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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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I think what zappa is trying to point at is that, in our culture, sex and pleasure are pushed upon us as almost rights. And as a result, many teens see it as a right to have sex and enjoy themselves. The trouble comes when they find out that no strings attached, doesn't really mean no strings attached, and they are essentially forced into either kill the baby (abort the fetus for politically correct ones out there) or be forever condemned to poverty.

IMO, fast food jobs are for teens, but that being said, as side jobs. A little something to bring in extra cash. Not as a means of sustaining themselves. And a pregnancy would be financially unfeasible at that point.


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"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
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"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
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"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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What the fuck? That isn't what he's saying at all. No idea what your talking about were talking about minimum wage here.


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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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according to Zappa, there shouldn't be any restaurants unless it's three Michelin star, because they aren't "solvent" or sustainable.

can you imagine? only really highminded non-living fuckwads who like control should be able to eat out. anyone else, you can't cook? suffer. because.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Enjoywho]
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I am building on zappas point that if you work minimum wage, a child is out of question. Financially unfeasible.


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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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rew736 said:
I think what zappa is trying to point at is that, in our culture, sex and pleasure are pushed upon us as almost rights. And as a result, many teens see it as a right to have sex and enjoy themselves. The trouble comes when they find out that no strings attached, doesn't really mean no strings attached, and they are essentially forced into either kill the baby (abort the fetus for politically correct ones out there) or be forever condemned to poverty.

IMO, fast food jobs are for teens, but that being said, as side jobs. A little something to bring in extra cash. Not as a means of sustaining themselves. And a pregnancy would be financially unfeasible at that point.


in this logic, all people should be born adults, because being teens is not livable.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
rew736 said:
I think what zappa is trying to point at is that, in our culture, sex and pleasure are pushed upon us as almost rights. And as a result, many teens see it as a right to have sex and enjoy themselves. The trouble comes when they find out that no strings attached, doesn't really mean no strings attached, and they are essentially forced into either kill the baby (abort the fetus for politically correct ones out there) or be forever condemned to poverty.

IMO, fast food jobs are for teens, but that being said, as side jobs. A little something to bring in extra cash. Not as a means of sustaining themselves. And a pregnancy would be financially unfeasible at that point.


in this logic, all people should be born adults, because being teens is not livable.


Hopefully they are born to working adults who can subsidize them until they are self sufficient...

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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rew736 said:
I am building on zappas point that if you work minimum wage, a child is out of question. Financially unfeasible.


great. but lets not bash minimum wage jobs or workers. because without them, there is no class... there is only leaders, and not.

and in that world, we live as gladiators.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
akira_akuma said:
rew736 said:
I think what zappa is trying to point at is that, in our culture, sex and pleasure are pushed upon us as almost rights. And as a result, many teens see it as a right to have sex and enjoy themselves. The trouble comes when they find out that no strings attached, doesn't really mean no strings attached, and they are essentially forced into either kill the baby (abort the fetus for politically correct ones out there) or be forever condemned to poverty.

IMO, fast food jobs are for teens, but that being said, as side jobs. A little something to bring in extra cash. Not as a means of sustaining themselves. And a pregnancy would be financially unfeasible at that point.


in this logic, all people should be born adults, because being teens is not livable.


Hopefully they are born to working adults who can subsidize them until they are self sufficient...


sure. but subsidy should be argued against too, right? because who should have to take care of anyone else, but themselves? this is Zappa's logic, correct?

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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No. As a teen, having a child is a bad thing. Once you grow, and move up, then you will be able to provide then is it OK in my book.  Being a teen is very livable, just not supporting a baby.


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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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No, I dont think so.  That is your incorrect caricature of his logic.  You are free to subsidize whoever you want.  Your kids, his kids, hell - send me some money, Ill take it.  He is against a low wage worker demanding a subsidy from others for their fiscally irresponsible procreation.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
zappaisgod said:
Enjoywho said:
zappaisgod said:
If you make minimum wage you have no business having children.  Unless you are a teenager you have defective genes.


:rolleyes:

Whatever old man. Knew you'd have something dumb to say.


Let me guess.  You were a teenager when you had children.

