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Where should a paranoid american relocate?
    #18666607 -

It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years. I'm pretty paranoid about them going all 1984 (more so) on us. Totalitarian control, all that jazz.

Maybe it won't get that far, and the country will just schism.

But yeah, does anyone have any idea if I would be better off in canada or the UK? English speaking would be nice, but I'm open to a totally new culture. This is all hypothetical at the moment.

Drug legality gives a country bonus points. I know peyote is legal in UK so thats a biggg bonus


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666612 -

Netherlands


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666616 -

Im surprised how little Americans care about these increasing intrusions on their privacy. When the bank finally breaks and the other countries start shunning America's worthless bonds I cant imagine any of the info they've been compiling will be used for anything good.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Blazer420]
    #18666619 -

I'd move to cali or colorado by a dispensary, or just say fuck it and go to maine


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18666624 -

When I'm financially able, I plan to get the hell out and head up to Canada. Don't know specifically where, yet.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Im surprised how little Americans care about these increasing intrusions on their privacy. When the bank finally breaks and the other countries start shunning America's worthless bonds I cant imagine any of the info they've been compiling will be used for anything good.


Some of us care a great deal.

But yeah, 90% of people seems like blind sheep.

netherlands huh, I've been there before. Don't remember what the main language was tho?


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666631 -

OH yeah man i mean i wouldn't call yourself paranoid ive been planning to leave the country when i start supporting myself since i was like 12. even as a kid i could look at my class and tell you that this country is gonna flop .

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: lulz]
    #18666632 -

lulz said:
OH yeah man i mean i wouldn't call yourself paranoid ive been planning to leave the country when i start supporting myself since i was like 12. even as a kid i could look at my class and tell you that this country is gonna flop .


Same bro. I don't remember when it started but it was definitely young.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
    #18666633 -

aiyobro said:
I'd move to cali or colorado by a dispensary, or just say fuck it and go to maine


Yes, the grand old nation of Maine.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666640 -

Hey, I'm not paranoid, but we've all wanted to just get the fuck out before..

I would most likely chose California, in the south, because I am a Floridian by nature, and I love the heat and the climate...

But if she ever did hit the fan, the Baja Peninsula might be SOL

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666641 -

As far as not needing to learn a new language Canada seems like the best bet. We dont bite, and we're distinct, riding American policy isnt something were keen on.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: healing]
    #18666642 -

healing said:
aiyobro said:
I'd move to cali or colorado by a dispensary, or just say fuck it and go to maine


Yes, the grand old nation of Maine.



What's good up there except extremely cold winters, possible hurricanes, and cheap lobster?

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: healing]
    #18666643 -

If I said Canada, everyone would think I'm being a paranoid white guy:lol:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
    #18666650 -

I mean, I love the state of Georgia though... there's lots of opportunity here, good climate, away from lots of BS.. TONS of wild lands and state park lands, etc.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #18666656 -

They are relaxed bout drugs, they don't all carry guns, the minimum wage is alright, its not too crowded, they don't have that we're better then everyone else culture.

I don't like the heat, I like coolness. My air conditioner just wears me down.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 2Experimental] * 1
    #18666659 -

I agree on the canada deal, I'm literally 20 minutes from the border too :lol:

Whats with the people suggesting states in the USA? california, yeah, that'll get me out of federal jurisdiction :rofl:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
    #18666660 -

Switzerland

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
    #18666662 -

but like don't the winters get frigged cold with like feet and feet of snow?

I love the ocean, and I can handle the heat, but can you guys grow ANYTHING outdoors, like food?

you know tomatoes, beans, corn, etc?

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #18666664 -

I would suggest Europe.  There are quite a few English speaking folks there.  Some of the contries are quite lax about drugs and such.  Pot is basically legal in Czech Republic, and they have Prague to boot.  LSD flows there too.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #18666667 -

who the fuck cares dude, I can just O.d. on all the weed I'm smoking if shit heads south.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
    #18666670 -

aiyobro said:
who the fuck cares dude, I can just O.d. on all the weed I'm smoking if shit heads south.



good luck with that .


:goodluckwiththat2:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666679 -

Don't come to Australia, drug laws are strict, and the accents are barely understandable so you can count it out as an English speaking country.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: psychodelia]
    #18666685 -

yeah, eff that shit and it's shark infested, prison colony BS.

:goodluckwiththat2:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #18666700 -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland,_Maine#Honors


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
    #18666735 -

Holland they speak Dutch, it's like German. Lot's of English too.
Get your Europe on...Then you are free to float the whole continent

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18666739 -

My family does come from europe, and I mostly identify with my German and Norwegian heritage, so that would be interesting. Get back to my ancestry


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666746 -

rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years. I'm pretty paranoid about them going all 1984 (more so) on us. Totalitarian control, all that jazz.

Maybe it won't get that far, and the country will just schism.

But yeah, does anyone have any idea if I would be better off in canada or the UK? English speaking would be nice, but I'm open to a totally new culture. This is all hypothetical at the moment.

Drug legality gives a country bonus points. I know peyote is legal in UK so thats a biggg bonus


Try portugal most drugs are legal there

Holland is much more free than the UK I think regarding laws and surveilance

UK basically has cops on every street and cameras on every street, and they will bust your ass for anything

You could also just quit cellphones,internet,creditcard,google/facebook/youtube etc.
then you won't be watched as much, only in public places

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: lessismore]
    #18666750 -

mio said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years. I'm pretty paranoid about them going all 1984 (more so) on us. Totalitarian control, all that jazz.

