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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
elax420 said:
The death penalty is meant to be a punishment.

Bull fucking shit execution isn’t a deterrent to crime. That shit is retarded.  To the guy above me trying to plea “innocent” you have never been to court have you :lol:


You said your self people take plea deals to take the death penalty off of the table.


Koods: thats part of living in a democracy. I don’t agree with a lot of the shit my fellow citizens vote for, but its much better than having some douchebag lay down the law according to him.

The major reason I’m not doing hard drugs as we speak is because i don’t want to go to prison, but according to you guys that isn’t a deterrent to crime....



I don't believe any person is going to think "well, I was going to commit this murder but I shouldn't because instead of getting life, I will get the death penalty." I don't think death is anymore of a deterrent than life in prison.

Someone who is committing murder thinks they will be getting away with the crime, anyways. It's not going matter if the max sentence is lifetime in prison or the death penalty - we aren't really talking about the most rational group of people, either,

Yes it is a democracy. That's why I'm trying to change your mind. :shrug:

Just do a thought experiment. You have been charged with a capital crime. You are innocent, but your lawyer says that if you go to trial, there is a good chance you will be convicted and sentenced to death. You can take death off the table if you plead guilty and take life in prison. Remember, that you are innocent and it is always possible that this fact will come to light, as it has in the past. What do you do?



Ya because people that murder other people are fucking insane in the membrane. The first thing i think when I’m committing illegal activities is how much trouble could this get me into, is the risk/reward worth it?


Hell yes I’ve wanted to kill people, have I? fuck no I’m not a psychopathic dumbass. I wouldn’t be stupid enough to be put in that position, and if i were in that position it would most likely mean i have a court appointed lawyer, so hell yes i would take that plea bargain and run. Either way your life is ruined, its just how much do you want to gamble with, and how solid is the states case against you, which if they are pursuing the death penalty i would imagine is pretty damn open and shut.

Join the Aryan Brother hood and get murdered in a max security prison 5 years down the road :shrug: Life is way better than death row. Watch some prison shows, obviously both would suck ass but the lifers get high and do hood rat shit all day. Death row is just fucking depressing.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
If I drop a rock on you and kill you, it's murder. Accident or not..



:lmafo:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I was agreeing with you, fucker. Moreso making a mockery of the majority of pro capital punshiment peoples replies.




Yours are the stupidest replies in this thread dude.



You are trying to equate people who don’t feel bad for a guy that raped and murdered a women in the 3rd trimester to the criminal himself.



Cool you are against the death penalty, in a case that the death penalty was fucking made for. You can’t even make an argument against capital punishment aside from "it upsets my vagina". What value does this fucker being alive provide to society? Killing him, like ordered by the court, at least provides not only justice, but closure as well. Oh ya but i forgot you are cleary a huge fan of unjust autocracies.




Oh ya this is what 3 trimester looks like. Poor fellow went out an awesome feeling overdose how barbaric!

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420] * 1
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Yeah its barbaric, so is offing the guy. An action that doesnt give any reprisal to the crime. You fuckin retarded or what?

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Yeah its barbaric, so is offing the guy. An action that doesnt give any reprisal to the crime. You fuckin retarded or what?



Well thats what the court ordered and the family obviously didn’t push for clemency or it most likely would have been awarded.


Seig heil der furher.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Yeah its barbaric, so is offing the guy. An action that doesnt give any reprisal to the crime. You fuckin retarded or what?



Well thats what the court ordered and the family obviously didn’t push for clemency or it most likely would have been awarded.


Seig heil der furher.



What?

So it's up to the court but also up to the victim's family?

Should we just have a raffle everytime there's a case being prosecuted to see who gets to deal down the justice?


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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No. It's not up to the family.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
No. It's not up to the family.



Because they would exact revenge, not justice. Same goes for the judicial system. Killing a man in no way rehabilitates him nor does it deter future crimes. So what's the point?


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420] * 1
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What about the innocent lives the death penalty cost. That ok too, just so society can kill people they deem unfit to live?

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
What about the innocent lives the death penalty cost. That ok too, just so society can kill people they deem unfit to live?



Given time, Troy Davis would have won his appeal.

Saving one innocent life is worth keeping all the guilty ones alive too, just in case.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
elax420 said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Yeah its barbaric, so is offing the guy. An action that doesnt give any reprisal to the crime. You fuckin retarded or what?



Well thats what the court ordered and the family obviously didn’t push for clemency or it most likely would have been awarded.


Seig heil der furher.



What?

So it's up to the court but also up to the victim's family?

Should we just have a raffle everytime there's a case being prosecuted to see who gets to deal down the justice?




No its not up to the victims family at all but they are going to have a big impact on the case obviously. You hear all the time about victims family and even prosecutors asking for lessor sentences. Sometimes its granted some times its not, but it definitely plays an effect.


He’s trying to call other peoples character into question while calling for sympathy for a murder/rapist
Two of societies most taboo crimes all rolled up into one, with an unborn child thrown in the mix :strokebeard:

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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Its been days since he was executed. could his ghost  have walked from Ohio to my apartment in Michigan by now?  Really would hate to get ghost raped again.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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Yeah it's a dick move to rape and kill someone, that's why you don't go ahead and keep killing.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
What about the innocent lives the death penalty cost. That ok too, just so society can kill people they deem unfit to live?




What about it? There is no perfect system.


The kind of societies you are calling for end up killing a lot more innocent people than a democracy.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said:
He’s trying to call other peoples character into question while calling for sympathy



When did he call for sympathy?

Are you saying sympathy is defined by not killing a person?


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Yeah it's a dick move to rape and kill someone, that's why you don't go ahead and keep killing.




What are you supposed to do?


Cloth and feed him/isolate him from the rest of the prison population for his entire life?


Im not even a big fan of the death penalty but once again, hardly the time or the place to make this argument.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: Set]
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Set said:
elax420 said:
He’s trying to call other peoples character into question while calling for sympathy



When did he call for sympathy?

Are you saying sympathy is defined by not killing a person?




Go back 3 pages.

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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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I guess no one but me cares about getting ghost semen up their bums


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Yeah it's a dick move to rape and kill someone, that's why you don't go ahead and keep killing.




What are you supposed to do?


Cloth and feed him/isolate him from the rest of the prison population for his entire life?


Im not even a big fan of the death penalty but once again, hardly the time or the place to make this argument.



Yes. You put him behind bars for life, with or without a possibility of parole depending on the nature of the crime. In this case, no parole.


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Re: So Ohio just executed a murderer/rapist. His overdose lasted over 15 minutes before he died. [Re: elax420]
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elax420 said:
Set said:
elax420 said:
He’s trying to call other peoples character into question while calling for sympathy



When did he call for sympathy?

Are you saying sympathy is defined by not killing a person?




Go back 3 pages.



My user settings are set to 50 results per page, possibly different for yours.

So I took the time to go back and search "sympath*" through all 5 pages.  Nothing from him turned up.

I want to learn.  Link me.

Please teach me.


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