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Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting * 2
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towards the end he goes into his own personal philosophy's. Very powerful.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Does this remind anyone else of the "Gangstalicious" episode of The Boondocks?


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"I feel the same way about disco as I feel about herpes."-Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Man I wish I could check it out but my speakers on this motherfucking desktop are blown. I need some new speakers. But I just saw the Tupac Resurrection documentary the other day in its entirety and it was fucking excellent. The guy was something fucking else, man. He was VERY articulate. Very. And what a hellacious life. In the fast lane the whole way. Dead at 25 but probably lived more in those 25 years than most people do in 90 years if you know what I mean.


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PROFESSIONAL BALL BUFFERER
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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
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To fully understand why hes acting like the way he is, you need to truly know what was going on at the time with him and biggie. Not saying I do, but I went through a phase where I was obsessed at finding out the truth of who killed him because it was such a huge mystery.

My conclusion? Suge Knight and his hired LAPD had him killed because pac changed his agenda and was leaving Desth Row. He then set biggie up to make it look gang-related. Thats why both cases are unsolved, because it was the Death Row/cops that set it all up.

This conclusion is based on countless days and nights awake up all night watching everything I could.



just in case anyone cared.....


edit: yeah niffla I agree 100%. if your a fan you need to see the interview. It sheds so much on what was going on his life.

Here is the actual last interview before his death where he actually talks about the illuminati. Many believe this interview had him killed.



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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

Edited by Bill_Oreilly (10/02/12 11:45 AM)

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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This is for anyone who believes 2pac is alive. There is great evidence he actually could be(although i dont believe it)






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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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TheMushroomJesus said:My conclusion? Suge Knight and his hired LAPD had him killed because pac changed his agenda and was leaving Desth Row. He then set biggie up to make it look gang-related. Thats why both cases are unsolved, because it was the Death Row/cops that set it all up.





Could very well be, man. Suge was/is a devious man. And ruthless. And the LAPD (especially in and around that era) was arguably the most corrupted police force in the United States. You know there were cops (and PLENTY of them) in the force there that could be bought off for the right price.


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ACADEMY AWARD WINNING ACTOR
WG32 KILLED HOFFA
PROFESSIONAL BALL BUFFERER
WORST NEIGHBORHOOD YARD OF 2026 WINNER
OTD’S FORMER PRODIGAL SON
TODAY IS BEER DAY

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
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TheMushroomJesus said:My conclusion? Suge Knight and his hired LAPD had him killed because pac changed his agenda and was leaving Desth Row. He then set biggie up to make it look gang-related. Thats why both cases are unsolved, because it was the Death Row/cops that set it all up.





Could very well be, man. Suge was/is a devious man. And ruthless. And the LAPD (especially in and around that era) was arguably the most corrupted police force in the United States. You know there were cops (and PLENTY of them) in the force there that could be bought off for the right price.




Yeah man, not to mention pac has numerous un-released records suge planned on making millions off of. Tupacs mother had to sue him and Death Row for the rights to those records. Dude had tons, its why hes still coming out with albums.

Its just such a mystery. The strongest evidence against my conclusion is this. Who in their right mind would risk seating themselves directly next to the person they are shooting? Suges a fatass and knows he could of been killed if his shooter wasnt accurate.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Yep. Shit he even got grazed with a bullet.


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ACADEMY AWARD WINNING ACTOR
WG32 KILLED HOFFA
PROFESSIONAL BALL BUFFERER
WORST NEIGHBORHOOD YARD OF 2026 WINNER
OTD’S FORMER PRODIGAL SON
TODAY IS BEER DAY

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Nifflerz]
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in suge's first interview since his death he actually claims the bullet was stuck in his head. Such a liar.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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TheMushroomJesus said:
Niffla said:
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TheMushroomJesus said:My conclusion? Suge Knight and his hired LAPD had him killed because pac changed his agenda and was leaving Desth Row. He then set biggie up to make it look gang-related. Thats why both cases are unsolved, because it was the Death Row/cops that set it all up.





Could very well be, man. Suge was/is a devious man. And ruthless. And the LAPD (especially in and around that era) was arguably the most corrupted police force in the United States. You know there were cops (and PLENTY of them) in the force there that could be bought off for the right price.




Yeah man, not to mention pac has numerous un-released records suge planned on making millions off of. Tupacs mother had to sue him and Death Row for the rights to those records. Dude had tons, its why hes still coming out with albums.



Didn't Eminem produce that Resurrection album? Surprised he didn't get threatened by Suge on that. Well who knows I guess, maybe he did and we just don't know about it.


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:niffla:

ACADEMY AWARD WINNING ACTOR
WG32 KILLED HOFFA
PROFESSIONAL BALL BUFFERER
WORST NEIGHBORHOOD YARD OF 2026 WINNER
OTD’S FORMER PRODIGAL SON
TODAY IS BEER DAY

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Nifflerz]
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2pac had aids, he planned his own death, including his cremation, so nobody would ever know.  He didn't want to go out like Easy E


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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
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I bet if Tupac were alive today he'd be bringing back the real black panthers. Not the nigga equivalent of the KKK, but an organisation that helps everyone up and out.