Maybe it won't get that far, and the country will just schism.

But yeah, does anyone have any idea if I would be better off in canada or the UK? English speaking would be nice, but I'm open to a totally new culture. This is all hypothetical at the moment.

Drug legality gives a country bonus points. I know peyote is legal in UK so thats a biggg bonus


Try portugal most drugs are legal there

Holland is much more free than the UK I think regarding laws and surveilance

UK basically has cops on every street and cameras on every street, and they will bust your ass for anything


OOOH yeah, forgot about CCTV or whatever they call it...fuck that shit!

way more 1984 esque lol


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666899 -

Europe. So many countries to access then. Maybe skandanavia or spain. Then just roadtrip to Holland,  uk, france, Germany, Italy,  Austria etc etc whenever you want

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born] * 1
    #18666904 -

Go to backwoods Wyoming in one of those rural towns of 150 people that's 6 hours from a major city. You'll be completely off the grid, bruh.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
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Fire is Born said:
Europe. So many countries to access then. Maybe skandanavia or spain. Then just roadtrip to Holland,  uk, france, Germany, Italy,  Austria etc etc whenever you want


Yeah I remember when I was in europe briefly everything felt so close. 3 countries over there are the size of my state. my one of 50 states :lol:

If I lived there could I bike pretty much anywhere? :grin:
that would make me happy


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666910 -

The extreme sports scene here is massive.  If you mean road bike then sure...enjoy it's massive xD maybe a nice stroll a
cross Russia

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18666917 -

I currently live in Taiwan and am hoping to move to Thailand after making more money. I honestly don't know if I will ever live in America again. Will only come back to visit every few years. My life is without a doubt better here than in America. Now I only have to worry about getting taken out by a CIA agent for speaking ill of my government.

edit: I met a bunch of Dutch people this past trip to Thailand and they were cool as shit. I'd definitely look into going there. I'm more of a beach bum type and have my sites set on Thailand

Edited by kiss_the_sky03 (08/06/13 05:53 AM)

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666918 -

rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #18666938 -

Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


Privacy is the big one lately. The drones, the internet watching, possible phone watching.

the bill about being able to detain citizens without evidence on certain grounds, possible rights taken away. just on a whim

I think it's getting less okay to talk ill of the government too. thats pretty important.

The war is still going on. We should have a right to stop a meaningless war. I know that ones a stretch but fuck am I sick of it.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18666976 -

Also, Uruguay is making a push for marijuana legalization :yesnod:

Teaching overseas is definitely a possible way to get out of America.

I may just have to look into Uruguay. The money is in the Middle East and Asia, though...

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
    #18666986 -

China? :shrug:

I mean, they're ultimately gonna win, they have the entire civilized world outnumbered.

This user does not actually advocate relocating to a "communist" dictatorship.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #18666989 -

fuck it dude just go to siberia


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Nifflerz]
    #18667238 -

Have you seen the average euro women. ....why haven't you left yet
Go eastern Europe for a adrenaline trip and buy yo an AK47 for pennies

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18667246 -

uruaguay,belize,canadia,holland,denmark,belgium,panama,fiji,thailand


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18667259 -

Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


the right to due process.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18667261 -

Thailand would make me crazy with all the animal abuse. Cool place otherwise

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18667321 -

rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years. I'm pretty paranoid about them going all 1984 (more so) on us. Totalitarian control, all that jazz.

Maybe it won't get that far, and the country will just schism.

But yeah, does anyone have any idea if I would be better off in canada or the UK? English speaking would be nice, but I'm open to a totally new culture. This is all hypothetical at the moment.

Drug legality gives a country bonus points. I know peyote is legal in UK so thats a biggg bonus


Netherlands but you'll have to learn Dutch or you can't enter, English is the second language, being under the influence doesn't matter, if you have small amounts of drugs on you for personal use they just confiscate and let you go, i've had it happen that they just let me go :lol:... Otherwise go live in Belgium (our doors are always wide open for everyone) and go live on the border so you have the best of both worlds.

you'll be even more paranoid in the UK and the cops are ASSHOLES

Edited by Beanhead (08/06/13 09:13 AM)

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18667329 -

Fire is Born said:
Holland they speak Dutch, it's like German. Lot's of English too.
Get your Europe on...Then you are free to float the whole continent


Holland is a province.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Beanhead]
    #18667356 -

Beanhead said:
Fire is Born said:
Holland they speak Dutch, it's like German. Lot's of English too.
Get your Europe on...Then you are free to float the whole continent


Holland is a province.


Your point being?...

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18667358 -

Urguay or Canada


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #18667369 -

learning sponge said:
...belize...


:winner: 

Belize


Ya might be able to get this place pretty cheap.


:bliss: . . . :peace:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: vinsue]
    #18668352 -

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/virginia-gubernatorial-candidate-wants-outlaw-oral-sex


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18668480 -

rbalzer said:
Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


Privacy is the big one lately. The drones, the internet watching, possible phone watching.


privacy isnt something you have on the internet because you're paying for a
service to access the computers of someone else. it's like thinking you
have privacy on a busy street. drones cannot see through your walls and
they're not listening to your phone calls

Quote:
the bill about being able to detain citizens without evidence on certain grounds, possible rights taken away. just on a whim



the bill the people distorted to claim what they want you to believe

Quote:
I think it's getting less okay to talk ill of the government too. thats pretty important


really, who's been imprisoned for saying government sucks?

