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Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what?
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I can have like, 4 shots of their espresso and then take a nap. Yet, if I get one or two shots from the coffee bean and tea leaf (or a REAL coffeehouse) then I feel like I'm kinda on crack.

Do any of you notice that starbucks barely has any cafeinne in it?

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
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It's a conspiracy bro, all their coffee is decaf.

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: occollegeboi]
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I don't drink their coffee very often, but maybe it's something top do with very dark roasts destroying some of the caffeine? In general I don't really have any problem sleeping after drinking even a bunch of strong coffee, unless for example I'm stressed out about trying to get to sleep to wake up for something important.

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: psi]
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most good coffee shops these days use 20-24 gram baskets.  I don't know what Starbucks uses but its probably like 8-12 gram baskets.


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: occollegeboi] * 4
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Darker roasts do have less caffeine than lighter roasts because the higher and longer exposure to temperatures in the roasting process does harm caffeine molecules. You may also want to try drinking just regular coffee, rather than shots of espresso. Although espresso has more caffeine by volume, the large Starbucks coffee has more caffeine than in four shots of espresso. (It's a heck of a lot cheaper too.) You can find caffeine content of their drinks online.


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: Pillows] * 2
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Pillows said:
Darker roasts do have less caffeine than lighter roasts because the higher and longer exposure to temperatures in the roasting process does harm caffeine molecules. You may also want to try drinking just regular coffee, rather than shots of espresso. Although espresso has more caffeine by volume, the large Starbucks coffee has more caffeine than in four shots of espresso. (It's a heck of a lot cheaper too.) You can find caffeine content of their drinks online.



That is probably the oddest first post I have ever seen. Welcome to the shroomery, coffee guru.

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: Pillows]
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Pillows said:
Darker roasts do have less caffeine than lighter roasts because the higher and longer exposure to temperatures in the roasting process does harm caffeine molecules. You may also want to try drinking just regular coffee, rather than shots of espresso. Although espresso has more caffeine by volume, the large Starbucks coffee has more caffeine than in four shots of espresso. (It's a heck of a lot cheaper too.) You can find caffeine content of their drinks online.



I'm sorry that's not correct.  either the effect is miniscule or non existent


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: teamkiller]
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Starbucks espresso has 80mg caffeine per fluid ounce, their coffee 20mg per fluid ounce. And the dark roast vs light roast caffeine content is the absolute truth.  I was a coffee master at Starbucks for 3 years.

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: Icepic]
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that's sad they taught you that at Starbucks.

look it up for yourself. roasting temperature isn't even close to be able to damage coffee.

edit: sorry I mean caffinne.


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Edited by teamkiller (12/19/12 06:52 PM)

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: teamkiller]
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Effect of roasting on chlorogenic acids, caffeine and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons levels in two Coffea cultivars: Coffea arabica cv. Catuaí Amarelo IAC-62 and Coffea canephora cv. Apoatã IAC-2258

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During coffee roasting process, several substances may be formed or eliminated. The influence of roasting on polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), caffeoylquinic acids (CQAs) and caffeine levels was studied in Coffea arabica cv. Catuaí Amarelo IAC-62 and Coffea canephora cv. Apoatã IAC-2258, roasted in three roasting degrees. CQAs and caffeine were determined simultaneously by HPLC-DAD, and PAHs by HPLC-FLD. Caffeine levels were higher in canephora (1486–1884 mg per 100 g) than in arabica (1110–1255 mg per 100 g) and increased up to 21% at darker roasts. Summed CQA levels were higher in green coffee (4661 and 4946 mg per 100 g) and decreased at darker roasts (234 and 377 mg per 100 g), showing no difference between the coffee cultivars studied. PAH summed levels varied from 0.052 to 0.814 μg kg−1 (arabica) and 0.108 to 0.392 μg kg−1 (canephora). No correlation was observed between roasting degree, coffee cultivar and PAH levels. Results were also analysed using hierarchical cluster analysis and principal component analysis.



Here is another study about the effects of roasting temperature on caffeine, but it is just too long to copy and paste.

:shrug:


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: teamkiller]
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also, darker roasts don't have higher temperatures... coffee is always roasted  inthe same very narrow window.

I've been in coffee for 8 years and tour roasteries regularly.


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: teamkiller] * 1
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Starbucks is shitty and overpriced. I dont drink that garbage

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: occollegeboi]
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occollegeboi said:
I can have like, 4 shots of their espresso and then take a nap. Yet, if I get one or two shots from the coffee bean and tea leaf (or a REAL coffeehouse) then I feel like I'm kinda on crack.

Do any of you notice that starbucks barely has any cafeinne in it?



I'm pretty sure they just hawk weak-ass coffee.


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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vapor, when I get home I'll look at the studies in depth.  just since they found no difference between cultivars I would assume methodology flaws or really small sample size.  I suppose dark roasts would have slightly less water and volatile oils leading to higher caffeine content by weight but I wouldn't have guessed 20%

I'm like 90% sure its dosage of the espresso.  Starbucks is known to have high caffeine content of their coffee and if anyone has close to a standardized product it would them


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: occollegeboi]
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I heard a rumor a long time ago saying that starbucks used double the caffeine to addict you. That's how they got away with 5$ cups of coffee.

:shrug:

But I'm the same way non-the-less. I can pound a pot of coffee, and drink a few Monsters/redbulls and go home and take a 3 hour nap.

I'm not complaining.


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: DarkElf] * 1
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I have been a drinker of their French Roast for years and I can assure you it is loaded with caffeine in every cup...


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: mpd]
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Another thing I didn't know was that darker coffee does not mean it has more caffeine like you would think....actually lighter colored blends have more caffeine.

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: occollegeboi]
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I dont care about coffee whatsoever.

I dont drink it.

Im not a slave to coffee places


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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: Patlal] * 1
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tdubz said:
Another thing I didn't know was that darker coffee does not mean it has more caffeine like you would think....actually lighter colored blends have more caffeine.



Did you read the studies I posted?

Patlal said:
I dont care about coffee whatsoever.

I dont drink it.

Im not a slave to coffee places



Then why are you posting here? Just to point out how much better you are than everyone else?

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Re: Does starbucks not have cafeinne in it or what? [Re: The Vapor]
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support your local coffee joint, we need them to survive :coffee:

:feelsgoodman:

Edited by lsdwithme (12/20/12 12:03 AM)

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