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HBWR seeds 'trip report'
    #2001279 - 10/11/03 11:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

NOTE: I have not obtained these seeds from any contest or giveaway at the Shroomery; I have purcahsed these seeds from a seed company.

Ok so my seeds arive in the mail, 35 all togethar. First thing I notice is that they don't look like the seeds I usually see (like this one: http://www.erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?image=hbw/argyreia_nervosa_seeds3.jpg) but they look like this: http://www.erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?image=hbw/argyreia_nervosa_seeds5.jpg

So I get a pair of scissors out to try to scrape the fuzz off...- I don't see any fuzz. Well they feel kind of fuzzy but I don't see any fuzz. Hhhmm it would be too much of a hassle to skin each of them.

So I read around here that sublingually was the best method to dose them. I put 8 seeds in a baggy and crush it up with a can on a concrete floor. I pour the powder in a shot glass, add water, and then take the solution in my mouth and hold it in for half an hour.

9:30 I spit the solution out into the sink. The shot glass still has some seed grit in it so I repeat.

10:00 I spit the second seed grit solution out. I return only to find some seed grit still in the glass.. so I eat it. I wash it all down with water and brace myself.

10:30 I feel slightly odd, can't really explain it. Quite possibly this can be placebo.

11:00 Nothing really

11:30 Nothing at all now...

Alright so at 3:00am I decide to eat 6 seeds to see if anything happens then. I pass seeds through lighter flame for a second. I chew the seeds and quickly swallow them for their centers are bitter.

I feel nothing again.
So waht happened? My HBWR seed experience was so dissapointing. Maybe I screwed up the first time and some kind of tolerance kept me from feeling anything the second time?

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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: SixCee]
    #2001322 - 10/12/03 12:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If I were you, I would have swallowed the solution, instead of spitting it out. Try again, only don't spit anything out, and if they don't work, they might not be very good quality.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Brainsick]
    #2001342 - 10/12/03 12:34 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The best process I've been told is to take your seeds, remove the fuzzy outer skin (I used an emory board to sand off the brownish skin layer) and then put them in a spice/coffee grinder and make into a fine powder.  Mix the powder in some orange juice or yogurt and ingest.

I've yet to dose my seeds...I'm waiting til I can be around trip partners I trust for my first time on a new experience...but I'm definitely looking forward to it a lot.  :smile:

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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: SixCee]
    #2001363 - 10/12/03 12:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds to me like the seeds you received were inactive. Some vendors sell inactive seeds. The first I bought from eBay (vendor: seedrack.com ) were completely bunk. Then I got some still in their pods on the vine from a grower in Hawaii and those did the trick. It is a quite a psychedelic drug in the proper doseage but it is hard to gauge what that might be. For me, the nausea on the side simply made it not worth the trade off. The trip was mellow yet apparent, but that nausea for the first hour was just too miserable (this is the only drug out of many that has ever made me nautious).

I've never dosed sublingually, only by scraping, crushing, and soaking my seeds in Everclear for a week - followed by drinking the solution (though I was stupid and ate the seed matter too, I think that may be why I felt so sick to begin with). I recommend finding a non-polar solvent (eg. petroleum ether or if careful naphta) to treat your seeds prior to dosing.. haven't tried it prep'd that way though it seems to be your best bet in combating the nausea.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: geokills]
    #2001384 - 10/12/03 12:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Mine came from seedrack...


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: SixCee]
    #2001563 - 10/12/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

1. You need like 25+ for sublingual... I like 50... You have to hold it for an hour +. With nothing added, just powder straight.

2. Also Tap water nulls the LSA to %90...

3. Seedrack have Argyreia Speciosa seeds.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #2001598 - 10/12/03 02:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I did take 50.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: SixCee]
    #2002138 - 10/12/03 10:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

35 seed hun sound like you got some seedrack they got shit seed there no good. The only goodthing is that you did not pay a lot for them. I hope not.

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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Remut]
    #2002160 - 10/12/03 11:07 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

First of all let me say I've tried a couple of ways... and fuck sublingual.

What you need to do is scrape the fuzz of and crush the seeds up and put them in a tea bag. Tea bags have very fine mesh and won't let  small particles through the bag. Now put this in ice water for 25 minutes and stir around. The things that make you sick, glycosides, are water soluble too, but they take much longer than LSA. Cold water slows down disloving, but not of LSA because its extremely water soluble. Does this make sense? So if you are soaking your crushed seeds over night its pretty much useless because all of the glycosides have disolved in the water as well. Also, if your filteration isn't good, tiny particles of glycosides are getting into your drink. I use about 3 shotglasses worth of cold water and mix it with one of those large gatorade bottles and drink it up. no naseau a good trip is bout 12 seeds...for me atleast.



