Home | Community | Message Board

Cannabis Seeds Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 |  [ show all ]
Telepathy Is real
    #17265928 -

I have done mushrooms and LSD many times in the last few years but in the last two months i have done 3 lsd trips and 3 shrooms trips..

whenever I do shrooms 3-4 grams with my friends who do the same dosages we are able to complete eachothers sentences or even know what the person was about to say before they even open there mouth..

i have experienced this numerous amount of times and it's definitely real. I want to know why the mushrooms bring this out this capability and what you experiences with this our.. I want to know why we need shrooms to achieve this and if its possible to achieve this sober..


It's an amazing experience and it didn't happen one or two times.. the entire trip me and my friend were able to understand what we were thinking without the use of words or body language. ABOUT COMPLETELY random topics i would have had no other way to know what he was saying therefore telepathy is real

I haven't experienced this with Lsd

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: ahmadi]
    #17266017 -

ahmadi said:
I have done mushrooms and LSD many times in the last few years but in the last two months i have done 3 lsd trips and 3 shrooms trips..

whenever I do shrooms 3-4 grams with my friends who do the same dosages we are able to complete eachothers sentences or even know what the person was about to say before they even open there mouth..




Great, what's this conclusion based on?  Can we see the data that allows you to conclude this? 



Quote:
It's an amazing experience and it didn't happen one or two times.. the entire trip me and my friend were able to understand what we were thinking without the use of words or body language. ABOUT COMPLETELY random topics i would have had no other way to know what he was saying therefore telepathy is real

I haven't experienced this with Lsd



So how did you conclude this if you weren't using words or body language?  You haven't actually presented your methodology or data, so it seems kind of questionable whether your claims are even possibly obtained from your data.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: johnm214]
    #17266172 -

lol yeah when me and my mates do high doses of acid, we can pretty much have a conversation by looking at each other and making facial expressions. 
e.g we were both sitting inside sitting on couches opposite of each other, looking at each other next minute we both get up i go grab the bong he goes and grabs the bowl/scissors and meet each other on the balcony, all with out saying a word.

that was just one example from my last trip, but it seems like this happens quite often on lsd trips haha


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: gullhole] * 1
    #17266257 -

Basically you are all thinking along the same lines. Your thoughts have the same common cause (i.e. being shroomed off your tits in the same room) and that cause creates a dissolution of your individual identities; so the 'field of identity' that pervades the physical reality stops being concentrated and confined within your bodies and instead diffuses beyond the boundaries of your skin into a blob that encases all of your bodies or rather a very precisely defined polygonal field shape with each of you being a vertex.

Imagine you get two people. You prime their minds to think of a red traffic light at 3PM on a given date. You then get these people to meet each other on that date. When 3pm strikes, they each draw a picture of a red traffic light. Their minds are blown. This must be telepathy. Nope, Chuck Testa! This is an extremely exaggerated analogy to what is happening here. A single cause creates an entangled effect in multiple minds/bodies such that there is a direct correlation between the state of each body to every other body in the system. A is thinking "red", B is thinking "traffic", C is thinking "light". And you proceed to shock yourselves.


Yes, it is definitely telepathy. If you are clued up about special relativity, we can put it in terms of that: this telepathy does not involve a transmission of information across a spacelike separated interval, this is absolutely crucial. The type of telepathy that is widely held in dispute is that kind. The type you are talking about, which is very real, is the transmission of information along intervals which appear spacelike to the ignorant observer but in actuality have a common causal connection. This causal connection is often subtle and requires probing to understand why it works. It is not the appearance or illusion of telepathy, it IS telepathy.


But when you differentiate between "magical" and "non-magical" reality you might start to see one as more absurd than the other. In reality, what is, just IS. Me writing this message to you is telepathy but nobody decries this as magic, funnily enough.

Also, there are many physical explanations and they will perhaps be based on either information transfer via variations in our biomagnetic fields or even wackier, extremely fine disturbances in the local gravitational field. Well, both of these phenomena are somewhat identical to each other anyway. Maybe we need to define a new kind of field which encompasses the notion of gravity and also 'space' expansion too because as it stands our present physical conceptual framework treats spacetime as an absolute thing which just happens to "expand". This is not very helpful, it limits our perspective. What is absolute and fundamental should perhaps be unchanging and eternal and from this unknown is-ness should we derive an expanding spacetime.