Anybody in the work force for more than 1 year who is still making minimum wage is retarded


I'm 23 and have no kids. If you read my post like a coherent adult you'd see I said a lot of the people are older people who migrated to make a better life. Every time you post this is all I can really do :rolleyes:


So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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Parents raising them (subsidy) is perfectly fine. But why should we as taxpayers get shafted because two teens wanted to have fun?


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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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rew736 said:
Parents raising them (subsidy) is perfectly fine. But why should we as taxpayers get shafted because two teens wanted to have fun?


you get so shated. so badly... oh em gee.

it's sooo bad... kill kill kill

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
    #19983151 -

Quote:
No, I dont think so.  That is your incorrect caricature of his logic.  You are free to subsidize whoever you want.  Your kids, his kids, hell - send me some money, Ill take it.  He is against a low wage worker demanding a subsidy from others for their fiscally irresponsible procreation.



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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: DieCommie]
    #19983163 -

DieCommie said:
No, I dont think so.  That is your incorrect caricature of his logic.  You are free to subsidize whoever you want.  Your kids, his kids, hell - send me some money, Ill take it.  He is against a low wage worker demanding a subsidy from others for their fiscally irresponsible procreation.


not exactly. let me fetch a quote.

zappaisgod said:
Anybody in the work force for more than 1 year who is still making minimum wage is retarded



so here he says... all people who work minimum wage for more then a year are retarded.

anyone who doesn't care about making tons of money, or making a life for their yet unborn children, is retarded. by his fucking logic.

not everyone wants to have kids, anyways... NOT everyone cares about making lots of money. or being successful in the eyes of fucking fucknut over here

so... in conclusion... the caricature is clearly accurate.

Edited by akira_akuma (05/13/14 09:08 PM)

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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I tried to respond to that, but I don't see a coherent argument. Are you saying I should not be against giving them my money because they feel entitled to it? By doing that you would be subsidizing bad behavior and backing it up with positive reinforcement.

Have sex and have fun -> have someone else pay for it.


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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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rew736 said:
Quote:
No, I dont think so.  That is your incorrect caricature of his logic.  You are free to subsidize whoever you want.  Your kids, his kids, hell - send me some money, Ill take it.  He is against a low wage worker demanding a subsidy from others for their fiscally irresponsible procreation.



no one even has to demand it. they get it. that's the system for ya. now stop bitching about people who complain, because they aren't changing anything anyway and quit lumping them up with people whom don't complain, is asinine.

rew736 said:
I tried to respond to that, but I don't see a coherent argument. Are you saying I should not be against giving them my money because they feel entitled to it? By doing that you would be subsidizing bad behavior and backing it up with positive reinforcement.

Have sex and have fun -> have someone else pay for it.


no, you should accept the fact that not everyone does that, so don't say that they do. it's not like BECAUSE you are making minimum wage, that you automatically demand anything, yet that's how you present your point.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: akira_akuma]
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That is the point! They get it, without anything! Pro bene, today they deserve it, tomorrow they're entitled to it, the third they, when you take it away they riot over unfair treatment.


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My trade list
malicom said:
"Banana's emit radiation. In fact banannas are the standard in detecting solar radiation. The radiation read from a bananna tells scientists how active the sun was during the growing season. Make sure to steer clear of bananas too."
seekaytea said:
"I need to stop spending all my money on plants and take up a cheaper hobby, like heroin."
Wiccan_Seeker said:
"Your knowledge on male-on-male rape and willingness to engage in fantasy regarding the matter is commendable."
eminemvs.slimshady said:
"I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?"

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #19983185 -

Gilgamesh18 said:
So you want these people to lose there ability to negotiate there wages by having a minimum wage it is you who is anti worker


Have you ever read a history book?
There was a time before minimum wage, it exists now because what you're saying is horse shit.

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Re: Senate Democrats Join Republicans to Block Minimum Wage Hike [Re: rew736]
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ok, then change the fucking world you people are so fucking retarded.

change it then

change human nature too while you're at it. if you can, great. i hope so. the world should be different right? so change it.

not everyone demands shit from you, they just get it. be mad. go ahead. but don't say that everyone "demands" it.

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