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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Rebirtha]
    #2002453 - 10/12/03 02:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Get them from innerexotics.com. I got mine for a damn good price and they worked better than I thought they would.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Rebirtha]
    #2003156 - 10/12/03 08:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Chizzou kid we have determined that the seeds are bunk.  :rolleyes: Don't have a heart attack.

EDIT: Thx Strongbad.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: SixCee]
    #2003295 - 10/12/03 09:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

WOAH yall r nuts, takin 50, thats killer man...
i wouldnt take more than 20


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: neophyteshroomer]
    #2005252 - 10/13/03 02:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hehe no I didn't take 50; I was merely replying to TheShiftingWall's stupid/dangerous/irresponsible suggestion. What a doosh bag that guy is.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: SixCee]
    #2005313 - 10/13/03 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Sublingual may me good, but I don't like to use 50 or so seeds to achieve a trip that I can get on just 7 seeds. The nausea for me isn't really that bad, and I always eat some candied ginger.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Funguy]
    #2005911 - 10/13/03 06:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

First of all, HBWR are crap. Any one with any actual experience with them will tell you this. They produce an awful coming-up nausea, cramps which last into the next day, a noticeable, confusing and depresssing come-down, and a 'high' that is characterised by extreme tiredness, nausea and very, very little in the way of visuals or spiritual enlightenment.

Second, if you insist on taking them, don't listen to theshiftingwalls. A low dosage of seeds is about 3, a medium 4-6, and a high one 7+ (courtesy of www.erowid.org). A dosage of 50, as said above, is stupid/dangerous/irresponsible.

I have one personal experience with HBWR, and wouldn't repeat it. My dosage was on an empty stomach. I ate a medium dosage. I remember quite awful nausea, painful cramps in the leg and groin area, headaches, and have very little memory of the trip. There was no euphoria. Any visuals I would describe as 'messy' and un-entertaining. And I gained absolutely no insight into anything except how I would not be taking them again.

There are much better legal hallucinogenics than HBWR, such as peyote, if you can acquire it (legal to possess that is, not consume), and fresh shrooms (ditto). Or, if you aren't concerned about the law - acid. Nothing compares to it (though I believe mescaline comes close).

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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Breed]
    #2005925 - 10/13/03 07:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Drugs effect everyone differently breed. Your SINGLE, meaning one and solely one, experience does not and will not determine the validity nor the pleasure/intensity of anyone else's trip.


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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: MisterKite]
    #2005951 - 10/13/03 07:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My comments were based on my experience combined with research presented from reputable sources, as well as others experiences.

I wouldn't feel qualified to make a statement on HBWR unless I had read about these experiences and this research.

Drugs DO affect everyone differently. However, I'll concede my opinions are directed towards HBWR when ingested in unprepared seed form. Perhaps with LSA extraction or the correct preparation certain unwanted side-effects could be eliminated.

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Re: HBWR seeds 'trip report' [Re: Breed]
    #2006486 - 10/13/03 10:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Breed,

You don't like HBWR because you had a bad experience and so did other people. Nobody is listening to me, and my method. I've posted it about 6 times and haven't seen one person on this board try it. My friends tried my method and it works well and they enjoy it. Down bring down HBWR because it wasn't prepared correctly. Thats like bringing down bud because you decided to snort it.


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Those are fake seeds, no shit you didn't trip! [Re: Rebirtha]
    #2010958 - 10/15/03 10:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You got fake HBWR seeds. They should look like the first picture, not the second. I have eaten up to 20 of the fake seeds at once with barely noticeable effects.

Sublingual works, and IMO its the best way to avoid nausea, cramping, etc.

But obviously you're going to need real seeds. Get some real ones and try the same method with 12 or 15 seeds. You WILL trip.

I can't believe all the BS advice people are giving without even noticing that those aren't real HBWR seeds...


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Re: Those are fake seeds, no shit you didn't trip! [Re: bluedolphin]
    #2016036 - 10/16/03 09:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Don't buy them from seedrack.com I made the mistake of buying them off ebay too they were really cheap. I was going to buy em off BBB but they don't have any, anyone know when they'll have some in? Or any other websites w/ good seeds? Thanks! :-)


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