I have said this many times before and I will say it again: the strength of a particular field says very little about its usefulness for information transfer without defining the signal:noise ratio. A single photon sent from one edge of the universe to the other could be the one responsible for the collapse of a star into a black hole. Bear that in mind before you cry about the human body's supposed inability to detect fields that are barely a metre away.


--------------------


"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific

Edited by crkhd (11/22/12 08:42 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: crkhd]
    #17267753 -

I'm was wondering if people could share telepathy with more substance then emotions or mundane thoughts.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: gullhole]
    #17268762 -

gullhole said:
lol yeah when me and my mates do high doses of acid, we can pretty much have a conversation by looking at each other and making facial expressions. 
e.g we were both sitting inside sitting on couches opposite of each other, looking at each other next minute we both get up i go grab the bong he goes and grabs the bowl/scissors and meet each other on the balcony, all with out saying a word.

that was just one example from my last trip, but it seems like this happens quite often on lsd trips haha




Sure, that would be convincing if you had some data to back it up.  Next time devise a methodlogy that's capable of telling whether this is true or not, and keep records.  Then you'll have your answer.  At present it sounds like an emotional conviction as I don't think you have any way of knowing what actually happened and if its unusual.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: crkhd]
    #17272465 -

crkhd said:
Basically you are all thinking along the same lines. Your thoughts have the same common cause (i.e. being shroomed off your tits in the same room) and that cause creates a dissolution of your individual identities; so the 'field of identity' that pervades the physical reality stops being concentrated and confined within your bodies and instead diffuses beyond the boundaries of your skin into a blob that encases all of your bodies or rather a very precisely defined polygonal field shape with each of you being a vertex.

Imagine you get two people. You prime their minds to think of a red traffic light at 3PM on a given date. You then get these people to meet each other on that date. When 3pm strikes, they each draw a picture of a red traffic light. Their minds are blown. This must be telepathy. Nope, Chuck Testa! This is an extremely exaggerated analogy to what is happening here. A single cause creates an entangled effect in multiple minds/bodies such that there is a direct correlation between the state of each body to every other body in the system. A is thinking "red", B is thinking "traffic", C is thinking "light". And you proceed to shock yourselves.


Yes, it is definitely telepathy. If you are clued up about special relativity, we can put it in terms of that: this telepathy does not involve a transmission of information across a spacelike separated interval, this is absolutely crucial. The type of telepathy that is widely held in dispute is that kind. The type you are talking about, which is very real, is the transmission of information along intervals which appear spacelike to the ignorant observer but in actuality have a common causal connection. This causal connection is often subtle and requires probing to understand why it works. It is not the appearance or illusion of telepathy, it IS telepathy.


But when you differentiate between "magical" and "non-magical" reality you might start to see one as more absurd than the other. In reality, what is, just IS. Me writing this message to you is telepathy but nobody decries this as magic, funnily enough.

Also, there are many physical explanations and they will perhaps be based on either information transfer via variations in our biomagnetic fields or even wackier, extremely fine disturbances in the local gravitational field. Well, both of these phenomena are somewhat identical to each other anyway. Maybe we need to define a new kind of field which encompasses the notion of gravity and also 'space' expansion too because as it stands our present physical conceptual framework treats spacetime as an absolute thing which just happens to "expand". This is not very helpful, it limits our perspective. What is absolute and fundamental should perhaps be unchanging and eternal and from this unknown is-ness should we derive an expanding spacetime.

I have said this many times before and I will say it again: the strength of a particular field says very little about its usefulness for information transfer without defining the signal:noise ratio. A single photon sent from one edge of the universe to the other could be the one responsible for the collapse of a star into a black hole. Bear that in mind before you cry about the human body's supposed inability to detect fields that are barely a metre away.



^^
Shrooms tend to block Beta Waves of the brain... that makes it easier for some not so superficial functions to activate.
You explained it well enough. Telepathy is just a natural ability, which we as a humans forget to use properly, by dumping our selves down, to the point we forgot about it. But that does not make it gone....:cool:


--------------------
Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. - Nietzsche

I've never faked a sarcasm in my life. True story.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: ivander]
    #17272500 -

Telepathy is very real.  I would go so far to say that there is a telepathic race.  Some telepathic from the time their born.  They don't talk about it.  Huge secret.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #17273357 -

FishOilTheKid said:
Telepathy is very real.  I would go so far to say that there is a telepathic race.  Some telepathic from the time their born.  They don't talk about it.  Huge secret.



