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HBWR effects
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I feel very strange on this drug. It gives me rushes of thoughts and state of mind of surreal worlds. This rare exotic ethnogen was used in Hawaiian rituals. The shaman took the seeds to visit the super natural world of the "unknown".

With Woodrose I feel as if a fractal flower was opening in my mind. A feeling of waves of static. The body load is quite bad. But its a very spiritual experience. Not for the faint of heart.

It usually takes an hour to kick in. The come up is shaky it tons of static vibes. As the trip progresses, you become more aware of the "unknown". You go deep into your mind to the greatest depths possible.

You go no where and every where.

It can bring back memories of long ago. The trip helps you connect with your existence. You are broken and build again. You become your inner minds eye. The quite you. The happy you. Many pluses of stactic that open my eyes to maximum.

Broken down into ego-bliss... Something that not many other drugs do.

But do never under mind Woodrose power. It is not a play toy. But a way to rebuild your self.

It will bring you to the lowest lows and the highest highs all at once.

You will go deep, deep, deeper till you come to all stored in your mind...



The experience is very hard to put to words. Some can be very intense.

Travel to the unknown parts of ones mind.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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^^ Never gives up! :smile:


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"Early man walked away
As modernman took control
There mind's weren't all the same
And to conquer was their goal
So he built his great empire
And he slaughtered his own kind
He died a confused man
And killed himself in his own mind"

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: Fungushungry]
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"It can bring back memories of long ago"

This i had. Not important memories...just scenes from horror movies or other unimportant things trapped in my psyche. Photographic recall detail though, they were intense.

The only thing i wonder, is if the shaman would still eat these seeds if they had access to LSD or RC's...

Actually...I could see these seed's being very productive in a ritual setting, and or a theraputic environment...too much body load to be recreationally useful..i can see why most people would be disappointed.


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GO OUTSIDE.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: PDU]
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Are there many auditory hallucinations? Like echos or hearing sounds that arent there?


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-LittlePygmyMan

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: LittlePygmyMan]
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No there arnt.


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GO OUTSIDE.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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I am unaware of any historical evidence that a. nervosa was ever used ritualistically in Hawaii or Polynesia, and I have searched. Can you provide data that shows otherwise? Thanks.

Now, morning glories and rivea corymbosa have been used for quite awhile.



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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

-Donald Rumsfeld 2/2/02 Pentagon

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: Xochitl]
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Some Helpful thoughts - (iamshaman pamphlet)

Seeds of the argyreia nervosa may have once been used in sacramental rituals in the Pacific Islands, where they were consumed by high pirests in order to reach a trance or vision question in order to communicate with supernatural realms.


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GO OUTSIDE.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: PDU]
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The supernatural realms of iamshaman marketing :smile:

Seriously, there is no physical evidence nor primary sources of such rituals ever taking place in Hawaii or Polynesia at large, past or present. And if there is evidence, no one has yet to find it. If anyone has such data, by all means, please post it.

That is not to take away from the status of a. nervosa as a plant-based entheogen as it certainly has potential. But the seeds have little, if any, historical role in shamanistic culture in the Pacific. I believe mjshroomer can concur. I can also cite Richard Evans Schultes and Albert Hofmann.

Like I said before, morning glories and rivea corymbosa on the other hand have a long history of entheogenic useage in Mexico.   

I think it is important to shatter misinformation when it comes to entheogens, that's why I am brining this up. I'll PM mjshroomer; perhaps he can chime in.


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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

-Donald Rumsfeld 2/2/02 Pentagon

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: PDU]
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Quote:
"It can bring back memories of long ago"




For my friend's first time, he did 14 with my lime-juice method. Too much. Once he peaked and we smoked two fat ass super dizzy dank blunts, he spent the next 8 hours narrating his childhood from age 4 to somewhere around 12. My other friend burned out and peaced. I decided to pass out and told him to shut the fuck up. He asked if he was going to be dead in the morning, and I told him no, and passed out. I woke up to him about ten hours later still tweaked, asking if everything was still real or if something had changed. He just got over it a few weeks ago.

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Re: HBWR effects *DELETED* [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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Post deleted by poke smot!

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: poke smot!]
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...sounds like yalll r takin toooo much drugs!
:laugh:


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Make Sure You Bring A Towel!!!
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..... You wanna get high?

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: neophyteshroomer]
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The body load from HBWR is null if you take them subligually. I took 9 seeds subligual the other night and had a very LSD-like trip, but more mellow instead of speedy.

A LOT of fun and my best HBWR trip yet. No bad side effects at all. Felt basically like somewhat dirty acid.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: bluedolphin]
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Has anyone tried something like this....?

http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Extraction/extract2.html

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: Buddrow]
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bluedolphin, most people don't take HBWR sublingually because they want to use up all of the LSA that the seeds contain.


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"But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy."

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: MisterKite]
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Well I know for fact that these seeds have spiritual roots of long ago... I can just feel it...

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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it's a fact......because you feel it..........I see.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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Yo I hate to say this, but it seems your obsession with HBWR seeds may be a bit (very?) unhealthy. No offense.


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Re: HBWR effects [Re: the free thinker]
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I just got my seeds today...but Im not sure if I want to try them..I almost want to send them back or sell them..

I have been reading but I can't seem to get all the right info all at one spot. I dont get much time on here to look around. What I need is someone to pm me or write a reply on here step by step what one should do..

Then maybe explain what may happen...

one more thing I can't seem to find info on is...can you eat some HBWD and go to a club and have fun...or do you HAVE TO STAY HOME?

please understand that I need answers..I dont get much time on here to search..thank you all for understanding..

katriz

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: katriz]
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i havent tryied it yet but i heard its totaly not a recreationnal drug so i think there is better things to take if u want to go to clubs.
. its what i have heard.

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Re: HBWR effects [Re: katriz]
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I'd never, ever take HBWR and go to a club. The mindfuck associated with a high dose? I'd never wanna be in public. Forget dancing, too, your legs will be too cramped. Any physical exertion while on them makes me want to vomit more. There's no where in a club where you can just sit down and chill and relax if you start feeling like crap (either bad trip or physical). Besides, everyone else is going to be on more fun drugs anyway.

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