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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Absent Minded]
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absolutely man, I feel you on that. No one wouldn't be pissed about having that on their house.
The thing is, there's almost a "code of conduct" amongst graffiti writers - not writing on private property is one of them - publically owned property, like anything owned by the city/town however is fair game.
It's only the gang idiots that write on people's houses.
Either way those last two pictures I posted above the gang are on legal walls (walls a business owner/city allows people to paint on). The amount of time it takes to put those up is unreal. It can take all day in some cases.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Absent Minded]
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Theres a shop a few blocks from me thats all tagging graphitti hip hop lifestyle and he tagged the shit out of his shop and it looks cool and all and hes a super rad guy whos just an artist not some gangster. I just think its something i wont understand. Do on the otherhand love the code of ethics not to fuck with private property


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: uber_aj]
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uber_aj said:
I agree with a lot of what SoreSpore said, but I still support the act of tasteful vandalism and graffiti, especially on marketing/advertisements. The kids who practice their shitty noob tags should do it on paper/cardboard though.

I'm glad that I live in a city that is graffiti friendly and I enjoy seeing good art wherever it is.



yeah no doubt. again, it's the few idiots that give everyone a bad name.
Any self respecting writer practices for upwards of a year at home just getting their handstyle/can control/name/style down before hitting the streets. you can always tell the kids that decide one day "gonna do graff, lol" and ruin a city with shit tags and the new kids that start showing up that look....actually good. haha.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Absent Minded]
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Absent Minded said:
absolutely man, I feel you on that. No one wouldn't be pissed about having that on their house.
The thing is, there's almost a "code of conduct" amongst graffiti writers - not writing on private property is one of them - publically owned property, like anything owned by the city/town however is fair game.
It's only the gang idiots that write on people's houses.
Either way those last two pictures I posted above the gang are on legal walls (walls a business owner/city allows people to paint on). The amount of time it takes to put those up is unreal. It can take all day in some cases.



I mostly agree.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: imachavel] * 1
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imachavel said:
Absent Minded said:
absolutely man, I feel you on that. No one wouldn't be pissed about having that on their house.
The thing is, there's almost a "code of conduct" amongst graffiti writers - not writing on private property is one of them - publically owned property, like anything owned by the city/town however is fair game.
It's only the gang idiots that write on people's houses.
Either way those last two pictures I posted above the gang are on legal walls (walls a business owner/city allows people to paint on). The amount of time it takes to put those up is unreal. It can take all day in some cases.



I mostly agree.




Same here....


I do not agree with tagging or throwin some graf onto houses or a private business, etc....And I can not stand the people that will tag or spray on something just for the sake of "defacing". I have a wall near my house that is part of the city, every once in a while some kids come through and lay some horrible tags and shitty kindergarten characters on it. If they were a bit more artistically inclined, it wouldn't bother me what so ever, but it seems like they're out just to cause destruction, rather than making art...then that leads to the ol' questions of, "what is art?".


Seems like most proper graf artist utilize urban & industrial spaces that are bland & dilapidated...adding some color, life, & art to a space that was once boring and an eyesore. I'm all for that....Man has always left his mark.











I recently went to an underground exhibition featuring a number of prolific street artists from the Oakland/San Francisco Bay Area. Maybe it is just the progressive & liberalness of the area, but thousands of people showed up from all walks of life. From young hipsters to old gray folk, even families, and parents that brought their kids out. It was a beautiful sight and the energy/vibes in the place was awesome, people smoking, drinking, dancing, conversing, & otherwise admiring the art that covered every nook & cranny of the place....Here are some pics, video, and a review.....


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"On Saturday night, September 8, 2012, I and thousands of others witnessed the concrete and steel ruin that is Carbon Warehouse in the old Flint Ink building at 1350 Fourth Street, Berkeley return to technicolor life as a free, underground art gallery.

For hours, we gawked at the fabulous graffiti that covered close to every inch of the building, with music, beer and wine, and an electric atmosphere that should make world art hubs like London, Berlin and Venice blush.

The floor, the walls, the ceiling and sundry nooks and crannies were painted with explosive colors, designs and styles. Many works displayed wit, wildness and undeniable artistry. We gazed upwards to espy the livid ceiling of this crazy, cement Sistine, then we gazed down to follow the lushly sprays of color at our feet. Meanwhile, the building and its inhabitants trembled as the freight trains--many adorned by the same art sheltered now inside the building--roared by below.