:whathesaid:

Telepathy is very very real. i can use telepathy when im on the lowest dosage of shroomes too heroic dosage. the skills of mind read/telepathy/extraction deppends on the person im doing it with/too and his mind stage (consciousness) at the time of "it". i do alot of astral projection, spiritual rits, wicca, nocturnal witchcraft, chakra piratic, meditation and M.M. I find it hard to too with out any mind altering substances in my system or in the "targets system". but when im under the influence of shrooms (me and the other) i find it rather easy to extract toughs thats just on the surface so too speak, and hard but not imposable too get out secrets or other toughs that "the other" might have "locked" deep inside or dont want others too know. Practice :smile:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: KeVaTheJoker]
    #17275216 -

Telepathy is in fact very real. I use Shrooms in a shaministic way. Not for recreational purposes. I evoke Demons and Jinn and they come but speak telepathically and me to them via telepathy

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: johnm214]
    #17276124 -

i highly doubt that there is telepathy involved, it was just cool cause we were all extremely fucked up


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: gullhole]
    #17308433 -

.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: KeVaTheJoker]
    #17308795 -

Is it really telepathy? I've had experiences in my life that were so beyond parallel that it's hard to explain simply, things that are just too complex, to be a coincidence.

  What is telepathy to you? To me I feel that it's just the minds way of communicating unconsciously without using words. There is several ways that people communicate with each other without saying anything.

For me, labeling it telepathy is like playing a dirty trick on your mind, because your mind can and will trick you into believing anything, especially in the psychedelic state.

If you look at the root words telepathy it can mean distant, passion, affliction, or experience, what does that mean to you? I have an idea of what it means to me, I choose not to share it.

The definition of telepathy is the communication between minds by other means other than sensory perception. To me that could mean unconscious communication, through very subtle means such as tone, facial, eye and, limb expression. The problem with that statement, is I'm still describing communication based on sensory perception. I feel that's impossible to comminicate without using the senses. Therefore telepathy is not real. What you are describing could just be unconscious communication. How can you know if your really communicating with someone without confirming it?

It could just be something you may haven't learned how to use to it's maximum potentional. It's amazing how much people comminicate without using words, conciously and mostly unconciously. I try to remain conscious of the unconscious, much easier said than done.

I don't think labeling it telepathy is rational.

...

Crkhd I'm gonna have to read your post multiple times to truly understand it. All your statements are absolutely mind boggling. :fonda:

You other guys are pretty out there, but this is coming from someone that knows so little about reality. :fonda:

Reality whatever you perceive it to be. :fonda:

Edited by Deemstar (11/30/12 12:40 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: Deemstar]
    #17308838 -

Quote:
What is telepathy to you?



Mind to mind communication.  Disembodied minds included.

Quote:
If you look at the root words telepathy it means distant experience, what does that mean to you?



That I might have a distant experience of another's 'mindstuff.'  That is, from outside their head or subjective experience.

The beings that talk, which isn't sound, are always using telepathy.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #17308901 -

FishOilTheKid said:
Quote:
What is telepathy to you?



Mind to mind communication.  Disembodied minds included.

Quote:
If you look at the root words telepathy it means distant experience, what does that mean to you?



That I might have a distant experience of another's 'mindstuff.'  That is, from outside their head or subjective experience.

The beings that talk, which isn't sound, are always using telepathy.



So you feel as if you can communicate between souls without as much as looking at each other? I've felt similar things but those things were based on how a person was feeling before they left my vicinity. Do you try talk about these things with people that you feel that you communicated with?


--------------------
Gnome-miii-odd
JAH!!! Pasta-far-eye!:bigblunt:
R.I.P. Georgie poor G
A.K.A. Jorgon Lucy

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: Deemstar]
    #17309004 -

Recently I've had the problem of believing discarnate beings to be people becuase they say they are people and borrow what they call 'genetics' from people.  Then they correspond with me using the borrowed 'personality bits' of the people from my past.  Its confusing becuause they are not always truthful.

Quote:
So you feel as if you can communicate between souls without as much as looking at each other?



Yes, over vast distances even.

Quote:
Do you try talk about these things with people that you feel that you communicated with?