Quote:
The war is still going on. We should have a right to stop a meaningless war. I know that ones a stretch but fuck am I sick of it.



that's not a right, never was, you do have the right not to fight in it


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
    #18668484 -

k00laid said:
Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


the right to due process.



really? care to show the work


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18668560 -

Not the UK, definitely not the UK. Canada maybe. Best places are scandinavian countries.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 3
    #18668564 -

There's nowhere you can move where your paranoia won't follow you


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


Privacy is the big one lately. The drones, the internet watching, possible phone watching.


privacy isnt something you have on the internet because you're paying for a
service to access the computers of someone else. it's like thinking you
have privacy on a busy street. drones cannot see through your walls and
they're not listening to your phone calls

Quote:
the bill about being able to detain citizens without evidence on certain grounds, possible rights taken away. just on a whim



the bill the people distorted to claim what they want you to believe

Quote:
I think it's getting less okay to talk ill of the government too. thats pretty important


really, who's been imprisoned for saying government sucks?

Quote:
The war is still going on. We should have a right to stop a meaningless war. I know that ones a stretch but fuck am I sick of it.



that's not a right, never was, you do have the right not to fight in it


Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


Privacy is the big one lately. The drones, the internet watching, possible phone watching.


privacy isnt something you have on the internet because you're paying for a
service to access the computers of someone else. it's like thinking you
have privacy on a busy street. drones cannot see through your walls and
they're not listening to your phone calls

Quote:
the bill about being able to detain citizens without evidence on certain grounds, possible rights taken away. just on a whim



the bill the people distorted to claim what they want you to believe

Quote:
I think it's getting less okay to talk ill of the government too. thats pretty important


really, who's been imprisoned for saying government sucks?

Quote:
The war is still going on. We should have a right to stop a meaningless war. I know that ones a stretch but fuck am I sick of it.



that's not a right, never was, you do have the right not to fight in it


yeah yeah you think everything i say is retarded. But I did hear recently about some guy who exposed some shady government dealings and they got him back somehow. don't remember exactly.

You don't think the patriot act is bullshit? You don't think the government is often against its own people?


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: nicechrisman]
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How easy is it to get more then just a 3 month visa or whatever for these countries mentioned? Don't a lot of countries require you to have a solid job lined up before being granted a long-term/permanent stay or can you just really pick a country and move there? I feel like its harder then that, but I have no knowledge on this.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: TheMule73]
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TheMule73 said:
How easy is it to get more then just a 3 month visa or whatever for these countries mentioned? Don't a lot of countries require you to have a solid job lined up before being granted a long-term/permanent stay or can you just really pick a country and move there? I feel like its harder then that, but I have no knowledge on this.


Fuck, yeah I should put more thought into this :rofl:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
k00laid said:
Prisoner#1 said:
rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years.



as I keep asking, what rights are being eroded away?


the right to due process.



really? care to show the work


i can provide 10 articles in 5 minutes about people who were not given due process

to which you will reply

"its just a fluke, we still have our rights, calm down k00laid"


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
TheMule73 said:
How easy is it to get more then just a 3 month visa or whatever for these countries mentioned? Don't a lot of countries require you to have a solid job lined up before being granted a long-term/permanent stay or can you just really pick a country and move there? I feel like its harder then that, but I have no knowledge on this.


Fuck, yeah I should put more thought into this :rofl:


You can come overseas and teach in many of these countries if you have a bacelor's degree.

I'm planning on getting my official teachers certification and possibly a masters. I'd like to invest in some rental property in the states and then move to Thailand. That's the dream at least :thumbup:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Blazer420]
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Blazer420 said:
Netherlands


This.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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To the OP: if you're an American citizen, then you can live here (Micronesia) for as long as you want without visa dramas... tropical islands, warm waters, great fishing/surfing/scuba diving, totally laid back way of life, no malaria, nothing really too dangerous. Its a fairly off-the-grid kind of place - no traffic lights in the entire country, no breathalysers, no street names, no big brother...

But you also get a dysfunctional government, chronic power/water outages, shitty healthcare, limited choices in everything, crazy expats (like me) etc...


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
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kiss_the_sky03 said:
rbalzer said:
TheMule73 said:
How easy is it to get more then just a 3 month visa or whatever for these countries mentioned? Don't a lot of countries require you to have a solid job lined up before being granted a long-term/permanent stay or can you just really pick a country and move there? I feel like its harder then that, but I have no knowledge on this.


Fuck, yeah I should put more thought into this :rofl:


You can come overseas and teach in many of these countries if you have a bacelor's degree.

I'm planning on getting my official teachers certification and possibly a masters. I'd like to invest in some rental property in the states and then move to Thailand. That's the dream at least :thumbup:


Renting is such a pain in the ass. Dont do that.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
There's nowhere you can move where your paranoia won't follow you


:thumbup:

For reals though, just think of the old adage, "the grass is always greener on the other side".

If you truly want "drug freedom", and to be away from prying eyes, your best choice is to move to move to the woods, or a rural area that is not to rednecky. The west coast it pretty good for that, as I am sure other places around Colorado and the east coast(but I am unfamiliar with those areas). Stay away from big cities, find a chunk of land where you can grow your pot with a licence. Somewhere not to far that you can't hit up a good festival in a car for your other non growable substances. Close to a disc golf course would't hurt either. Don't look like a dirty hippie or a gutter punk and keep the "bad cop no doughnut" sticker of your bumper. Most importantly don't be a dumbass, basically talking to much.

