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mikebart101
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Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution?
#7382870 - 09/08/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Think about this. What if human beings could live to 200 yrs or maybe even 250? Medical technology will eventually get us there.
Think about the history and influential people you would be able to go see. What would they have to say about today? Think of the war veterans, political leaders, artists, musicians, etc. that would be disgusted at what the world has turned into. Living longer could possibly lead us to better behavior.
-------------------- So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
Edited by mikebart101 (09/08/07 11:51 AM)
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7383571 - 09/08/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. Longer lifespans are not related to evolution, i.e. changes in DNA.
2. Telomeres are cell markers that 'count' each time a cell divides and snip off a segement. After that cells cannot divide anymore and death is certain. The theoretical maximum possible human lifespan based upon this observation is about 140 years.
3. Lifespan increases are mostly due to sanitation improvements and not medical technology.
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7384125 - 09/08/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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More time to bitch and moan about how short and unsatisfying life is. Great.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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mikebart101
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7384212 - 09/08/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: 1. Longer lifespans are not related to evolution, i.e. changes in DNA.
2. Telomeres are cell markers that 'count' each time a cell divides and snip off a segement. After that cells cannot divide anymore and death is certain. The theoretical maximum possible human lifespan based upon this observation is about 140 years.
3. Lifespan increases are mostly due to sanitation improvements and not medical technology.
OK my B. Not a medical student so forgive me for not knowing what Im talking about. Additionally, I am not referring to longer physical lifespans as the evolutionary part; instead, living longer will expose people to more events and consequently make it harder for others to repeat them. Imagine if Civil War veterans were still alive or even some of the founding fathers, Teddy Roosevelt, Einstein, Tesla, etc.
(Mod Edit: sorry, I hit edit instead of reply, durp.)
Edited by Middleman (09/09/07 12:26 AM)
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7386362 - 09/09/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
3. Lifespan increases are mostly due to sanitation improvements and not medical technology.
THANK YOU for the "mostly" OC. 
I've been trying hard not to use the words ALL, NONE, ALWAYS or NEVER.
MOST technology is increasing exponentially and medical science sees no reason why we should have the "aging markers"
Our grandkids could very well live to see 200...
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7389036 - 09/09/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7398841 - 09/11/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you believe in science... Fruit fly life spans have been dramatically increased by postponing conception and child birth. This may also be the case for humans. So if humans choose to procreate later in life (which they do when provided with the resources), the human life span will increase.
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mikebart101
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: DieCommie]
#7399576 - 09/12/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not so much interested in the science of living longer; instead, I'm more interested in what would happen to the human race if ppl lived to 200? Would that in fact lead us to the evolution of morals, freedom, thought, spirituality, etc?
-------------------- So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7402250 - 09/12/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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...or maybe we would just have more time to watch Jerry Springer...
I think we would do the same things, just have more time to do them and to get better at them.
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7405044 - 09/13/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the next major step could be human broadband.
At the moment we communicate by modems (analogue sound to digital electrical brain impulses).
Basically telepathy.
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: mikebart101]
#7406405 - 09/13/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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One of the researchers here on anti-aging says if you restrict you caloric intake, thereby reduce your metabolic rate, then you'll live longer.
http://news.ufl.edu/1999/01/25/aging-2/
says it toward the bottom.
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: Increased Life Expectancy = Next step in evolution? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7412273 - 09/15/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: Millions now living will never die! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3329065877451441972
Thanks for the interesting link Cowabunga.
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