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Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry
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Okay so if any of you have any knowledge on this your help would be appreciated. I'm currently under the biochemistry program at my university. I'm not very far though. I'm a sophomore so I'm just finishing up gen chem and starting analytical chem. I picked this major because my school doesn't have a whole lot of options and it seemed the most interesting to me. I also thought it'd be pretty good for finding jobs as its a rather sought after degree. Dont get me wrong though, i legitimately enjoy the subject. However, I'm considering changing schools by fall and the school I'm looking into has an Astronomy and Physics program. The thought of it gave me the fuzzies. I lovvvvvvve reading up on cosmology and theoretical physics more than anything. Studying space/time and all that lies within sounds like a dream to me.

Idk what to do though. Would my Chem classes be necessary prerequisites or would I be wasting them and starting all over? What courses would I be looking at for physics? Not just the physics ones but the supporting disciplines. Ie, chem, bio, etc

How is the relative difficulty of the two majors? Im pretty smart but no genius. I currently have a 4.0 but am still in undergrad. I was struggling with calculus a little at first which is why I never considered this, but towards the end of the semester I find that things are starting to tie together and I'm really starting to enjoy mathematics

Lastly how do the job opportunities compare? Honestly I'm only interested in the natural sciences. I don't care for programming or designing bridges or being a doctor. I'm more interested in research on both sides. On the biochemical route things like stem cells or pathology. On the physics route things like space exploration or working with particle colliders. Hopefully that makes sense. I want to study the nature of reality and be involved in discovering new things more so than personal technology and basic health.

Thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? I'm open to any sort of input but Im having a pretty difficult time figuring out what to do here :strokebeard:

Oh and I've attempted looking into this on my own but had a difficult time coming to any conclusions. I'll def try to get an appointment with an advisor but until then im interested in the opinions of my fellow shroomery nerds

Excuse any typos. I'm writing this on my phone

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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I don't know much but I personally think biochemistry would be more beneficial.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: pfxtc]
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Sup dude, I'm a molecular bio major and a minor in astrophysics.  Well if you plan on completely switching to astro the bio and chem classes you took won't go towards your major. Maybe the math classes you took would but it depends on your school. If you took calculus already your next step is multivariable but youre not done with math yet. You need to take some more upper div classes. Other requirements are general physics which i'm pretty sure is required for all bio and chemistry disciplines but your school might have a general physics series for only physics and astrophysics majors. Also the physics will get harder becasue you have to take even more classes. I say stick with biochem since you already put 2 years towards it. But you can do anything you want.

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: MachineElf1.618]
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if you want a job you will stick with the biochemistry path.

you wont have a job if you get a bachelors in physics nor will you have a job if you get one in astronomy.

id reccomend getting your bachelors in biochemistry a minor in physics then go to grad school and get a masters in chemistry/biochemistry/chemical engineering if your really like math


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What are you going to do with your liberal arts degree? Write a 3rd person narrative about why you like playing with yourself in the mid-morning, instead of the afternoon, because you can't find a fuckin' job? --Captain Ahab
You'll see an classic example of real world exponential decay when a first year engineering course shrinks into a second year course and even more by third year. - Chem E prof

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: usudor]
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Hmm well that's a bummer. Perhaps I'll just take some physics as elective classes. Maybe complete something over the period of time. If I could have a job in astrophysics that'd be sweet, if not I'd be content just learning it on the side since I know there's not as big of a market for it. It just seems so interesting.

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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i wish i was good with math
im struggling with intro to chem :frown: well not really struggling, i'm almost done and have 95% grade, but i have to study a lot.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: pfxtc]
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I know the feeling man :/ I have a 91% in calc but it feels like such a struggle. Not to mention there's a massive curve helping me there. I'm starting to like it now though because it's all tying together and I can see the logic of how everything relates. With Chem it's still a lot of plug and chug and memorization so far. It's interesting though. Much more applicable than physics in day to day scenarios but not quite as intricate. There's too many exceptions. While I'm sure it'll eventually tie together and be more logical, intro chem doesn't do that. It just kind of pokes the surface and expects you to memorize things. I guess math was the same way throughout middle and high school with algebra and trig. It's a shame they don't start science earlier like they do with math

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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I'd take a hard look at your actual job opportunities with a four year degree in any of the basic sciences.  Essentially, you'll be qualified to be a lab tech.  For many graduates, they find that disappointing.

My advice is to get a summer job doing the actual work, and spend some time talking with graduates in those respective fields.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
I'd take a hard look at your actual job opportunities with a four year degree in any of the basic sciences.  Essentially, you'll be qualified to be a lab tech.  For many graduates, they find that disappointing.

My advice is to get a summer job doing the actual work, and spend some time talking with graduates in those respective fields.


I'm definitely looking into summer internships. I'm well aware that I'm going to need to be in this for at LEAST a masters.

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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From what I understand, physics is very math involved and may require you to learn some level of computer programming if you are pursuing a bachelors of science which would be necessary if you want to pursue a career in this field. PhDon't commit until you have a fair idea of what you're getting yourself into or are completely confident in your capabilities.

OP, I'm the same path. I'm more interested in organic chemistry and pretty talented in it but astro and nuclear physics I find to be extremely fascinating. I'm just going to consider it a hobby for the rest of my life. Got to go with where my talents lie. If I am to be an astrophysicist I want to be a bomb astrophysicist not some mediocre astrophysicist. If I'm lucky I'll look into applying nuclear physics to organic chemistry. Integrative science is getting pretty hot these days.

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Re: Astronomy and Physics vs. Biochemistry [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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JacksonMetaller said:
I know the feeling man :/ I have a 91% in calc but it feels like such a struggle. Not to mention there's a massive curve helping me there. I'm starting to like it now though because it's all tying together and I can see the logic of how everything relates. With Chem it's still a lot of plug and chug and memorization so far. It's interesting though. Much more applicable than physics in day to day scenarios but not quite as intricate. There's too many exceptions. While I'm sure it'll eventually tie together and be more logical, intro chem doesn't do that. It just kind of pokes the surface and expects you to memorize things. I guess math was the same way throughout middle and high school with algebra and trig. It's a shame they don't start science earlier like they do with math


I've never been very school smart I guess. :frown:


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.
Life-long trip report

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