The states are not that bad.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Yeah, I hear that. My best childhood friend is a real estate agent and his dad has rented property for years now. I'd kind of hope to have a property management company/my friend do all the dirty work for me. I could just be the money/idea kind of guy.

I don't know.... I'm just an idealistic 26 year old traveling English teacher right now :shrug:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said:
nicechrisman said:
There's nowhere you can move where your paranoia won't follow you


:thumbup:

For reals though, just think of the old adage, "the grass is always greener on the other side".

If you truly want "drug freedom", and to be away from prying eyes, your best choice is to move to move to the woods, or a rural area that is not to rednecky. The west coast it pretty good for that, as I am sure other places around Colorado and the east coast(but I am unfamiliar with those areas). Stay away from big cities, find a chunk of land where you can grow your pot with a licence. Somewhere not to far that you can't hit up a good festival in a car for your other non growable substances. Close to a disc golf course would't hurt either. Don't look like a dirty hippie or a gutter punk and keep the "bad cop no doughnut" sticker of your bumper. Most importantly don't be a dumbass, basically talking to much.

The states are not that bad.


The states are becoming progressively worse. We've lost pretty much all our rights with the patriot act and we all know how easy it is to be called a terrorist these days. We've lost other rights as well. Now the President can hold you indefinitely. Great. No problem.

It isn't paranoia when they really are out to get you....

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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Space Monkey said:
Canada maybe.


Gilgamesh18 said:
Canada


rbalzer said:
I agree on the canada deal, I'm literally 20 minutes from the border too :lol:




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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Patlal]
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What, you think Canada has enough drug addicts already>


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
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Why not go to backwoods of Montana (or was it Idaho? lol idk) where the unibomber went to disappear?

Go there, OP. Get yourself a cabin. But then again you'd probably start being paranoid of bears and mountain lions. Idk bro you're pretty much fucked.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
It seems that they just keep whittling away our rights little by little over the years. I'm pretty paranoid about them going all 1984 (more so) on us. Totalitarian control, all that jazz.

Maybe it won't get that far, and the country will just schism.

But yeah, does anyone have any idea if I would be better off in canada or the UK? English speaking would be nice, but I'm open to a totally new culture. This is all hypothetical at the moment.

Drug legality gives a country bonus points. I know peyote is legal in UK so thats a biggg bonus


didn't read a damn thing but peyote is also legal in canada. sorry if somebody already stated it.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
What, you think Canada has enough drug addicts already>


We already have 3.75 people per square kilometre. The country's full.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Patlal]
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Macau has 16,921 people per square kilometer and those guys seem pretty on the ball.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Uzziel]
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Uzziel said:
anunnakian said:
nicechrisman said:
There's nowhere you can move where your paranoia won't follow you


:thumbup:

For reals though, just think of the old adage, "the grass is always greener on the other side".

If you truly want "drug freedom", and to be away from prying eyes, your best choice is to move to move to the woods, or a rural area that is not to rednecky. The west coast it pretty good for that, as I am sure other places around Colorado and the east coast(but I am unfamiliar with those areas). Stay away from big cities, find a chunk of land where you can grow your pot with a licence. Somewhere not to far that you can't hit up a good festival in a car for your other non growable substances. Close to a disc golf course would't hurt either. Don't look like a dirty hippie or a gutter punk and keep the "bad cop no doughnut" sticker of your bumper. Most importantly don't be a dumbass, basically talking to much.

The states are not that bad.


The states are becoming progressively worse. We've lost pretty much all our rights with the patriot act and we all know how easy it is to be called a terrorist these days. We've lost other rights as well. Now the President can hold you indefinitely. Great. No problem.

It isn't paranoia when they really are out to get you....


Oh my... jeez, I see a cop car maybe once a week. No cameras...  They gonna get me :tinfoil:

Rand Paul 2016 !

You have to start voting locally.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said:
nicechrisman said:
There's nowhere you can move where your paranoia won't follow you


:thumbup:

For reals though, just think of the old adage, "the grass is always greener on the other side".

If you truly want "drug freedom", and to be away from prying eyes, your best choice is to move to move to the woods, or a rural area that is not to rednecky. The west coast it pretty good for that, as I am sure other places around Colorado and the east coast(but I am unfamiliar with those areas). Stay away from big cities, find a chunk of land where you can grow your pot with a licence. Somewhere not to far that you can't hit up a good festival in a car for your other non growable substances. Close to a disc golf course would't hurt either. Don't look like a dirty hippie or a gutter punk and keep the "bad cop no doughnut" sticker of your bumper. Most importantly don't be a dumbass, basically talking to much.

The states are not that bad.


Okay. One, its not all about drug freedom. I do what I do regardless of the local laws.

Two: My paranoia of the US government watching me would likely not "follow me" to other lands. I'm not crazy, just don't like the way the country is run.

Three: My way of life, and my philosophy on life, is not supported in the states. I would be leaving for the reason some of the original colonists left europe, for religious freedom.

I cannot share my 'religion' properly with people. I cannot openly talk about the things I find most interesting and puzzling. (psychedelics states, what they mean etc) This is why I do not feel "free" in america. this is why I want to leave.

Yes I am very lucky to live in a safe, food rich place. But it doesn't mean I shouldn't seek my own personal freedom to do what makes me happy.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
Macau has 16,921 people per square kilometer and those guys seem pretty on the ball.


:ifyoucanawe:

Alright then.

I'll give you an acre land north of the 70th parallel, a shotgun and 5 rounds.

Welcome to Canada


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
Three: My way of life, and my philosophy on life, is not supported in the states. I would be leaving for the reason some of the original colonists left europe, for religious freedom.

