in your position. SURE i'd be pissed. who wouldn't be. but there are so many example of this rampant bullshit... that to pit it all on people being "weak" or "stupid" is ASININE, and i get enraged when i see it. it's contradictory, first of all, and secondly the world ins't perfect... aside from it being perfectly endless with it's bullshit. people who have alot should learn to deal with the bullshit as it comes, and if they're going to preach objectivity, they should preform it. they should DO IT.

poor people can be stupid annoying fucks, like myself... so can rich people. idiots can be annoying and yet they can be useful. smart people can be great, but they can also be USELESS.

so who should really give a flying fuck about making the world work as THEY think it should. they don't have a clue how it should work. if they did. they'd CHANGE IT.

i'm still pissed off ignore the tone. i am trying to be polite.*

rew736 said:
Oh and the money to be laundered into their political campaign. This is an extreme example, but you see my point?

These people got my money. This is how it turned out. This is an example we know about, what about the ones we don't?


PS: yes, it's frustrating and quite frankly like a cancer. but how else do you expect people in power to function. they are human and they want MORE for themselves. they do just like the poor.

when ever someone HAS more... THEY JUST WANT MORE.

man, i am so sick of this shit. :lol: excuse my tone again please. i am fuming, because i know, things will never change. i would rather die poor and taxed, then die trying to change this fucking world.

as sad as that sounds, this seems to be the state of the world to me. i wish i could change.

** edit

Edited by akira_akuma (05/13/14 09:37 PM)

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Repertoire89 said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


Have you ever read a history book?
There was a time before minimum wage, it exists now because what you're saying is horse shit.


Your just indoctrinated that the state needs to protect people from themselves. If you can negotiate your own wages it is more equitable for everyone as everyone's true talents are represented instead of the government assuming every worker is the same.


there shouldn't even be a state. stop pandering. change the world and shut up already.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
Repertoire89 said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


Have you ever read a history book?
There was a time before minimum wage, it exists now because what you're saying is horse shit.


Your just indoctrinated that the state needs to protect people from themselves. If you can negotiate your own wages it is more equitable for everyone as everyone's true talents are represented instead of the government assuming every worker is the same.


there shouldn't even be a state. stop pandering. change the world and shut up already.


Ah I agree there should be no state


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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Repertoire89 said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


Have you ever read a history book?
There was a time before minimum wage, it exists now because what you're saying is horse shit.


Your just indoctrinated that the state needs to protect people from themselves. If you can negotiate your own wages it is more equitable for everyone as everyone's true talents are represented instead of the government assuming every worker is the same.


History shows otherwise. Where can you show a self governing market in reality land which doesn't further stratification and poverty?

Here's a neo-conservative talking about being indoctrinated, the sad part is you have nothing to offer the elites but your nose.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
Ah I agree there should be no state


makes you feel good don't it. to know that i can understand, listen to and follow your lead.

lets focus on that more then focus on changing the world as it is.

hard work pays off. fiscal responsibility pays off. being knowledgeable and practising yourSELF pays off.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 2
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Enjoywho said:
zappaisgod said:
Enjoywho said:
zappaisgod said:
If you make minimum wage you have no business having children.  Unless you are a teenager you have defective genes.




:rolleyes:

Whatever old man. Knew you'd have something dumb to say.


Let me guess.  You were a teenager when you had children.

Anybody in the work force for more than 1 year who is still making minimum wage is retarded


I'm 23 and have no kids. If you read my post like a coherent adult you'd see I said a lot of the people are older people who migrated to make a better life. Every time you post this is all I can really do :rolleyes:


So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


The people in seatac won. Seattle folk are fighting now for 15 dollar minimum wage. They will win the ceos are what .001 of the population. Most are corporations that don't even live here.

What are you even talking about I've been working since I was 11.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Enjoywho]
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My question is, what happens when the peoples labor is not worth 15$ an hour?


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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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they suffer. question is, is it worth it?

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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rew736 said:
Parents raising they) is perfectly fine. But why should we as taxpayers get shafted because two teens wanted to have fun?


I don't have kids. Most of the hot girls have kids that I went to high school with. Why is this even relevant to a minimum wage increase?

Everything is getting more expensive. Gas, insurance, food, housing, electricity, etc. You guys are truly losing the main fucking fucking point. Not surprising this is the shroomery and nobody reads shit. The


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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rew736 said:
My question is, what happens when the peoples labor is not worth 15$ an hour?


Who gives a shit. Should the cost of anything be inflated as much as it is?


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
Who gives a shit.


Many give a shit.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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yet they change nothing.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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Read the rest of it. It's inflation and I'm proud of the cities here in Washington that are fighting to let you make a wage that you can even support yourself.

My dad makes 21$ an hour working for an insane company that does million dollar contracts for nasa. He's even constantly broke. Rents a room so he can have a little spending money and still looking for a part time job serving. That's full time as well. Crazy stuff.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
yet they change nothing.


We'll have to disagree.

Change comes slowly. Sometimes it's the change you wanted, sometimes it's not. But not trying is just pathetic.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Quote:
9. It’s a sneaky way to increase welfare spending and raise taxes. Raising taxes to spend more on welfare is a political loser. But raising the minimum wage puts money in the pockets of working poor people, at the expense of business owners (and of consumers who would pay in the form of higher prices). If politicians want to increase the earned income tax credit or other work-related welfare benefits, they should do the hard work of building political support for such policies, rather than choosing the roundabout approach of a minimum wage increase.


And a low minimum wage is a way for companies to get the taxpayers to subsidize their employees' wages when they still qualify for assistance even when working 40 hours.


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