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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist] * 3
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Herbologist said:
Cool story bro.



Definitely sounds like you have a lot of well-informed things to say against GMOs.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: The_Aviator]
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Nah i eat real food

svs you never have anything informational, so idk what youre even saying.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist] * 3
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Herbologist said:
Cool story bro.

I dont want that shit in my food.


Over 8% of your own genetic code has been directly modified by viruses. The rest of your DNA has all been modified by evolution. This also goes for every currently living organism, including plants. All "real food" of today has been genetically modified for millions of years.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about, which would be fine if you weren't so adamant about it.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist] * 4
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Yeah, I'm not at all surprised that you don't understand what I'm saying.
:stupid:


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: something super extreme]
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lol god svs troll of the year.

im not here to change minds.

enjoy your shit food


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: something super extreme] * 2
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Some day I'm going to grow a bunch of GMO food that is enhanced for taste and nutritional value. Then I'm going to make a huge delicious meal for a bunch of hippies and reveal to them that it was GM after they eat it.

And yeah I hate Monsanto for their business practices but I'm very strongly pro-GMO. Because I can actually understand genetic modification.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist] * 2
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"ur a troll"; the first line of defense by someone with absolutely nothing else to go on.
Enjoy being stupid.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: something super extreme]
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sVs said:
"ur a troll"; the first line of defense by someone with absolutely nothing else to go on.
Enjoy being stupid.



:lolsy:


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist] * 4
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B.. b.. b.. bbbut my orange is so big and delicious. My mind can't comprehend how this works, so it must be the work of SATAN and his trolls :headbang:


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist]
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tymoteusz3 said:
Mykes logos said:
like maybe shroomerites who may be double majors in environmental studies and biology and are a year away from graduating... or who have also spent hundreds of hours researching and writing papers on this topic and gardening in permaculture gardens or something...

oh, wait, that's me...

hopefully someone intelligent can share a discussion with me about this and talk about what they're doing with the group in their town/city.


You evidently did not study your biology too well if you don't understand the science behind GMOs..
I would LOVE to read your papers on this topic - by all means link them..


When did I say "All GMOs are bad and this is what this thread is about"???

I know very well what GMOs are... and not all are bad. This thread is about other things... like requiring labeling in supermarkets, and how pesticide companies sell stuff that's illegal in the US to other countries like costa rica and mexico cause its either not illegal or not regulated properly...

for example, we organically and sustainably grow our own bananas here in SWFL because the Dole supermarket varieties are grown with heavy pesticide use in Mexico and Costa Rica that has made many of their domestic and foreign workers sterile and shit and has ruined the health and biodiversity of coastal inland ecosystems

please stay off of this thread unless you have something to contribute to the conversation.

And you're a mod... you should be setting an example and not flaming.

Maybe this thread is in the wrong place? I don't come to the pub much... so please tell me now if me and my topic is not welcome here.

I didn't realize this was the flaming forum...

cheers
ganjfather said:
Mykes logos said:
sVs said:
Oh yeah, everyone's clearly less intelligent than you, yet you're up in arms over something you clearly can't understand.
Sounds pretty fucking reasonable.


When did I say I'm more intelligent than everyone? I was just throwing out my experience so that flamers like you can be like "oh, he's not just some hippy stoner kid who doesn't understand this topic"...

I assume you opted out of the rating system because you're a troll and a flamer.

You're currently spewing shit on a thread just to be an asshole.

Please stop.

I'm looking forward to what others have to say about the march on the 25th in their town/city... also up for intelligent discussion about what's going on.

cheers from:sunny:FL





Here's an intelligent discussion, your conspiracy theory holds no validation. Quit being a scared and misinformed.


I'm not scared and misinformed... I think you may be misinformed. People like me will stand up and fight for yours and your family's rights to safe and healthy food while you're asleep and apathetic.

This thread isn't about "how GMOs are sooo bad"... this is more than GMOs...

please leave the thread if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
sVs said:
But GMO sounds pretty scary, and I've (almost) gotten a degree in something vague and useless from my prestigious community college, so I know everything about it.

:kingtard:


Herbologist said:
Genetically Modified.

That disgusts me.  I dont need a big fucking chicken or salmon.

I'll take my GRAIN free and ORGANIC food, thanks.


Oh Jesus, you fucking hippy types are just the worst sort of people.


sVs, you have no idea what I do in school. What we're studying and what we do after school is actually decently prestigious and respected in society and in the scientific community.