I cannot share my 'religion' properly with people. I cannot openly talk about the things I find most interesting and puzzling. (psychedelics states, what they mean etc) This is why I do not feel "free" in america. this is why I want to leave.

Yes I am very lucky to live in a safe, food rich place. But it doesn't mean I shouldn't seek my own personal freedom to do what makes me happy.


Understandable.

As far as religous freedoms... are you thinking about something like this?
http://churchoftheholylight.org/
Which is in Oregon.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said:
rbalzer said:
Three: My way of life, and my philosophy on life, is not supported in the states. I would be leaving for the reason some of the original colonists left europe, for religious freedom.

I cannot share my 'religion' properly with people. I cannot openly talk about the things I find most interesting and puzzling. (psychedelics states, what they mean etc) This is why I do not feel "free" in america. this is why I want to leave.

Yes I am very lucky to live in a safe, food rich place. But it doesn't mean I shouldn't seek my own personal freedom to do what makes me happy.


Understandable.

As far as religous freedoms... are you thinking about something like this?
http://churchoftheholylight.org/
Which is in Oregon.


thanks for that link. from what i see on the site, they seem like a lovey dovey church that does ayahuasca ceremony?

thats not too far from me. might have to pay em a visit if I ever feel lost.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
Macau has 16,921 people per square kilometer and those guys seem pretty on the ball.


Perhaps, but I bet they have to import all their nickel and asbestos.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
thanks for that link. from what i see on the site, they seem like a lovey dovey church that does ayahuasca ceremony?

thats not too far from me. might have to pay em a visit if I ever feel lost.


That is what I get from them. I have seen them in the news a bit and fought for their religious freedom to practice it.
Not to far form them eh...? I am about a 45 minute drive from there.
Was just thinking I might want to contact them, after research of course.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said:
rbalzer said:
thanks for that link. from what i see on the site, they seem like a lovey dovey church that does ayahuasca ceremony?

thats not too far from me. might have to pay em a visit if I ever feel lost.


That is what I get from them. I have seen them in the news a bit and fought for their religious freedom to practice it.
Not to far form them eh...? I am about a 45 minute drive from there.
Was just thinking I might want to contact them, after research of course.


Yeah I'll have to read more about them later for sure :thumbup:

thats sweet, I'm more like a few hours north. But I've always wanted to be friends with a shroomery member in real life :grin:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Global_Roaming]
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Global_Roaming said:
To the OP: if you're an American citizen, then you can live here (Micronesia) for as long as you want without visa dramas... tropical islands, warm waters, great fishing/surfing/scuba diving, totally laid back way of life, no malaria, nothing really too dangerous. Its a fairly off-the-grid kind of place - no traffic lights in the entire country, no breathalysers, no street names, no big brother...

But you also get a dysfunctional government, chronic power/water outages, shitty healthcare, limited choices in everything, crazy expats (like me) etc...



that sounds awesome

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
What, you think Canada has enough drug addicts already>


I AM NOT A DRUG ADDICT I AM AN AFFICIONADO!!!.<<</.dfasr34p9


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Global_Roaming]
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Global_Roaming said:
To the OP: if you're an American citizen, then you can live here (Micronesia) for as long as you want without visa dramas... tropical islands, warm waters, great fishing/surfing/scuba diving, totally laid back way of life, no malaria, nothing really too dangerous. Its a fairly off-the-grid kind of place - no traffic lights in the entire country, no breathalysers, no street names, no big brother...




So.... Do you just like, grow shrooms and weed all the time then? I would... I mean, I'm assuming that's the kind of place where you wouldn't get raided by anyone but pirates.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Eastern Kentucky; up in the mountains.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
Eastern Kentucky; up in the mountains.


Big brother getcha up there too.

Callum, dromes.

:hillbilly:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Toe_Jam said:
XUL said:
Eastern Kentucky; up in the mountains.


Big brother getcha up there too.

Callum, dromes.

:hillbilly:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18670942 -

In a world where I can medically smoke marijuana and order drugs off the internet I WILL NEVER SAY that my rights are being taken away..thats just being spoiled.

I don't have a problem with the laws or the gun thing or any of that.

What I care about is WHERE THE CASH IS GOING.


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Toe_Jam said:
Global_Roaming said:
To the OP: if you're an American citizen, then you can live here (Micronesia) for as long as you want without visa dramas... tropical islands, warm waters, great fishing/surfing/scuba diving, totally laid back way of life, no malaria, nothing really too dangerous. Its a fairly off-the-grid kind of place - no traffic lights in the entire country, no breathalysers, no street names, no big brother...




So.... Do you just like, grow shrooms and weed all the time then? I would... I mean, I'm assuming that's the kind of place where you wouldn't get raided by anyone but pirates.


:rofl: haha, pirates.

Growing & consuming shrooms... check.
Drinking lots of sakau (kava).. check.
Smoking weed... check (but haven't grown any here... yet).
Surfing, fishing, diving, snorkelling, hiking, weekends on uninhabited atolls, waterfalls... check.

Been here for the last two years - its a great lifestyle once you get the hang of it. There isn't enough of a drug problem to concern anyone (including the cops). Even though its an independent sovereign nation, the US supports this country financially (approx $100m per year - about a third of national GDP), so if you're American you may as well get your money's worth.

If anyone ever visits this place, PM me and I'll give you directions to my outdoor shroom patches (handily located near a tourist site, for your convenience).