Just like any organisation, it gets corrupted. Occupy, tea party, and I bet when they get more popular UKIP will be fucked with to.


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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Visionary Tools]
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I liked the interview

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: ChemicalBond]
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I'm waiting for the day he comes back without his nose ring

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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hey man good post! this is sick! not to sound all :scumbagsteve:, but pac is seriously one of my favourite people


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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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TheMushroomJesus said:





Watch this interview guys you will love it, he talks about the Illuminati, getting into politics, setting up youth centers...this guy was a FORCE. He could not be stopped. Please give it a chance :thumbup:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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I used to believe Nick Broomfield's version of the events (watch his doc if you haven't -- it's pretty good.)  But I'm not sure I buy that anymore.

Suge Knight says in an interview that if he knew who killed pac, he wouldn't say. Because "it's not my job to solve homicides."  I think the real reason is that he was terrified. Yep -- big ole intimidating, gang-connected suge knight was scared for his life. It's no accident he was giving that interview from PRISON. Look into how Death Row records got started. How NWA's career seemed to come almost out of nowhere. Ask yourself whether any of this may have served a political agenda at the time (it did.)

Is it a coincidence Pac is talking about the illuminati in that video not long before he got killed? That was right after the FIRST attempt on his life, wasn't it?  Why do you suppose he started studying machiavelli?  Why do you suppose he named his last album KILLuminati?

But I'm sure that's totally a coincidence.

There is absolutely no evidence of a modern branch of the illuminati.

None.




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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: CidneyIndole]
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No it's just a coincidence theroy! :P


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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: CidneyIndole]
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CidneyIndole said:
I used to believe Nick Broomfield's version of the events (watch his doc if you haven't -- it's pretty good.)  But I'm not sure I buy that anymore.

Suge Knight says in an interview that if he knew who killed pac, he wouldn't say. Because "it's not my job to solve homicides."  I think the real reason is that he was terrified. Yep -- big ole intimidating, gang-connected suge knight was scared for his life. It's no accident he was giving that interview from PRISON. Look into how Death Row records got started. How NWA's career seemed to come almost out of nowhere. Ask yourself whether any of this may have served a political agenda at the time (it did.)

Is it a coincidence Pac is talking about the illuminati in that video not long before he got killed? That was right after the FIRST attempt on his life, wasn't it?  Why do you suppose he started studying machiavelli?  Why do you suppose he named his last album KILLuminati?

But I'm sure that's totally a coincidence.

There is absolutely no evidence of a modern branch of the illuminati.

None.







Thats what pac said, thats why he put the K to Illuminati. He knew it was just another way to make you un-confident in yourself, so he was killing that shit. Suge did say that from jail, but i think its because he had to say it because he didnt want to be known as a snitch. He was just trying to act hard, afterall he was in jail. IMHO. How would it look if he responded "yes i would tell on who did it"?

Doesnt change my conclusion that he was in on it. Is the documentary the one by that British guy? If so i have seen it. Theres just such a huge mystery and i know i could very well be wrong. If suge didnt have anything to do with it, i believe cops/other staff on Death Row did. I believe he was either assassinated because Suge could profit, or simply some white man didnt want him going into politics, like pac promised. In his last interview he says "I PROMISE ill be so far where im at in 4 years..God willing im alive, i plan on changing the world. I GUARANTEE we WILL have our own political party"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Tupac's last VIBE interview, interesting [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Auto-Summary
Tupac Shakur, born into a politically volatile family, spent his childhood on the run from the FBI due to his stepfather's involvement in domestic terrorism. His music developed a paranoid tone, and in 1996, he received a letter expressing his fear of dying young. Despite making it to 21, Tupac's life was filled with numerous threats and conflicts, including his association with the Nation of Islam, his experiences with the FBI, and his involvement in gang-related issues. He was shot multiple times, survived a JDL death threat, and faced lawsuits from families of slain police officers. Tupac's life was marked by constant danger and political intrigue, ultimately leading to his untimely death.

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/103xo4/til_rapper_tupac_shakur_received_a_letter_from/

This is a post from that thread on reddit:

He always thought he was going to die young, and his paranoid (but very real) mindset obviously is a factor on how much he recorded.

His music developed a very paranoid tone. In July of 1996 a home movie was shot of Tupac in the studio, and his paranoia was on its way to its highest point. "We don't have the time or the luxury to spend all this time on one track. We Don't!" Tupac said frantically, his arms waving around as the orange glow of his cigarette followed.

He wasn't wrong, two months later he would be dead.