What I actually do is study sustainability and conservation, remove exotic and invasive species, educate children and lead elementary school hike in local nature parks, and I'm working towards my permaculture design certification...

I mean well. I don't understand the hostility on here.

Go to OTD or something...

Herbologist said:
lol god svs troll of the year.

im not here to change minds.

enjoy your shit food


I, however, am here to change minds. We need to educate others and ignore the bs, Herbologist...

Stay on the thread and talk :hatsoff:

Let's ignore the trolls and flames and actually start a discussion here...

cheers


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Mykes logos]
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Of course, OP.

Id be more then happy to discuss it with you, do you happen to have an instagram? Say_no_to_gmo is incredibily informational. I dont understand the hostility either, bunch of haters up in here


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist] * 2
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Let's ignore the trolls and flames and actually start a discussion here...


We've been trying to start a discussion. Trolling is when you make a claim and refuse to intelligently discuss it.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist]
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ganjfather said:
B.. b.. b.. bbbut my orange is so big and delicious. My mind can't comprehend how this works, so it must be the work of SATAN and his trolls :headbang:


Well the citrus industry is forced to use pesticides these days. citrus canker and greening are huge problems, and according to my friends at the USDA here in SWFL, if we don't find a way to get rid of these pests (many of which originate in China and shit), the south FL citrus industry will basically collapse in 10 or 15 years.

Plant quarantine technicians are good people to know... and they can also bring you some HUGE Ganoderma from the groves haha... which is another problem in itself... :strokebeard:

It's upsetting to think that these pesticides have basically just bottlenecked pest populations, and the surviving members have genes that make them resistant... we're creating super bugs, you know?

By supporting Monsanto and their pesticides, our national food industry is getting dangerously close to relying on chemicals and GMOs. Many GMOs, in plant varieties that is, aren't as healthy for you and because they require all kinds of pesticides, they aren't sustainable.

Also, the whole ordeal takes a serious toll on natural ecosystems and their water quality. That's a huge deal in south Florida.

Does anyone else have anything to say about citrus? I've never heard much about California if anyone knows anything about what's going on there.
Herbologist said:
Of course, OP.

Id be more then happy to discuss it with you, do you happen to have an instagram? Say_no_to_gmo is incredibily informational. I dont understand the hostility either, bunch of haters up in here


:thumbup:

ignore the haters... they just want attention and a place to vent. The shroomery isn't psychotherapy, folks :rofl:

I actually don't have instagram... do they have a facebook? I'm looking it up now :grin:


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Herbologist]
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say_no_to_gmo... sounds like they are unbiased and interested in facts :rolleyes:

http://cera-gmc.org/index.php?action=gm_crop_database


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: The_Aviator]
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The_Aviator said:
Some day I'm going to grow a bunch of GMO food that is enhanced for taste and nutritional value. Then I'm going to make a huge delicious meal for a bunch of hippies and reveal to them that it was GM after they eat it.

And yeah I hate Monsanto for their business practices but I'm very strongly pro-GMO. Because I can actually understand genetic modification.


Tell us all about genetic modifications in food production. Plants, animals?

Please explain, I'd love to read what you have to share :cool::thumbup:

:popcorn:


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Mykes logos]
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Mykes logos said:
ganjfather said:
B.. b.. b.. bbbut my orange is so big and delicious. My mind can't comprehend how this works, so it must be the work of SATAN and his trolls :headbang:


Well the citrus industry is forced to use pesticides these days. citrus canker and greening are huge problems, and according to my friends at the USDA here in SWFL, if we don't find a way to get rid of these pests (many of which originate in China and shit), the south FL citrus industry will basically collapse in 10 or 15 years.

Plant quarantine technicians are good people to know... and they can also bring you some HUGE Ganoderma from the groves haha... which is another problem in itself... :strokebeard:

It's upsetting to think that these pesticides have basically just bottlenecked pest populations, and the surviving members have genes that make them resistant... we're creating super bugs, you know?

By supporting Monsanto and their pesticides, our national food industry is getting dangerously close to relying on chemicals and GMOs. Many GMOs, in plant varieties that is, aren't as healthy for you and because they require all kinds of pesticides, they aren't sustainable.

Also, the whole ordeal takes a serious toll on natural ecosystems and their water quality. That's a huge deal in south Florida.