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: XUL]
    #18671124 -

here's the thing about Eastern Kentucky...

perfect weather. no extremes.

green green green. very lush vegetation. you find land that hasn't been stripped, and it's probably some of the healthiest soil in the country.

extremely dense woods with difficult to access crevices and gorges, would make invasion by an outside force very difficult for a number of reasons.

in certain parts, the energetic protection (think ley lines, electromagnetism, etc.) is perfect. these areas would be potential energetic sanctuaries for wizards looking to ride out disturbances in the force.

some might go so far as to call it the true god's country. it's a special place and it needs to be kept under the radar. you don't talk about fight club...

that being said, the major drawback to living in such a place is all the unevolved rednecks that you'll be sharing it with. some of those unevolved rednecks become cops...you get the picture.

the local politics are all run by mostly conservative good ole boys. it's not a place where open minded, free-spirited types can come and let their freak flag fly, at least not yet...


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: greenspectral]
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i wanna get out too.

is canada really that much better?


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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rbalzer said:
yeah yeah you think everything i say is retarded.


to the contrary, I'm just trying to find out what people are claiming as
'stolen rights', most times they have no idea what is and isnt a right but
they, like myself would like to simply live without government intervention
in our lives as long as what we do brings no harm to others


Quote:
But I did hear recently about some guy who exposed some shady government dealings and they got him back somehow. don't remember exactly.


if you're referring to a 'whistle blower' then understand that there's a
path that has to be followed, you cant just leak info to the press and call
yourself a whistle blower, if that were the case then national security
would be compromised constantly by people doing this shit

Quote:
You don't think the patriot act is bullshit? You don't think the government is often against its own people?


I think the government is full of butt monkeys that act in their own
interests, that often times being wealth, power and reelection and while
everyone claims the patriot act has stripped is of some rights, it hasnt,
it's redundant legislation since everything in the patriot act has already
been passed in some form or another over tha last few hundred years, it was
already illegal to blow up building that didnt belong to you or that you
were not contracted by the owners to demolish, it was already illegal to
make a bomb and put it in a car and illegal to murder people regardless of
the reasoning. the patriot act set aside funding, created government
agencies, defined a bunch of shit and set punishments like all the other
laws have done but it hasnt stripped you of any right, it doesnt allow for
your indefinite detention without trial or anything else that violates your rights

your rights arent gone, they're very much still there, your rights can be
violated, it does happen and people sue over it and many become wealthy
because of it. even the detainees in guantanamo have been to trial and they
arent US citizens and were not on US soil, many never were and were not
when they committed their acts against the US so event they have rights


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #18672013 -

Whats your view on communism?

Nice post btw pris


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Global_Roaming]
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Global_Roaming said:
If anyone ever visits this place, PM me and I'll give you directions to my outdoor shroom patches (handily located near a tourist site, for your convenience).


What species (out of curiousity)? Is it a native, or did you make yourself a nice little outdoor grow of some sort?

Damn, I wish I could go do something like that. Sounds perfect to me, minus the water shortages, that could be a problem. My responsibilities have come to root me in place though, so probably not in this lifetime. Plus, where I'm at would be a great place to be when/if another dark age sets in.

That's another reason I couldn't go there I think though, when WWIII breaks out, or some hyper-radical local group of ethnic purists comes to power, you're basically unprotected. I doubt the U.S. govt would do too much to protect radical expatriates.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18672115 -

If you're paranoid, then I would consider that any major change in the US would shake the entire planet. There would be nowhere to run for a long time

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus]
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Menalaus said:
If you're paranoid, then I would consider that any major change in the US would shake the entire planet. There would be nowhere to run for a long time


there are plenty of places to run.

they can't police the entire world.



if you can grow/find your own food and water

you'll be golden.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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k00laid said:
Menalaus said:
If you're paranoid, then I would consider that any major change in the US would shake the entire planet. There would be nowhere to run for a long time


there are plenty of places to run.

they can't police the entire world.



if you can grow/find your own food and water

you'll be golden.


Not exactly what I mean, more along the lines of what happened when Rome fell but x100

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus]
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oh yeah itll be shitty for sure


but people survived that.

and we will survive this.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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The specie would probably survive but it would be hard times. Jumping ship and giving up on America is giving up on a brighter future for all nations, if our military did fall the whole modern way of life would be devastated by the wars which would follow.

If there's something wrong, people need to point it out and try to fix it not run away.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus]
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You can still change things while living overseas. I still have the ability to vote with the added bonus of knowing I pay nothing to the US government :shrug:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: kiss_the_sky03]
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Voting between corrupt politician A and B doesn't do much for anyone, not that everyone can really do a lot to change things for the better but we influence those around us at the least and sending out the message "the ships burning everyone jump in the water!" doesn't help.

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Menalaus said:
if our military did fall the whole modern way of life would be devastated by the wars which would follow.


:rofl:
im not concerned with america's military falling

im concerned with america's military taking over everything.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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k00laid said:
Menalaus said:
if our military did fall the whole modern way of life would be devastated by the wars which would follow.


:rofl:
im not concerned with america's military falling

im concerned with america's military taking over everything.