I would like to. But like I said, its been confusing trying to figure out all the trickery.  And more often then not its trickery on pupose as if to conceal the real deal of these telepathic entities.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #17309247 -

FishOilTheKid said:
Recently I've had the problem of believing discarnate beings to be people becuase they say they are people and borrow what they call 'genetics' from people.  Then they correspond with me using the borrowed 'personality bits' of the people from my past.  Its confusing becuause they are not always truthful.

Quote:
So you feel as if you can communicate between souls without as much as looking at each other?



Yes, over vast distances even.

Quote:
Do you try talk about these things with people that you feel that you communicated with?




I would like to. But like I said, its been confusing trying to figure out all the trickery.  And more often then not its trickery on pupose as if to conceal the real deal of these telepathic entities.



I've felt like this at times. With people I knew very well, before and after I tried psychedelic drugs. I became very good at attempting to decipher what people are feeling, and thinking. I feel as if I can transmit, simple, certain things into the eyes of certain people. I only like to talk about what I feel to be true. I can make many assumptions based on things that happened, through those assumptions I feel as if I can see what's going to happen. I have a strange habit of being, right with my predictions. Assuming thoughts is one of those things. It has always been very spontaneous and I'm trying to learn how to use it better. I've talked with old timers and they say you can most definately project others experiences in the mind.

I don't feel like it's telepathy however, just intuition of the mind.

I tried explaining things like this to a drug counceler, I feel that she thinks I'm schitzo, she's brought it up. I don't want to get my head checked out because I don't really care for people opinions that want to assume that's how my brain operates and label me this or that. I think that's such heavy thing to tell someone that has been through many trips.

I kept this thought in my head, I don't even know what the fuck schizo is supposed to mean. I understand that's it's a disorder of the mind. How could our minds not be disorderly places? Is it not in disorder that creation lies? I've heard strange whisperings and noises in ears in my time, it's always been a positive thing for me. We all have the power to create symphonies in between our ears, why not use it?

I've never had any breakdowns or anything of the sort with a sober mind.

...

Does the field of psychology in it's current state just label and suppress people's minds into believing things that are just based on other peoples assumptions? If everyone agrees on it, does that make it true?


--------------------
Gnome-miii-odd
JAH!!! Pasta-far-eye!:bigblunt:
R.I.P. Georgie poor G
A.K.A. Jorgon Lucy

Edited by Deemstar (11/30/12 02:11 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: Deemstar]
    #17309480 -

Quote:
If everyone agrees on it, does that make it true?



Given certain 'criteria' its the only thing people can agree on to do something about it, help it, or cure it, IME.  Or cover it up!  Say something within this criteria, a symptom, like hearing voices can be believed to be something else...?  Like an angel(s) that would rather not be responsible for answering the questions of a Christian (christianity) that might approach as if he/she thought they were owed something - some answer.  Suppose the conspiracy to conceal the reality of their existence is far more important.  ...Due to the information revealed about how people and personalities/emotions are actually controlled with the forces of nature and differing vibrations of energy and intent.  (?)

^This makes it difficult because the entire notion is a double edged sword.  The voices are not schizophrenia is my conclusion.  The experience has progressed into a relationship with spirits.  The interaction with them telepathically, which has been diagnosed as schizophrenia, reveals unending alternates with which to choose reality from as the spirits tell their story (even control psychoses on purpose by forcing belief) and time locks into place with the power of belief. 

The choices about the information presented determine your level of sanity.  Measured by the modern paradigm.

Its the assumption that its all false that is the problem.

Edited by FishOilTheKid (11/30/12 03:00 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: johnm214] * 1
    #17309644 -

johnm214 said:
ahmadi said:
I have done mushrooms and LSD many times in the last few years but in the last two months i have done 3 lsd trips and 3 shrooms trips..

whenever I do shrooms 3-4 grams with my friends who do the same dosages we are able to complete eachothers sentences or even know what the person was about to say before they even open there mouth..




Great, what's this conclusion based on?  Can we see the data that allows you to conclude this? 



