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Offlinepattern
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Whats Really Happening in Iraq
    #1825804 - 08/18/03 01:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

No go for ?Saddam Elvis? posters
Pentagon nixes colonel?s idea to flush out his supporters

http://www.msnbc.com/news/953618.asp?0cv=CB20

:wtf:

Aug. 18 ? U.S. military officials told NBC News that posters of Saddam Hussein dressed as celebrities such as Elvis Presley and Zsa Zsa Gabor will not be posted in Saddam?s hometown in an effort to flush out his supporters.

?WE?RE GOING to do something devious with these,? a chuckling Lieutenant-Colonel Steve Russell said last week, as he checked out a range of spoof Saddam pictures taken from the Internet.

?Most of the locals will love ?em and they?ll be laughing,? he said according to a Reuters report. ?But the bad guys are going to be upset, which will just make it easier for us to know who they are.?

But the military officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the computer-crafted posters were never officially sanctioned and that troops were being told to stop producing the images.

Central Command has produced images of Saddam in various disguises. Those images can be found online at the Central command website.
     
LOOKING FOR BAIT

Russell, whose 1st Battalion, 22nd Regiment is spearheading the 4th Infantry Division?s search for the deposed leader, reportedly had hoped to have the posters slapped up on walls around Tikrit from Monday.

Apparently intimidated by the U.S. Army?s heavy presence around town, more and more guerrillas are stashing their weapons and keeping a low profile, U.S. commanders say.

U.S. forces are trying to flush them out and hunt them while they can. One tactic Russell and his team uses is to make themselves the bait. On most nights, Humvees packed with soldiers will drive up and down what has been dubbed ?RPG Alley? to try to attract fire from locals armed with rocket-propelled grenades.

While that has had some success in recent weeks, Russell turned to the poster campaign to see if he could taunt Saddam loyalists into showing their faces.

Officers from the 4th Infantry?s psychological operations unit say it is not necessarily a bad idea, although they tend to favor more subtle leaflet drops.

?It?s mostly good for troop morale, but if we can put these posters up in Tikrit and the enemy can?t take them down, then at least it shows who owns the streets,? said Sgt. David Cade, a psychological operations specialist.
     
OFFENSIVE STRATEGY?

Yet while the posters might have helped divide locals into the amused and the infuriated, they also ran a serious risk of stoking fury among ordinary Iraqis who may not be pro-Saddam but still will not accept the idea of the Americans poking fun.

One of the posters showed Saddam?s head on Elvis?s dancing body, a gold crucifix hanging around his hairy chest.

Given fears in the Arab world that the invasion of Iraq was akin to a Christian crusade, some Iraqis say U.S. forces would do well to think twice about leaving the cross hanging around Saddam Elvis?s neck.

?Maybe it is funny for the soldiers, but I think most locals will find it very insulting,? said Uday, a 22-year-old working as a translator at the U.S. army base in Tikrit.   

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So... anyone got a snapshot of these pics?   


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: pattern]
    #1825831 - 08/18/03 01:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Uh, OK. How does that show what's really going on in Iraq? I agree that the one with the cross would be a bad idea, BTW.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: shakta]
    #1825854 - 08/18/03 01:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

> How does that show what's really going on in Iraq?

It doesn't show, that's why I'm asking for pics.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: pattern]
    #1825891 - 08/18/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I have lots of pics of Iraq, but none of those posters. Mostly just buddies of mine in various places.



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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
    #1825895 - 08/18/03 01:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Cool, are your buddies in the military? I'd like to see some pics!


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: pattern]
    #1825908 - 08/18/03 01:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Most of the pics aren't that interesting, but some are cool.

Here's the only one I have online right now(my girlfriend's nephew):



msnbc.com has a lot of great photos.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
    #1826296 - 08/18/03 03:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome. Those swords are cool.

I agree, msnbc is the best photo source... very colorful + high quality. Here is a link:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/846463.asp?0cl=c4


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: pattern]
    #1826638 - 08/18/03 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what a bunch of fucking loonies...


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: pattern]
    #1826654 - 08/18/03 04:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The company that made those swords actually put Hussein's fingerprints on the hands. They discovered that they still have a copy of the prints in their safe, probably the only copy in existence.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: Strumpling]
    #1826663 - 08/18/03 04:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That guy in the pic looks dumb as a brick...and could prolly break one over his head too.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1826682 - 08/18/03 04:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

He's not dumb by any stretch of the imagination, but yeah he's a big motherfucker.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
    #1828454 - 08/19/03 02:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

hey man I'm sorry I was just replying to Pattern's original post.. I hope you didn't think I was talking about you or your girlfriend's nephew... heh whoops.


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: Strumpling]
    #1829143 - 08/19/03 11:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

looks like you replied to the right person, don't sweat it.

I won't send Sgt. Matt over to break bricks over your head :smile:


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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: Strumpling]
    #1829255 - 08/19/03 12:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Strumpling said:
what a bunch of fucking loonies...






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Re: Whats Really Happening in Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
    #1832112 - 08/20/03 03:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

that's weird; my name's Matt :wink:


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