:whatwhat:

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Menalaus said:
Voting between corrupt politician A and B doesn't do much for anyone, not that everyone can really do a lot to change things for the better but we influence those around us at the least and sending out the message "the ships burning everyone jump in the water!" doesn't help.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sZLqsRqKFyI#at=193


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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I see what you're saying about American colonialism, but I still think the same idea applies. If things can be helped it'll be through people holding their ground and doing what little they can through the system. Running away doesn't help change foreign policy

Not trying to deprive anyone of their options though

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Menalaus said:
If things can be helped it'll be through people holding their ground and doing what little they can through the system. Running away doesn't help change foreign policy


and i understand that.

and i think right now we still do have some opportunities to stop what's happening

at some point though. i'll run, to fight another day.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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I'd probably get involved if shit hit the fan, buy a rifle and pick a side. Hard to say though, if it was just some Alex Jones martial law shit and not even a violent resistance being put up then I'd run off into the woods and say fuck everybody.

Right now there's little reason to worry though

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: TheMule73]
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TheMule73 said:
How easy is it to get more then just a 3 month visa or whatever for these countries mentioned? Don't a lot of countries require you to have a solid job lined up before being granted a long-term/permanent stay or can you just really pick a country and move there? I feel like its harder then that, but I have no knowledge on this.


Welcome to Belgium.

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Beanhead]
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Toe_Jam said:
Global_Roaming said:
If anyone ever visits this place, PM me and I'll give you directions to my outdoor shroom patches (handily located near a tourist site, for your convenience).


What species (out of curiousity)? Is it a native, or did you make yourself a nice little outdoor grow of some sort?


Just cubes - make 'em myself with spent subs. I just crumble and spread them around and within a week they pop up. Not spreading out much due to no cows, which is good.

Toe_Jam said:
That's another reason I couldn't go there I think though, when WWIII breaks out, or some hyper-radical local group of ethnic purists comes to power, you're basically unprotected. I doubt the U.S. govt would do too much to protect radical expatriates.


Very interesting topic this - too much to go into here, but to make a call on that stuff you really have to look into the geopolitical and strategic landscapes carefully. For instance, Micronesia is right by Guam (basically a major US military/missile base that covers the Korean peninsula and South China sea) and Kwajalein in the Marshall islands (another US military base with serious tracking systems), and not too far from Hawaii. Also Micronesia (zero military capability) has a treaty with the US that includes control of airspace and national defence obligations. China is right by our doorstep and continually trying to expand their sphere of influence (eg. trying to bypass Guam with direct flights into one of the Micronesian islands via a questionable business venture). Earlier this year, my corporate overlords sent me a security alert warning of nuclear attack (I'm serious), when North Korea was playing brinkmanship with South Korea (and by default, the US).

And on topic, for what its worth, I believe that the US has been accelerating the erosion of civil rights for the last 12 years; and IMO it's political apathy and a willingness to be deceived on the part of the American general population that is to blame. Poor education, corporatized media, and expert manipulation of the American national ego/psyche are contributing factors. What I see in the US (from an outsiders perspective), is the return of a form of McCarthy-ism, but the joke is on the American people because while you look in the shadows for terrorist threats, you're being led down the path of an Orwellian future, which is far more insidious than communism. I'm also willing to bet that as the US economy becomes less globally dominant (due to contraction, recession, meltdown, currency crisis, or simply due to the rise of India and China as economic powerhouses), the US Government will continue to play misdirection with the American people by whatever means they can (terrorist threats today, who knows what the mechanism will be 10 years from now - threat of environmental catastrophe maybe?)

For the record (and for the PRISM operators), I'm not anti-American, and I'm just as critical of my own home nation (Australia) but for different reasons.

Sorry for the long post - this stuff is an interest of mine...


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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thanks for that prisoner. I feel I understand your perspective much better now.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Global_Roaming]
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Global_Roaming said:
Toe_Jam said:
Global_Roaming said:
If anyone ever visits this place, PM me and I'll give you directions to my outdoor shroom patches (handily located near a tourist site, for your convenience).


What species (out of curiousity)? Is it a native, or did you make yourself a nice little outdoor grow of some sort?


Just cubes - make 'em myself with spent subs. I just crumble and spread them around and within a week they pop up. Not spreading out much due to no cows, which is good.

Toe_Jam said:
That's another reason I couldn't go there I think though, when WWIII breaks out, or some hyper-radical local group of ethnic purists comes to power, you're basically unprotected. I doubt the U.S. govt would do too much to protect radical expatriates.


Very interesting topic this - too much to go into here, but to make a call on that stuff you really have to look into the geopolitical and strategic landscapes carefully. For instance, Micronesia is right by Guam (basically a major US military/missile base that covers the Korean peninsula and South China sea) and Kwajalein in the Marshall islands (another US military base with serious tracking systems), and not too far from Hawaii. Also Micronesia (zero military capability) has a treaty with the US that includes control of airspace and national defence obligations. China is right by our doorstep and continually trying to expand their sphere of influence (eg. trying to bypass Guam with direct flights into one of the Micronesian islands via a questionable business venture). Earlier this year, my corporate overlords sent me a security alert warning of nuclear attack (I'm serious), when North Korea was playing brinkmanship with South Korea (and by default, the US).

And on topic, for what its worth, I believe that the US has been accelerating the erosion of civil rights for the last 12 years; and IMO it's political apathy and a willingness to be deceived on the part of the American general population that is to blame. Poor education, corporatized media, and expert manipulation of the American national ego/psyche are contributing factors. What I see in the US (from an outsiders perspective), is the return of a form of McCarthy-ism, but the joke is on the American people because while you look in the shadows for terrorist threats, you're being led down the path of an Orwellian future, which is far more insidious than communism. I'm also willing to bet that as the US economy becomes less globally dominant (due to contraction, recession, meltdown, currency crisis, or simply due to the rise of India and China as economic powerhouses), the US Government will continue to play misdirection with the American people by whatever means they can (terrorist threats today, who knows what the mechanism will be 10 years from now - threat of environmental catastrophe maybe?)

