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JoftheRocks
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Registered: 02/19/13
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Red Alder
#18907437 - 09/29/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When hunting for cyans, do I need to avoid red alder?
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junchieve
Eye of the tiger


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Alder is the main tree that gets chipped up in the pwn. If it's a hardwood then it's a go.
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ambc
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junchieve said: Alder is the main tree that gets chipped up in the pwn. If it's a hardwood then it's a go.
Not true this is a misconception. Trees are usually chipped up in mixed batches, you think those crews have a different trailer to throw alder, maple, ash, pine, red cedar(a false cypress actually), douglas fir, hemlock, locust, and every other tree they come across into? Usually chip beds are a mix of several species, most of the time when you see someone say they found a mushroom in "alder,pine,fir,maple,etc... chips" they really don't know and are making assumptions with little or even no evidence to back it up. The exception to this is beds of high dollar commercial wood mulch made of chemically treated douglas fir or red wood which are about the worst for any mushrooms but relatively easy to spot due to unique colors and consistency. Most woods will support woodloving Psilocybes. P. azurescens and P. cyanescens(etc...) growing in forests along the coast of Oregon and Washington are usually growing on mostly Pinus contorta (shore pine) under the grasses with Sitka spruce as the next most prominent wood in the mix. Also woody remains of scotch broom are a heavy supplier to this substrate mix. These aren't the only wood in the mix, just the largest masses in most places.
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thetonebone72
Hunter -Gatherer



Registered: 03/11/06
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Re: Red Alder [Re: ambc]
#18909543 - 09/29/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ambc said:
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junchieve said: Alder is the main tree that gets chipped up in the pwn. If it's a hardwood then it's a go.
Not true this is a misconception. Trees are usually chipped up in mixed batches, you think those crews have a different trailer to throw alder, maple, ash, pine, red cedar(a false cypress actually), douglas fir, hemlock, locust, and every other tree they come across into? Usually chip beds are a mix of several species, most of the time when you see someone say they found a mushroom in "alder,pine,fir,maple,etc... chips" they really don't know and are making assumptions with little or even no evidence to back it up. The exception to this is beds of high dollar commercial wood mulch made of chemically treated douglas fir or red wood which are about the worst for any mushrooms but relatively easy to spot due to unique colors and consistency. Most woods will support woodloving Psilocybes. P. azurescens and P. cyanescens(etc...) growing in forests along the coast of Oregon and Washington are usually growing on mostly Pinus contorta (shore pine) under the grasses with Sitka spruce as the next most prominent wood in the mix. Also woody remains of scotch broom are a heavy supplier to this substrate mix. These aren't the only wood in the mix, just the largest masses in most places.
You know your shit, ambc. I will give you +5 for coastal woodlover habitat knowledge.
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Joust
Mycotographer




Registered: 10/13/11
Posts: 13,392
Loc: WA
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thetonebone72 said:
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ambc said:
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junchieve said: Alder is the main tree that gets chipped up in the pwn. If it's a hardwood then it's a go.
Not true this is a misconception. Trees are usually chipped up in mixed batches, you think those crews have a different trailer to throw alder, maple, ash, pine, red cedar(a false cypress actually), douglas fir, hemlock, locust, and every other tree they come across into? Usually chip beds are a mix of several species, most of the time when you see someone say they found a mushroom in "alder,pine,fir,maple,etc... chips" they really don't know and are making assumptions with little or even no evidence to back it up. The exception to this is beds of high dollar commercial wood mulch made of chemically treated douglas fir or red wood which are about the worst for any mushrooms but relatively easy to spot due to unique colors and consistency. Most woods will support woodloving Psilocybes. P. azurescens and P. cyanescens(etc...) growing in forests along the coast of Oregon and Washington are usually growing on mostly Pinus contorta (shore pine) under the grasses with Sitka spruce as the next most prominent wood in the mix. Also woody remains of scotch broom are a heavy supplier to this substrate mix. These aren't the only wood in the mix, just the largest masses in most places.
You know your shit, ambc. I will give you +5 for coastal woodlover habitat knowledge.

now lets see some pics!
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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thetonebone72
Hunter -Gatherer



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Re: Red Alder [Re: Joust]
#18909592 - 09/30/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Joust said:
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thetonebone72 said:
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ambc said:
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junchieve said: Alder is the main tree that gets chipped up in the pwn. If it's a hardwood then it's a go.
Not true this is a misconception. Trees are usually chipped up in mixed batches, you think those crews have a different trailer to throw alder, maple, ash, pine, red cedar(a false cypress actually), douglas fir, hemlock, locust, and every other tree they come across into? Usually chip beds are a mix of several species, most of the time when you see someone say they found a mushroom in "alder,pine,fir,maple,etc... chips" they really don't know and are making assumptions with little or even no evidence to back it up. The exception to this is beds of high dollar commercial wood mulch made of chemically treated douglas fir or red wood which are about the worst for any mushrooms but relatively easy to spot due to unique colors and consistency. Most woods will support woodloving Psilocybes. P. azurescens and P. cyanescens(etc...) growing in forests along the coast of Oregon and Washington are usually growing on mostly Pinus contorta (shore pine) under the grasses with Sitka spruce as the next most prominent wood in the mix. Also woody remains of scotch broom are a heavy supplier to this substrate mix. These aren't the only wood in the mix, just the largest masses in most places.
You know your shit, ambc. I will give you +5 for coastal woodlover habitat knowledge.

now lets see some pics!
Here's some pics of coastal P. cyanescens growing directly off woody debris. Most likely suspects for wood are as ambc said scotch broom, shore pine or sitka spruce. Anything else would have been deposited by big storms as this is 1/4 mile inland.
 
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Joust
Mycotographer




Registered: 10/13/11
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Wow Thats amazing!
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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ambc
mycominded



Registered: 10/16/08
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Re: Red Alder [Re: ambc]
#18910075 - 09/30/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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These are all P. azurescens pics some from a few years ago, some from the end of last season, when I got a (shitty, the one on my new phone takes better pictures but has no macro mode)camera after being without for nearly three seasons.
       I used to have alot more pictures from years past, we had our old cameras and computer stolen a while back, while we were in no position to replace them. If my facebook account is still active (haven't been there in years!) I think some of my other older environmental shot's might be on there.
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ambc
mycominded



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Re: Red Alder [Re: ambc]
#18910103 - 09/30/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know your shit, ambc. I will give you +5 for coastal woodlover habitat knowledge.
Thanks! I am digging those shot's, by the way. You can really see what those rhizomorphs are grabbing onto! One year, hunting azures early in the season we were out in the grass and it was real slow going, I walked into the woods to take a piss and started finding quite a few. Most not near grass at all, Some growing off straight up logs! I often find them by following downed branches, that appear from 2 to 4 years old, to where they are buried and/or in the grass. It's a a decent trick to try when things seem to slow down to get it going again!
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