Quote:
It's an amazing experience and it didn't happen one or two times.. the entire trip me and my friend were able to understand what we were thinking without the use of words or body language. ABOUT COMPLETELY random topics i would have had no other way to know what he was saying therefore telepathy is real

I haven't experienced this with Lsd



So how did you conclude this if you weren't using words or body language?  You haven't actually presented your methodology or data, so it seems kind of questionable whether your claims are even possibly obtained from your data.



screw your overly scientific and rigid worldview! why is scientific, five-sense based data methodology the only confirmed source of "truth" in our culture?

we should give more validity to people's individual subjective experiences rather than throwing them out because they're "unscientific." you don't have to believe the guy's claim that telepathy is real. but to fully say he's talking bullshit just because there's no "scientific data" is absurd.

for example: someone takes shrooms and experiences complete and total bliss and oneness with the universe. the experience was life-changing and left an afterglow for weeks. but since there wasn't any "scientific data" to back it up the experience "doesn't matter" from a scientific worldview, as it was purely subjective.

that's why science can only go so far imo...people's subjective experiences are very important. even if they're not purely scientific, we can learn from them in other ways.


--------------------
Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Telepathy Is real [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #17309775 -

FishOilTheKid said:
Quote:
If everyone agrees on it, does that make it true?



Given certain 'criteria' its the only thing people can agree on to do something about it, help it, or cure it, IME.  Or cover it up!  Say something within this criteria, a symptom, like hearing voices can be believed to be something else...?  Like an angel(s) that would rather not be responsible for answering the questions of a Christian (christianity) that might approach as if he/she thought they were owed something - some answer.  Suppose the conspiracy to conceal the reality of their existence is far more important.  ...Due to the information revealed about how people and personalities/emotions are actually controlled with the forces of nature and differing vibrations of energy and intent.  (?)

^This makes it difficult because the entire notion is a double edged sword.  The voices are not schizophrenia is my conclusion.  The experience has progressed into a relationship with spirits.  The interaction with them telepathically, which has been diagnosed as schizophrenia, reveals unending alternates with which to choose reality from as the spirits tell their story (even control psychoses on purpose by forcing belief) and time locks into place with the power of belief. 

The choices about the information presented determine your level of sanity.  Measured by the modern paradigm.

Its the assumption that its all false that is the problem.



This seems to be all so true from my personal experience. I have learned a lot in my lifetime because I was never sheltered from the "crazies." I have seen such a bizarre range of human interactions. Beautiful and ugly things. I believe that outside forces can manipulate people into doing things they couldn't imagine themselves doing. Particularly when one invites these forces either consciously or subconsciously. Life is definately not what it appears to be from our own personal perspective.

That really makes me wonder what is sanity? The ability to control and express coherently one's thought? The ability to rationalize your thoughts? Your ability to decifer what to do with all the information? What is a measure of sanity? How many different choices you can come up with whay to do the given information? What if the choices are unlimited to me? I feel as I can go about doing anything in an infinite amount of ways. If these are it I definately wasn't sane before I tried psychedelic drugs. I was definately not functioning in a sane way.  They really help me continue to cure my mind, by pushing it to the absolute outer limits of insanity, helping identify the problem, and how to fix it. So I can journey and experience everything sanity has to offer.


--------------------
Gnome-miii-odd
JAH!!! Pasta-far-eye!:bigblunt:
R.I.P. Georgie poor G
A.K.A. Jorgon Lucy

Edited by Deemstar (11/30/12 03:42 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 |  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* telepathy
( 1 2 all )
DoctorJ 4,702 29 04/14/07 02:28 PM
by thedudenj
* A scientist says he has proof of telepathy! Ego Death 3,092 16 10/25/21 01:22 AM
by Loaded Shaman
* found masonic painting Mitchnast 863 2 11/29/06 05:02 AM
by kotik
* Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution daytripper23 1,639 8 09/09/06 08:11 PM
by daytripper23
* Alright, say Jesus was the real deal..
( 1 2 all )
WScott 4,722 25 02/26/06 11:42 AM
by MarkostheGnostic
* Psychics powers are a very real part of evolution that we are proggramming ourselves to nullify
( 1 2 3 all )
Ego Death 8,017 41 12/12/08 05:22 AM
by Bridgeburner
* An interesting real-life occurence of dreams portraying the future about lesbian activities Druginduced 832 2 01/15/06 11:58 AM
by dr0mni
* Telepathy and appearing objects or ants Merkin 1,489 8 08/15/06 07:47 PM
by sleepy

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, Asante, Shroomism, Rose, Kickle, yogabunny, Northerner, DividedQuantum
4,218 topic views. 1 members, 11 guests and 8 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.034 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 16 queries.