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tweekingTwak
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Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

#18091495 - 04/11/13 01:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

growing in mulch
the clear gym smells like the classic gym while the other one sorta like one but a bit sweet and tasted really messed up , i think it got sprayed with lawn chems, the mulch stuff was really tiny mostly pins

i didnt have a camera handy but will get pictures in two days.

they make me think of sapineus

sample one a clear gym

i had a dried pin but it feel thru a tiny hole in the box i put it in. no real signs of bluing tho , gona check the pins in a few days

not quite sure
and on lawn

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18091545 - 04/11/13 01:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

was the first one growing on the mulch and the others on the lawn or vice versa??

1 might be Gymnopilus.
a better picture would help...
but there appears to be a rusty brown veil.
was this gorwing in the lawn??
were there trees nearby??

the second ones look like a Hypholoma species.
mulch or lawn??

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18093091 - 04/11/13 07:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

yeah thats what i was going for lawn one Hypholoma i was gona say it reminds me alot of sulfer turf but looks different similar very similar but different species for sure. its lawn spores were almost black looking on the cap but i could totally side with dark brown they arnt dropping on the slide

the first one is a gym 100% the smell right the hypholoma smell sweeter and lack that proper gym smell. im letting the gym grow now ill go back in 2 days, the pins were gym like the pin better shows what it is, it taste right too. totally has veil

yeah i doubted they could be the same species but just wanted the confirmation. ill update when i get the gyms which are mulch. im really not used to gyms in mulch i only used to see em on trees or stumps. now ovoids i some times see em on lawn bordering mulch , wine caps too , but rare

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18093176 - 04/11/13 07:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Pholiota species is possible also.
The gills look off for Gymnopilus IMHO.

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18095999 - 04/12/13 08:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the first one could definitely be Pholiota spumosa...

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#18097363 - 04/12/13 03:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

do Pholiota have the gym like smell from my experience Pholiota's smell different

the one u mentioned no way.

i guess for me , i may sound stupid or what ever by gyms never get all pale or flimsy and what not after picked they they stay strong, firm and orange and sometimes get blue green my highly potent Big L gyms didnt turn blue until after 3 and a half weeks, being kept in a fridge or hat box that breathes its important to let em breath

it became increasing apparent what it as they got all pale and looked like the sulfur tho i dont think they are that species just really similar

btw they are in now way spumosa i looked at them in different stages of growth

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18097755 - 04/12/13 05:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Unfortunately your photos aren't of sufficient quality to tell for sure. Any better photo of the gills? Get a spore print?

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18098119 - 04/12/13 06:25 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

tweekingTwak said:

do Pholiota have the gym like smell from my experience Pholiota's smell different

the one u mentioned no way.

i guess for me , i may sound stupid or what ever by gyms never get all pale or flimsy and what not after picked they they stay strong, firm and orange and sometimes get blue green my highly potent Big L gyms didnt turn blue until after 3 and a half weeks, being kept in a fridge or hat box that breathes its important to let em breath

it became increasing apparent what it as they got all pale and looked like the sulfur tho i dont think they are that species just really similar

btw they are in now way spumosa i looked at them in different stages of growth

Your wishful thinking worries me a little. I don't want to see you get hurt. I doubt your mushrooms are a Gymnopilus sp. but do as you will. If they were Gymnopilus the gills would be a much brighter orange color, those gills looks dirty brown to me. :shrug:

:shrug:

Be careful my friend.

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#18099875 - 04/12/13 11:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

ok ok looking at pix of MO of spumosa kinda do fit it abit but not other images

its not that gills that look funny to me as much as the cap

only only experienced with Big L gyms and luetes and some red one i wish i took better pictures and spore collection for identification. they were really strong with hard visuals.

i have never eaten a gym that wasnt active to use the worse possible picture of my first gym find

any who here you go i gona have change my mind now seeing how the cap looks but i could be wrong they are pretty immature to try to get spores so ill wait

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Re: Unknown Gym plus looks like a gym?

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#18100518 - 04/13/13 02:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

maynardjameskeenan said:

tweekingTwak said:

do Pholiota have the gym like smell from my experience Pholiota's smell different

the one u mentioned no way.

i guess for me , i may sound stupid or what ever by gyms never get all pale or flimsy and what not after picked they they stay strong, firm and orange and sometimes get blue green my highly potent Big L gyms didnt turn blue until after 3 and a half weeks, being kept in a fridge or hat box that breathes its important to let em breath

it became increasing apparent what it as they got all pale and looked like the sulfur tho i dont think they are that species just really similar

btw they are in now way spumosa i looked at them in different stages of growth

Your wishful thinking worries me a little. I don't want to see you get hurt. I doubt your mushrooms are a Gymnopilus sp. but do as you will. If they were Gymnopilus the gills would be a much brighter orange color, those gills looks dirty brown to me.
Be careful my friend.

good advice my friend. funny though for years i was scared of Pholiotas and it turns out some of them and relatives( Keuhneromyces) are edible and actually cultivated! blew me away! :lol:

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#18108756 - 04/14/13 05:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

personally i wouldnt try to form any conclusion with out the spores and consider it to hard to say granted theirs so many types of gyms

so far i have seen 3 species of inactive gyms i never encountered here before and yes orange spores

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#18108766 - 04/14/13 05:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Pholiota.

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#18108772 - 04/14/13 05:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

your going by how smooth the cap is right?

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#18108783 - 04/14/13 05:49 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeh maybe something like or close to Pholiota spumosa. :shrug:

:shrug:

if you have good specimens i will look at them for you.

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#18108803 - 04/14/13 05:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

LoL i dont care too much granted they dont look the slightest bit edible, its what i hate about gyms here so far i havent found any good ones, tho i can make dye right :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

u ever make dye with gyms. i used some of those big dry ones in that picture to make a really really nice golden dye

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