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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: drspock825]
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Tupac Shakur received a letter from a manager about his impending death, which influenced his paranoid and pessimistic music style. Born into a politically volatile family, Tupac spent his childhood on the run from the FBI. He became the youngest national chairman of the New African Panthers and faced constant conflict with the Nation of Islam. Despite his fame, Tupac was targeted by the FBI, police, and other criminals, including being shot five times and facing sexual assault allegations. His music was often criticized and linked to gang violence, leading to legal battles and record label disputes. Tupac's life ended in a shooting linked to FBI informants, James "Henchman" Rosemond and Haitian Jack.

drspock825 said:
http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/103xo4/til_rapper_tupac_shakur_received_a_letter_from/

This is a post from that thread on reddit:

He always thought he was going to die young, and his paranoid (but very real) mindset obviously is a factor on how much he recorded.

His music developed a very paranoid tone. In July of 1996 a home movie was shot of Tupac in the studio, and his paranoia was on its way to its highest point. "We don't have the time or the luxury to spend all this time on one track. We Don't!" Tupac said frantically, his arms waving around as the orange glow of his cigarette followed.

He wasn't wrong, two months later he would be dead.

Gloria Cox, one of his first managers said that he sad/happy on his 21st birthday, because he made it to 21, and never thought he would. She begged him to stop thinking like that as it was like "death was his twin".

Tupac was fucked from the beginning though. He had too many enemies and came from too much of a volatile political family. He spent most of his childhood on the run from the FBI as they where tracking his step father Mutulu Shakur who was on the ten most wanted list for domestic terrorism. His own mother, spent time in prison on a trial for plotting to blow up New York police departments with the infamous panther 21. His God father was geronimo pratt who was targeted by the FBI illegal Cointelpro. And his god mother is Assata Shakur who is also wanted for domestic terrorism, that Tupacs step-dad broke her out of prison and is now living in Cuba. Bush in 2003 put a $1 million reward on her head during the revival of targeting domestic terrorists at the start of the war on terror. In 2011, Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly had an argument over her, as Obama invited an artist to the white house who supported Assata Shakur. Fox was trying to make that out that by default the president supports her too. Tupac comes from a very serious committed family, and as a teenager he was the national chairman of the new african panthers, so he was on route to be the next leader of the movement.

Lets look at Tupacs life.

- Spent his childhood running from the FBI due to the actions of the Shakurs.

- At 16 became the youngest national Chairman of the New African panthers, himself then getting FBI attention. His FBI file, only 104 pages out of 4000 are released to the public, the rest 3896 pages are censored for "National Security".

- Quit the New African Panthers when he believed the Nation of Islam infiltrated it, the next leader after Shakur was surprise surprise, a member of the NOI.

- Got into a constant war of words with the Nation of Islam throughout his rap career. They would follow him everywhere, trying to make it look like they where associated with him. To get his approval, because he was a Shakur. Tupac hated the Nation of Islam because his family where connected to Malcolm X, and his family blame the Nation for his assassination.

- Became famous to the general public when released 2pacalyspe now, becoming the legendary rapper. Immediately denounced by the Vice President Dan Quayle due to its anti-american political content. It was obvious they knew who he was by his second name, even if the average rap fan didn't.

- Gets mentioned by name at the Republican Nation Convention

- From the help of Mutulu Shakur from prison, starts a movement entitled "Thug Life". Tupac helps enforce truces between rival gangs, including the bloods and the crips under "Thug Life". The plan was to get them to stop killing each other, unite, police their communities, and eventually fight the government. He was seducing gang bangers and trying to turn them into soldiers. After that his life turns to shit and seems to be getting arrested and targeted by police on a weekly basis, most of which is was baseless, but people only remember him getting arrested, not acquitted. His "out of control" image increases.

- Two Police officers are beating a black motorist. Tupac approaches them and they fire shots at him. Tupac goes back to his car and gets his gun and returns fire, hitting both officers, one in the thigh and one in the buttocks. The charges are dropped against Tupac when it turns out both officers are intoxicated, and the gun they used to fire against Tupac was stolen from an evidence locker. Everyone else just remembers "Tupac shot two cops".

- From the help of Dan Quayle and other Republicans, they persuade family members of slain cops to sue Tupac over his music, stating that his music causes the violence. Seriously, here is even a court video of one of the cases against him in 1995

- The republicans convince Time Warner to drop interscope records due to Tupac being one of their artists.
Two criminals, Haitian Jack and James "Henchman" Rosemand try to extort Tupac. He tells them to fuck off and ends up on their hit list. Both later turn out to be working for the FBI since the late 80s until the late 90s.
Haitian Jack (The FBI Agent) introduces Tupac to a woman, the same woman accuses Tupac of rape and sexual assault.

- Tupac gets shot by the orders of James Rosemand (another FBI Agent) 5 times in 1994, survives.

- Goes to prison for sexual assault, but found innocent of rape. Released after 11 months when new evidence helping prove his innocence is found. The prosecution states they "lost it" and it was not deliberate.

- The Jewish Defense League (JDL) threaten to kill Tupac due to his familys politics. He tells them to fuck off. This is in Tupacs (released) FBI files.

- Tupac refuses to remain silent about Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack, announces them as FBI informers, and publicly humiliates any other rappers being extorted by them, or associated with them (Biggie, Puffy, etc).

- This causes many eastcoast rappers and street gangsters to dislike Tupac.