This once-abandoned trilevel factory seemed happy to be hosting thousands of equally colorful guests busy drinking in the art in 3D, dancing, flirting, posing, snap-shooting and juggling, all self-regulated, well-behaved and paying close attention to what they saw.

From where I stand, the project as a whole suggests a rare mindfulness and was executed expertly and with foresight. The City of Berkeley and the police seems to have played a welcome role in facilitating this art event by keeping a very low profile and just letting folks do their stuff.

Neither was this an LA-style, Eli Broadish splash for the rich and pretentious, or some rarified and ultimately impotent extravaganza. This was a grassroots, super-collaborative public tryst between artists and their audience, a rare bird in a cynical, corporate art world that should be nurtured.

Sadly, after the event, a tiny handful of uninspired, vandalous fools are reported to have tagged a few buildings in West Berkeley, leaving an unfortunate hair in the mouth of a community that had so enjoyed an otherwise delicious art feast.

Yet, none were among the artists that awed us that night. And none have the right to distract us from thanking everyone that helped artwork blossom before our eyes in this enjoyable, provocative way.
Because, on that night, Berkeley appeared talented, fearless and exciting, and in a humble, inclusive way, a bastion of public art."


























more pics @ http://www.fecalface.com/SF/index.php/good-stuff/4728-special-delivery-by-endless-canvas












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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Absent Minded]
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Cali's got a dope scene.
My personal favorite, in no order are Denver/Montreal/New Jersey/NoLa/Long Island. Cali's up there too, though.
Cali talent:



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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: lar20]
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One of the main things I don't get is why the fuck alot of the people on the graff forums think its cool to steal from stores all the time. I find that strange

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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: i like cow poo] * 1
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i like cow poo said:
One of the main things I don't get is why the fuck alot of the people on the graff forums think its cool to steal from stores all the time. I find that strange



hahaha yeah that's just an aspect of the "culture" I guess. Some of those kids steal EVERYTHING - paint, sketch pads, markers, pens, etc.
I forget the origins of that starting, but it's ingrained in it now.
again, most of the kids attempt to use some "morals" about it by only stealing from walmart, etc. and not local businesses, but still, I don't agree with that. You're already doing something illegal and getting attention drawn to yourself, why add shoplifting to your list of breaking/entering, trespassing, destruction of property, vandalism, etc.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Absent Minded]
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Graffiti has no real rules. You can't say its art either because everyone does different graff. Some of it is art though, one thing it will always be is vandalism :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: i like cow poo]
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I love artistic graffiti but I despise the ugly tagging that "gangstas" do on trucks, homes, and anywhere else.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Synthe]
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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: FleshyVirus]
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Okay?


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Synthe]
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extremely confused by that video....


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Absent Minded]
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I enjoy both traditional graffiti and so-called "street art". the only kind of graffiti I don't dig really is "gang tags" that for one are simply claiming territory for a particular set or clique rather than any artistic purpose, and also coincidentally usually look like they were drawn by 3 year olds with cerebral palsy.

you'd think these prominent gangs that are so proud of their "hood" would want to "represent" by throwing up something that actually takes some talent to graf, and that looks cool. but since gangs make a sport out of venturing onto eachothers territory and crossing out rival gangs tags, they're so impermanent that they don't even bother to put any effort into them.



^this is far from being one of the worst examples. and it wasn't always this way apparently, i see old shit from the 70s and 80s where they had a classic style, particularly the east l.a. latino gangs that looked kind of cool. but by now shit has just fallen off.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Pigasus]
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Tagging isn't done just by gangs, the best graffiti artists have a tag.


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Pigasus]
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People who tag peoples houses, sheds, barns, or churches. Are toys. Plain and simple. Not all taggers are "gangsters". Most graffiti artist tag for fame not for territory. Never go over anybody elses shit that you cant top. Then your just being bitch toy and will be beaten if caught doing so. Never show your black book or lend it to anyone.

This is some of the "code of conduct" i was told when i use to bomb.

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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: Sarthen]
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i love graffiti, have done plenty of my own work as well as some collaborations with fellow member KCL. we have pieces all over america including california all the way to new hampshire


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Re: Views on Graffiti [Re: AntiEverything]
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I like tasteful graffiti that's kind of hard to explain but if it's well done and not in a terrible spot then I'm okay with it. Seeing it on trains is cool when they pass by my work. People who tag rocks and caves, shit that's out in the woods fuck those people :mad2:


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