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Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution
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Have you ever experienced vibes of another being? What im talking about is the telepathic exchange of true self, or the combining of conciousnous. If you have you should read on. Im not going to tell you much about my experiences, Im just going to assume your a believer. If not, you might want to read on anyway. Also, If any of you have read any books or pondered the theories emergence and complexity, you might agree with me that the next step in evolution is a collective conciousnous. What ive experienced is just that, but only with a few individuals at a time, and on mushrooms. So what made most sense to me  is that mushrooms could lead us to the next step in evolution! But soon i realized it wasnt that simple. I have also experienced this connection with animals. Unlike my experiences with humans, i couldnt verify (although once you experience, you somehow just know, and do not feel the need to verify) this by asking it. All i really know is that was feeling her (my cats) vibes. But it felt no different then my connection with humans so i assume she was also feeling it as well. Actually my strongest connection like this have been with my pets.     
This as you can see makes things a little difficult. If im creating the strongest connection with animals, (and they arent even on mushrooms!) and since they seem to be more aware of this then the average person how can the next step in evolution be this type of collective conciousnous? The psychic connection does seem to be tied closely with instinct after all. On evolution, Im sure most biologists would say that we are further evolved then cats and dogs, primarily due to our brain size or abilitys to handle things logically, and our "accomplishments". Also we have created a global interconnected society through the internet, telivision and radio, which has nothing to do with this psychic, collective conciousnous. Is this system we built the global conciousnouss that is to be such a huge turning point for our species? It is certainly huge. In this system everything is backed by facts, statistics, and human emotion. one cannot doubt the facts. And in this system the people skilled in the art of rhetoric rule. They bend arguments using human emotion, and disinformation to make their side of the story seem logical. I Dont see much benifit arising from this global conciousnouss.
But if we reached a singular global conciousnous through psychic connection, first of all there would be no delay in message sending and recieving. We would always be "online" so to say. Through this connection of pure feeling and emotion only the truth comes through. many people are uncomfortable tripping with others because their true nature is easily revealed. If we strengthened this connection enough, and had everyone in the world connected, we would acheieve global understanding, peace and love. At the root of all problems is either ignorance, greed, or both. Both would no longer be problems of the past when One person feels all and sees all.
So it seems that the next step evolutionary step that would most benifit the world, wouldnt be evolutionary based on our current definitions. Cats and dogs closer to the next step than us? ARE THEY? I believe that we might have stopped evolving naturally. or stopped evolving with the grace of god. strayed from the path. the factors of this level of natural selection are now in what country you live in, and how good you are at working the the system we call society. The people that die are people who live in third world countries. Are these people less evolved?  :rolleyes: And the people who do work the system, what do they have access to that would produce better offspring? They have access to power to influence others. It seems that a prerequiset of that would be being very smart. But the way the system works, the CORRUPT are primarily at the top. brain size has a bit to do with it, but willingnous to screw over others is dominant. But the middle and lower classes are NOT dying out. what does this say for evolution? I think that it is obvious we are not evolving the same way that species have for first 99.9999 % of earths exhistence. I have to theories on this. We have reached a new kind of evolution called Social evolution. The countries of the world are evolving now, not the inhabitants. The inhabitants of a country are to cells of a human being. So the next step is global unity. technology is probably going to kill us. People will continue to make weapons, and the weapons become smaller, easier to use, more powerfull, and more accessable, as technology progresses. and nothings stopping it. Its impossible to fight technology, so we have two options.

             
peace( :mushroom2:) or annhialation.


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: daytripper23]
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I know it doesnt seem completely tied together, and thats why i need some influence. The most important question is how do we counteract our seemingly inevitable death by technology?

Please discuss any similar theories, or where you think i am wrong and why. Or am i just off my rocker here :crazy2: Lets get to the bottom of this shiznet!


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

Edited by daytripper23 (09/08/06 11:40 PM)

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: daytripper23]
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I think i understand where this doesnt make sense now. People can block others out with psychic defense or something, based on what ive read in other threads. In my case i had no control over whos brain i was running through and who was running through mine. I guess with out it being mandatory theres still deciet. I dont think you could lie through telepathy, but you could still not tell the whole truth. I still think that technology is going to end our world eventually. Whats going to stop it? Its obvious we cannot police the entire world. Mabey its possible to have world unity some other way though.


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: daytripper23]
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First of all, why in the world would you wanna counteract death? Like any other thing in life, death, has it's own purpose.
Secondly, yes, I experienced what you're saying, many times on mushromms or lsd, some other times by smoking weed, and other times without tripping or being high, it just happened but it faded away as soon as I became conscious of it. You can enter that stater also by meditating, focusing on your third eye chakra, etc
These things exist and can be done by anybody, only we forgot how. I don't know if that will be our future, but it was for sure our past.
Animals have theie channels unblocked and that why they can feel you. Evey time I tripped of smoked my cats. as well as other animals too were totally connected and relaxed.
Telepathy is a function of the brain which anyone can reach through exercise, but I think this also reqiures a dramattic change of lifestyle.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: daytripper23]
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daytripper23 said:
I think i understand where this doesnt make sense now. People can block others out with psychic defense or something, based on what ive read in other threads. In my case i had no control over whos brain i was running through and who was running through mine. I guess with out it being mandatory theres still deciet. I dont think you could lie through telepathy, but you could still not tell the whole truth. I still think that technology is going to end our world eventually. Whats going to stop it? Its obvious we cannot police the entire world. Mabey its possible to have world unity some other way though.



Dude, you're being totally incoherent


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

Edited by MushroomTrip (09/09/06 05:41 PM)

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: MushroomTrip]
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ok let me explain better. In my original post i was comparing a global community through the internet versus one through psychic connection. I thought at the moment that since my experience with psychic connection was a display of true self, there was no way for people to decieve others anymore. But then i read some thread about psychic defense, which said that people could block these feelings from others. They still wouldnt be able to send off feelings that are untrue to themself, but theyed have the capability to cover up their true self, and decieve others. Hence no global understanding. Catch my drift? but yea i did totally refute my argument. I think theres still some good points in there though.


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: MushroomTrip]
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i dont want to live for ever. Im saying i would like to see humanity go on! dont you? I think if we as a species can get past this great things will come.

I understand you in that we dont necessarily need mushrooms to do this. In my case, on one of my trips my third chakra did open, on mushrooms. Its actually been a big problem for me because i never have been able to open my root chakra to the same extent. this has cuased me tons of anxiety, although it deffinately has its benifits too. So yea you can open these naturally, its just very acceccable with the use of hallucinogens. They also show you these things "for free" without meditation, and can make a believer out of almost anyone if they do experience it. Then they would be more inclined to meditate.

I also think its very strange that we evolved away from these powers, i guess this is why sometimes i feel like we strayed from the natural path.


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: daytripper23]
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Oh yeah, no offense for anyobody, but most of this happened thanks to Christianity... :rolleyes:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Telepathy, Emergence, Evolution [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I think organized religion is at the root of almost all the worlds problems. And catholicism is one of them for sure. The general ideas of all religions are good as far as i know, but somehow people find ways to interperet them wrong. many people who are part of religions are easily taken advantage of as well.


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Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!

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