Just some of the main frictions in his life, only scratching the surface. Between Political Parties, Terrorist groups, gangsters, FBI, police officers, gang bangers, Tupac had a lot of enemies.

Dare I say it, he was born to die. And he knew it.

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Links to these facts:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=h7xRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1xIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5317,6985271&dq=dan+quayle+tupac&hl=en

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/02/us/rapper-charged-in-shootings-of-off-duty-officers.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19950928&id=3uNOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Bf0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6714,5657559





http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ez7PBcEO0IM#t=595s

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/tupac_got_jdl_death_threat_fbi_EhnAfB0rVx7FFPcKu9T8vL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OUxQFlaIiSk#t=100s




These reasons(and MANY others) are the exact reasons why I came to conclusion after years of intensive search that Jimmy and Jack had something to do with it, maybe even suge. His last album got him killed, and had the balls to die over the truth.

just listen to the songs Blasphemy, Bomb first..etc.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: drspock825]
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TMJ -- Yes, that's the doc I meant. And I agree Suge knows some stuff. But I doubt he is the "mastermind," so to speak.



drspock825 said:
- At 16 became the youngest national Chairman of the New African panthers, himself then getting FBI attention. His FBI file, only 104 pages out of 4000 are released to the public, the rest 3896 pages are censored for "National Security".




National Security?  Pac? Thug Life, Keep Ya Head Up Pac is related to national security in some way? Does that mean it relates to the security of those people who conspired to kill him? As in, they would not be "secure" if the info was released? :lol:  I :lol: but really it's :grrr:


drspock825 said:

- Quit the New African Panthers when he believed the Nation of Islam infiltrated it, the next leader after Shakur was surprise surprise, a member of the NOI.





- From the help of Mutulu Shakur from prison, starts a movement entitled "Thug Life". Tupac helps enforce truces between rival gangs, including the bloods and the crips under "Thug Life". The plan was to get them to stop killing each other, unite, police their communities, and eventually fight the government. He was seducing gang bangers and trying to turn them into soldiers. After that his life turns to shit and seems to be getting arrested and targeted by police on a weekly basis, most of which is was baseless, but people only remember him getting arrested, not acquitted. His "out of control" image increases.




I find this interesting, and I agree that this would have made him a target. Especially when you consider some believe that gangs are actually part of the control structure. (Divide and conquer among other things.)



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drspock825 said:
- Two Police officers are beating a black motorist. Tupac approaches them and they fire shots at him. Tupac goes back to his car and gets his gun and returns fire, hitting both officers, one in the thigh and one in the buttocks. The charges are dropped against Tupac when it turns out both officers are intoxicated, and the gun they used to fire against Tupac was stolen from an evidence locker. Everyone else just remembers "Tupac shot two cops".




WTF?



Okay, that's a hell of a post you made there, with some stuff I've never heard. Looks like I have some more reading to do (it never ends, for me. :lol:)

Thanks for the links.


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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: CidneyIndole]
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CidneyIndole said:
TMJ -- Yes, that's the doc I meant. And I agree Suge knows some stuff. But I doubt he is the "mastermind," so to speak.



drspock825 said:
- At 16 became the youngest national Chairman of the New African panthers, himself then getting FBI attention. His FBI file, only 104 pages out of 4000 are released to the public, the rest 3896 pages are censored for "National Security".




National Security?  Pac? Thug Life, Keep Ya Head Up Pac is related to national security in some way? Does that mean it relates to the security of those people who conspired to kill him? As in, they would not be "secure" if the info was released? :lol:  I :lol: but really it's :grrr:


drspock825 said:

- Quit the New African Panthers when he believed the Nation of Islam infiltrated it, the next leader after Shakur was surprise surprise, a member of the NOI.





- From the help of Mutulu Shakur from prison, starts a movement entitled "Thug Life". Tupac helps enforce truces between rival gangs, including the bloods and the crips under "Thug Life". The plan was to get them to stop killing each other, unite, police their communities, and eventually fight the government. He was seducing gang bangers and trying to turn them into soldiers. After that his life turns to shit and seems to be getting arrested and targeted by police on a weekly basis, most of which is was baseless, but people only remember him getting arrested, not acquitted. His "out of control" image increases.




I find this interesting, and I agree that this would have made him a target. Especially when you consider some believe that gangs are actually part of the control structure. (Divide and conquer among other things.)



Quote:
drspock825 said:
- Two Police officers are beating a black motorist. Tupac approaches them and they fire shots at him. Tupac goes back to his car and gets his gun and returns fire, hitting both officers, one in the thigh and one in the buttocks. The charges are dropped against Tupac when it turns out both officers are intoxicated, and the gun they used to fire against Tupac was stolen from an evidence locker. Everyone else just remembers "Tupac shot two cops".




WTF?



Okay, that's a hell of a post you made there, with some stuff I've never heard. Looks like I have some more reading to do (it never ends, for me. :lol:)

Thanks for the links.



I think suge could of very well masterminded it. Look at the positions of all the cars at the point of assassination, the car was literally blocked in. It was a well-orchestrated hit, something out of the movies. The whole thing was a setup, clearly. But by whom exactly? Who knows.

And it just "so happens" that when pac gets shot, they are stopped at a red light, turned to their left talking to some hoochies while the car slowly drove up on the right and unloaded. Gimme a break.


--------------------
Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: CidneyIndole]
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Edit -- that article about the off duty cops is giving me a 403: Forbidden


I'm also not sure what you're trying to show with that last link.

I hope the vids are more informative.  :frown:


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