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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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Dude, you realize it's not really possible to torture yourself, right? The reason water-boarding is torture isn't that there is physical pain, but psychological pain. It's is a lot less traumatic if you are letting people you know won't actually harm you do it... And even then, apparently it is pretty bad.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Dude, you realize it's not really possible to torture yourself, right? The reason water-boarding is torture isn't that there is physical pain, but psychological pain. It's is a lot less traumatic if you are letting people you know won't actually harm you do it... And even then, apparently it is pretty bad.




It's like letting your friend hold your head under water. You know they're not going to really drown you but you still freak the fuck out not having immediate control of your own life.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Herbologist]
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Herbologist said:
Gorlax said:
Fuk that, an overdose is painless. He should have been dragged from a fucking truck across 120F sand.



:whathesaid:




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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Dude, you realize it's not really possible to torture yourself, right? The reason water-boarding is torture isn't that there is physical pain, but psychological pain. It's is a lot less traumatic if you are letting people you know won't actually harm you do it... And even then, apparently it is pretty bad.




Dude i had my friend do it too me, it sucks but its not that bad.


Get your fingernails ripped out and balls zapped and then tell me how cruel and unusual it is

:lol:


I guess bleeding hearts always need something to cry about :shrug:

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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If it isn't bad, then why would we waste our time and reputation doing it? You didn't do it right. I would suggest trying again.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
If it isn't bad, then why would we waste our time and reputation doing it? You didn't do it right. I would suggest trying again.





The kid that did it was a sgt in the army.


Who gives a fuck about our reputation, thats how they got Osama btw....


ITs bad but i don’t even know what to say if you think its too cruel to do to people that want to kill millions of your countrymen.


I would bet literally every country that matters does something similar. I don’t even want to know what china and russias methods are.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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they want to kill our countrymen because we live in an imperialist country

just throwin that one out there


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
koods said:
Dude, you realize it's not really possible to torture yourself, right? The reason water-boarding is torture isn't that there is physical pain, but psychological pain. It's is a lot less traumatic if you are letting people you know won't actually harm you do it... And even then, apparently it is pretty bad.




It's like letting your friend hold your head under water. You know they're not going to really drown you but you still freak the fuck out not having immediate control of your own life.



it sucks. ive been waterboarded by some friends and only for about a minute. i would not recommend it, even as an interrogation method.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said:
koods said:
If it isn't bad, then why would we waste our time and reputation doing it? You didn't do it right. I would suggest trying again.





The kid that did it was a sgt in the army.


Who gives a fuck about our reputation, thats how they got Osama btw....




Well, reputation is what the rest of the world bases its opinion on.

Also, you shouldn't be getting your historical facts from movies.

http://t.nbcnews.com/entertainment/zero-dark-thirty-torture-controversy-filmmakers-stand-their-ground-1B7888504
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Zero Dark Thirty" opens with graphic scenes of enhanced interrogation techniques that were implemented by the Bush administration after 9-11, techniques like waterboarding and sexual humiliation that are illegal under international law. But many political commentators have pointed out that by including the dark side of the government's hunt for Al Qaeda, it may give viewers the wrong impression: that the brutal interrogation methods worked and are the reason we found Bin Laden.

When in fact nothing could be further from the truth--as Senator Diane Feinstein, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Senator John McCain, who was tortured during his service in Vietnam--publicly stated last month, fearing such scenes could perpetuate a myth.

The two joined Senator Carl Levin in sending the head of "Zero Dark Thirty"'s distributor, Sony Pictures Entertainment chairman Michael Lynton, a letter, saying "have a moral obligation to get the facts right" and noted that the Al Qaeda leader was found through the "hard work and dedication" of intelligence professionals, not in any way through "coercive interrogation techniques




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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Its time to let a true expert speak. The following quote is from Albert Pierrepont, who was Britain's Chief Executioner from 1932-1956, in which period he personally executed by hanging at least 435 people:


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Albert Pierrepont said:

It is said to be a deterrent. I cannot agree. There have been murders since the beginning of time, and we shall go on looking for deterrents until the end of time. If death were a deterrent, I might be expected to know. It is I who have faced them last, young men and girls, working men, grandmothers. I have been amazed to see the courage with which they take that walk into the unknown. It did not deter them then, and it had not deterred them when they committed what they were convicted for. All the men and women whom I have faced at that final moment convince me that in what I have done I have not prevented a single murder.

source




With this expert testimony I say we can take definitively take the argument that the death penalty is a deterrant off the table.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Asante]
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death penalty is just a waste of money this day and age.

just shoot em and get it over with...

get rid of the 40 year appeal process and all that.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Synthe]
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Synthe said:
McGuire's "children and daughter-in-law were crying and visibly upset," Gray tweeted.




Here's a thought.. don't bring children to an execution..


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Shroomism]
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I feel like I would drag out an opiate based OD as long as possible just for the smacked out feeling.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Synthe said:
McGuire's "children and daughter-in-law were crying and visibly upset," Gray tweeted.




Here's a thought.. don't bring children to an execution..



Adult children. And if we are going to have executions, let's make them public. One of the reasons why people seem to be so disconnected from reality when it comes to death and violence, is we sanitize what it is like to die. Even violence on TV and movies is unrealistic. Maybe if people saw what it really looks like when someone is killed, they wouldn't be to eager to see it happen.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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People saw that for 1000s of years and it didn't seem to deter them before :shrug2:


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The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on folly. -Proverbs 15:14

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“Imagination is everything. It is the preview of Life’s coming attractions.”
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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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I recommend everyone watch the Werner herzog documentary "into the abyss " for a balanced, nuanced, moving and insightful perspective on capital punishment and the death penalty.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
elax420 said:
koods said:
If it isn't bad, then why would we waste our time and reputation doing it? You didn't do it right. I would suggest trying again.





The kid that did it was a sgt in the army.


Who gives a fuck about our reputation, thats how they got Osama btw....




Well, reputation is what the rest of the world bases its opinion on.









Why the fuck would i give a fucking shit what some vagina in the pussiest part of the world thinks about what i do in my home state/county?


And you are a complete fool if you think torture hasn’t lead to valuable information. I guess this conversation is over. Evidently you live in fantasy land where everyone is nice and sweet to each other and is worried about offending random halfway across the globe.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
elax420 said:
koods said:
If it isn't bad, then why would we waste our time and reputation doing it? You didn't do it right. I would suggest trying again.





The kid that did it was a sgt in the army.


Who gives a fuck about our reputation, thats how they got Osama btw....




Well, reputation is what the rest of the world bases its opinion on.









Why the fuck would i give a fucking shit what some vagina in the pussiest part of the world thinks about what i do in my home state/county? I sure as hell don’t give a fuck what they want to do in their little desert shitholes


And you are a complete fool if you think torture hasn’t lead to valuable information. I guess this conversation is over. Evidently you live in fantasy land where everyone is nice and sweet to each other and is worried about offending random halfway across the globe.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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This guy, callin peoples fools livin in a fantasy when he believes everything he sees in a movie.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
This guy, callin peoples fools livin in a fantasy when he believes everything he sees in a movie.




What did i believe i saw in a movie?


Okay fill us in on how they got information on the most secretive guy in the world canada.



Certainly not from torturing the fuck out of his best friends, right....

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