For the record (and for the PRISM operators), I'm not anti-American, and I'm just as critical of my own home nation (Australia) but for different reasons.

Sorry for the long post - this stuff is an interest of mine...


That was a worthwhile read, always feel free to elaborate:thumbup:

Only time will tell.

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Jesus_Animal_The said:
Whats your view on communism?

Nice post btw pris



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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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dictatorship = :tard:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Fire is Born]
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Funny you said the thing about "orwellian future" Gloabal_Roaming, I've been thinking just how relavent 1984 is recently.

Sounds like a very interesting lifestyle for sure. And who knows, you might be safer in backwoods place like that than an American city really.

I got this thing with asian women though, it'd probably cause some problems if I lived in a place like that. :evil:

Just out of curiousity, what's your issue with Austrailia? What type of accent do your neighbors have when speaking english?


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Toe_Jam said:
I got this thing with asian women though, it's probably cause some problems. :evilgrin:


Tentacles?

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus] * 1
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Aw, you got it before my ninja edit.

And yes, tentacles, whatever that means.

I'm probably too stoned to be posting... which is unbelievable here.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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I just recently learned that marijuana is totally unregulated in exactly one country on this whole planet, that country being North Korea.  I like pot, but that doesn't make me want to move to North Korea.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Toe_Jam said:
Funny you said the thing about "orwellian future" Gloabal_Roaming, I've been thinking just how relavent 1984 is recently.


We're certainly not up to face-cages yet, but IMHO the culture war has taken on that orwellian character. There is some very well-broadcast reason to feel deeply ashamed, insecure, or inadequate no matter who you are.

For that reason among many others, Micronesia sounds like fun on a bun.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Just saw a commercial on Youtube which was essencially anti-Iranian propaganda. :tinfoil:

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus]
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New Zealand.  :rockon:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: mpd]
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mpd said:
New Zealand.  :rockon:


ooh good one. hadn't considered that.


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I have some folks who live in New Zealand... they relocated there from South Africa, but regardless it is a clear improvement. :rockon: They live on a friggin' boat and they're constantly sending postcards of all the amazing pacific islands they like to visit. They swim with dolphins and shit.


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
I have some folks who live in New Zealand... they relocated there from South Africa, but regardless it is a clear improvement. :rockon: They live on a friggin' boat and they're constantly sending postcards of all the amazing pacific islands they like to visit. They swim with dolphins and shit.


kayaking between small islands would be like a dream for me.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus]
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Menalaus said:
Just saw a commercial on Youtube which was essencially anti-Iranian propaganda. :tinfoil:



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16980496#16980496


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
I have some folks who live in New Zealand... they relocated there from South Africa, but regardless it is a clear improvement. :rockon: They live on a friggin' boat and they're constantly sending postcards of all the amazing pacific islands they like to visit. They swim with dolphins and shit.


Do the dolphins ever take exception to those people swimming and pooping around them?


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: mpd]
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George Orwell in fact would have hated the use of the word Orwellian.

In many of his essays and letters Orwell criticised words with formally precise definitions being used badly and the vague slide in meaning for many of these words. He was a fierce critic of Fascism but he would freely mock the promiscuous use of the word:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: The Inner Eye]
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:jokerclap:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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k00laid said:
Menalaus said:
Just saw a commercial on Youtube which was essencially anti-Iranian propaganda. :tinfoil:



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16980496#16980496


Personally I don't believe in shills, not on a forum like this at least. The youtube commercial was really creepy though, sure everyone will see it soon enough

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: mpd]
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mpd said:
BlindSophist said:
I have some folks who live in New Zealand... they relocated there from South Africa, but regardless it is a clear improvement. :rockon: They live on a friggin' boat and they're constantly sending postcards of all the amazing pacific islands they like to visit. They swim with dolphins and shit.


Do the dolphins ever take exception to those people swimming and pooping around them?


I never see any other people in these pictures, so I think the dolphins are pretty much just excited to have some company. Let's not forget, dolphins poop in their own water. I'm sure human poop would be more interesting than obnoxious.


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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One time I was at the beach and saw some poop floating in the water

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Menalaus said:
One time I was at the beach and saw some poop floating in the water


I see you opted out of ratings... Nice move.


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Toe_Jam said:
Menalaus said:
One time I was at the beach and saw some poop floating in the water


I see you opted out of ratings... Nice move.


:lol: thanks I agree, want to be the first to cry about it?

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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Menalaus]
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Menalaus said:
Toe_Jam said:
Menalaus said:
One time I was at the beach and saw some poop floating in the water


I see you opted out of ratings... Nice move.


:lol: thanks I agree, want to be the first to cry about it?


Someone's crying?

Have fun being a :underage: :classictroll:.

Try not to let mommy find your PF Tek and bong.

Who am I kidding, PF Tek is probably too advanced for you. :lol:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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stop melting


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: k00laid]
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k00laid said:
stop melting


stop posting


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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Toe_Jam said:
k00laid said:
stop melting


stop posting


stop posting


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
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My bad I'm not in the 10,000 post club, I forgot.


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Toe_Jam]
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:megusta:


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
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Went from Looney tunes to Spongebob...


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Re: Where should a paranoid american relocate? [Re: Konyap]
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Where should a paranoid american relocate?

The answer is obvious.  Zimbabwe or Myanmar


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Stop flaming. This isn't OTD.


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