Does anyone else have anything to say about citrus? I've never heard much about California if anyone knows anything about what's going on there.
Herbologist said:
Of course, OP.

Id be more then happy to discuss it with you, do you happen to have an instagram? Say_no_to_gmo is incredibily informational. I dont understand the hostility either, bunch of haters up in here


:thumbup:

ignore the haters... they just want attention and a place to vent. The shroomery isn't psychotherapy, folks :rofl:

I actually don't have instagram... do they have a facebook? I'm looking it up now :grin:


They may have a facebook? https://www.facebook.com/NOtogmos?fref=ts

Maybe thats it, they know their stuff ( atleast on instagram ) and will source their info


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Mykes logos] * 3
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Mykes logos said:
I know very well what GMOs are... and not all are bad. This thread is about other things... like requiring labeling in supermarkets, and how pesticide companies sell stuff that's illegal in the US to other countries like costa rica and mexico cause its either not illegal or not regulated properly...



Ok - you are going off on a tangent. You realize that most GMO food allows LESS pesticide / herbicide use? So not really sure what the pesticide companies are doing in your rant about GMOs.
How does Monsanto have anything to do with labeling in the supermakets?? You made a thread saying "March against Monsanto" - so what are you upset about Monsanto for? For being another corporate company? Monsanto may not be the best company in the world but it's the way most companies are :shrug:


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for example, we organically and sustainably grow our own bananas here in SWFL because the Dole supermarket varieties are grown with heavy pesticide use in Mexico and Costa Rica that has made many of their domestic and foreign workers sterile and shit and has ruined the health and biodiversity of coastal inland ecosystems



Organic food is not sustainable. As someone who "has a major in biology" you should know this.

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please stay off of this thread unless you have something to contribute to the conversation.



Translated as "please stay out of my thread unless you agree with me".

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And you're a mod... you should be setting an example and not flaming.



Please point to me exactly where I flamed you.

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Maybe this thread is in the wrong place? I don't come to the pub much... so please tell me now if me and my topic is not welcome here.



I don't know. Do you wish to have an honest debate? Or do you just want everyone to agree with you. If the latter is the case as I suspect, then no, you probably won't have much fun here.

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I didn't realize this was the flaming forum...



Point out the flames. People disagreeing with you is not flaming.

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I'm not scared and misinformed... I think you may be misinformed. People like me will stand up and fight for yours and your family's rights to safe and healthy food while you're asleep and apathetic.



:blah:

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This thread isn't about "how GMOs are sooo bad"... this is more than GMOs...



See my first response at the top of this post.

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Let's ignore the trolls and flames and actually start a discussion here...

cheers


Yes let's - why do you keep on calling everyone who disagrees with you trolls and flamers though? That isn't the way to have a discussion. At least not an honest one.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
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Monsanto is fucking evil, reasons:

-Terminator gene
-Indian suicides
-Crop dusting inoculation of patented substrains
-General douchebaggery

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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: Mykes logos] * 2
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Mykes logos said:
Well the citrus industry is forced to use pesticides these days. citrus canker and greening are huge problems, and according to my friends at the USDA here in SWFL, if we don't find a way to get rid of these pests (many of which originate in China and shit), the south FL citrus industry will basically collapse in 10 or 15 years.



This has nothing to do with GMOs.
Also... have you ever heard of the fallacy appeal from authority?

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By supporting Monsanto and their pesticides, our national food industry is getting dangerously close to relying on chemicals and GMOs.



Monsanto is NOT the only pesticide or herbicide company - there are many many more, and larger ones.

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Many GMOs, in plant varieties that is, aren't as healthy for you and because they require all kinds of pesticides, they aren't sustainable.



Really? All evidence points to the contrary.


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Re: March Against Monsanto May 25 [Re: The_Aviator] * 2
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A lot of the genetic modifications change the expression of proteins in a way that decreases the amounts of pesticides required.

What do you want to know specifically? Most people seem to think that genetic modification is splicing random genes all willy-nilly. But in reality it is a highly controlled process of reverse transcription of specific genes that are of well-known functions and genetic interactions. Read about how five patients had their cancers cured (or at least extremely restricted) using new genetic modification practices:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/cancer-halted-in-five-patients-after-treatment-with-own-genetically-modified-cells-8544693.html

In B4 "it's a Monsanto conspiracy!"
http://www.skepticblog.org/2012/11/08/argumentum-ad-monsantium/


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