Gloria Cox, one of his first managers said that he sad/happy on his 21st birthday, because he made it to 21, and never thought he would. She begged him to stop thinking like that as it was like "death was his twin".

Tupac was fucked from the beginning though. He had too many enemies and came from too much of a volatile political family. He spent most of his childhood on the run from the FBI as they where tracking his step father Mutulu Shakur who was on the ten most wanted list for domestic terrorism. His own mother, spent time in prison on a trial for plotting to blow up New York police departments with the infamous panther 21. His God father was geronimo pratt who was targeted by the FBI illegal Cointelpro. And his god mother is Assata Shakur who is also wanted for domestic terrorism, that Tupacs step-dad broke her out of prison and is now living in Cuba. Bush in 2003 put a $1 million reward on her head during the revival of targeting domestic terrorists at the start of the war on terror. In 2011, Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly had an argument over her, as Obama invited an artist to the white house who supported Assata Shakur. Fox was trying to make that out that by default the president supports her too. Tupac comes from a very serious committed family, and as a teenager he was the national chairman of the new african panthers, so he was on route to be the next leader of the movement.

Lets look at Tupacs life.

- Spent his childhood running from the FBI due to the actions of the Shakurs.

- At 16 became the youngest national Chairman of the New African panthers, himself then getting FBI attention. His FBI file, only 104 pages out of 4000 are released to the public, the rest 3896 pages are censored for "National Security".

- Quit the New African Panthers when he believed the Nation of Islam infiltrated it, the next leader after Shakur was surprise surprise, a member of the NOI.

- Got into a constant war of words with the Nation of Islam throughout his rap career. They would follow him everywhere, trying to make it look like they where associated with him. To get his approval, because he was a Shakur. Tupac hated the Nation of Islam because his family where connected to Malcolm X, and his family blame the Nation for his assassination.

- Became famous to the general public when released 2pacalyspe now, becoming the legendary rapper. Immediately denounced by the Vice President Dan Quayle due to its anti-american political content. It was obvious they knew who he was by his second name, even if the average rap fan didn't.

- Gets mentioned by name at the Republican Nation Convention

- From the help of Mutulu Shakur from prison, starts a movement entitled "Thug Life". Tupac helps enforce truces between rival gangs, including the bloods and the crips under "Thug Life". The plan was to get them to stop killing each other, unite, police their communities, and eventually fight the government. He was seducing gang bangers and trying to turn them into soldiers. After that his life turns to shit and seems to be getting arrested and targeted by police on a weekly basis, most of which is was baseless, but people only remember him getting arrested, not acquitted. His "out of control" image increases.

- Two Police officers are beating a black motorist. Tupac approaches them and they fire shots at him. Tupac goes back to his car and gets his gun and returns fire, hitting both officers, one in the thigh and one in the buttocks. The charges are dropped against Tupac when it turns out both officers are intoxicated, and the gun they used to fire against Tupac was stolen from an evidence locker. Everyone else just remembers "Tupac shot two cops".

- From the help of Dan Quayle and other Republicans, they persuade family members of slain cops to sue Tupac over his music, stating that his music causes the violence. Seriously, here is even a court video of one of the cases against him in 1995

- The republicans convince Time Warner to drop interscope records due to Tupac being one of their artists.
Two criminals, Haitian Jack and James "Henchman" Rosemand try to extort Tupac. He tells them to fuck off and ends up on their hit list. Both later turn out to be working for the FBI since the late 80s until the late 90s.
Haitian Jack (The FBI Agent) introduces Tupac to a woman, the same woman accuses Tupac of rape and sexual assault.

- Tupac gets shot by the orders of James Rosemand (another FBI Agent) 5 times in 1994, survives.

- Goes to prison for sexual assault, but found innocent of rape. Released after 11 months when new evidence helping prove his innocence is found. The prosecution states they "lost it" and it was not deliberate.

- The Jewish Defense League (JDL) threaten to kill Tupac due to his familys politics. He tells them to fuck off. This is in Tupacs (released) FBI files.

- Tupac refuses to remain silent about Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack, announces them as FBI informers, and publicly humiliates any other rappers being extorted by them, or associated with them (Biggie, Puffy, etc).

- This causes many eastcoast rappers and street gangsters to dislike Tupac.

Just some of the main frictions in his life, only scratching the surface. Between Political Parties, Terrorist groups, gangsters, FBI, police officers, gang bangers, Tupac had a lot of enemies.

Dare I say it, he was born to die. And he knew it.

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Links to these facts:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=h7xRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1xIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5317,6985271&dq=dan+quayle+tupac&hl=en

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/02/us/rapper-charged-in-shootings-of-off-duty-officers.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19950928&id=3uNOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Bf0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6714,5657559





http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ez7PBcEO0IM#t=595s

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/tupac_got_jdl_death_threat_fbi_EhnAfB0rVx7FFPcKu9T8vL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OUxQFlaIiSk#t=100s

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