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Citizenship in a different country?
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Me and my wife are thinking of moving to England.

We'd only be able to go with about 3,000$ cash saved up. (Hit a bank and exchange it for their currency, so whatever the exchange rate is.)

How hard is it to get citizenship in a different country?

How long would we have to get citizenship, before they deport us?

Would my daughter get it easier/easily? (We'd go when she was around a year old.)

Is it hard to pick up a job in a different country as an alien citizen?

Who gives me/wife/daughter a visa to be there? America, or England?

I'd be more than happy to google all of this, but it'd take me hours to get all that information above ^ and I don't have hours.

Maybe someone here has done this? If not, then just ignore this thread.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Bundy]
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You'd probably need a job established pretty quickly. Visit/contact their embassy for the details, and you'd need a visa from the English I'm betting. Why bail on the USA? Britain is just a suckier version :smuglook: Believe that


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And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Edited by JesusIsLord (09/02/12 10:51 AM)

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Bundy] * 1
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to become a citizen in the US and most countries you'll have to show the
ability to support yourself for an extended period of time, usually a couple
of years without having to work, you'll also have to have a sponsor willing to
sign off on you as a good candidate for citizenship and will neeed a job lined
up before you even arrive


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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The UK is great to visit although I would be hesitant about living there the job situation is even worse than the US. Also your three grand could go alot further in a south american nation like Chile.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Bundy]
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OP gets government assistance unless I'm mistaken..

IDK if another country is going to want someone who will be draining their social welfare funds when they got enough natural citizens using it. :shrug:

Apparently I got half German citizenship.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Bundy]
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Bundy said:
Me and my wife are thinking of moving to England.

We'd only be able to go with about 3,000$ cash saved up. (Hit a bank and exchange it for their currency, so whatever the exchange rate is.)

How hard is it to get citizenship in a different country?

How long would we have to get citizenship, before they deport us?

Would my daughter get it easier/easily? (We'd go when she was around a year old.)

Is it hard to pick up a job in a different country as an alien citizen?

Who gives me/wife/daughter a visa to be there? America, or England?

I'd be more than happy to google all of this, but it'd take me hours to get all that information above ^ and I don't have hours.

Maybe someone here has done this? If not, then just ignore this thread.


If you are seriously considering becoming a citizen of another country you might as well spend some time reading on it

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/


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Edited by Constantine (09/02/12 11:21 AM)

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Constantine]
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A permanent residency/citizenship for any country takes time and if your applying on your own right and a company you work for is not applying for you it will take a year or 2 just to move along with the process.

You will need to have more money and be able to prove you can live there without work and assistance. The easiest and most streamline way to begin this long process would be getting a tourist visa and visiting there for the 3-6 month limit they provide you with. Look for a cheap place that you may possibly live and get to know the laws. Than go to an British Immigration office and ask them how you would get duel citizenship. You would would need to provide them with lots of paperwork and also pay for all the documents just to begin. Would not be easier for your daughter would not make a difference unless you or your wife were already British citizens. You can also apply for the citizenship here in the US but you need to have at least visited the UK once before applying, most countries require this.

You cannot work legally work there without a work visa and overstaying your tourist visa is illegal and you will be out of status and deported if caught; you would be like an illegal immigrant in the US. Once you have your citizenship or at least a work visa you work as long as work is available. I'm not sure how the job market is there.

England would give you the VISA you apply for it here at a British Consulate before ever buying your ticket. You can risk it and go without a visa but you maybe denied there and immediately deported back.


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Edited by modern.shaman (09/02/12 11:47 AM)

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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I'd also pick south america over europe if I were to bail on the US.

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: DieCommie]
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Pretty sure most of the time USA doesn't allow dual citizenship - knowingly. Expats are no bueno amigo. I agree with the above, South America would be cheaper - check out Peru or Brazil


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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Of course the US allows dual citizen ship.  The US is all about immigration and multiculturalism.

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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JesusIsLord said:
Pretty sure most of the time USA doesn't allow dual citizenship - knowingly. Expats are no bueno amigo. I agree with the above, South America would be cheaper - check out Peru or Brazil


I said earlier I hold half german citizenship. You are wrong.


Anyway, I've heard before that the UK is one of the hardest countries for foreigners to attempt to become permanent in.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Everlong]
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Everlong said:
JesusIsLord said:
Pretty sure most of the time USA doesn't allow dual citizenship - knowingly. Expats are no bueno amigo. I agree with the above, South America would be cheaper - check out Peru or Brazil


I said earlier I hold half german citizenship. You are wrong.


Anyway, I've heard before that the UK is one of the hardest countries for foreigners to attempt to become permanent in.


And as someone else said, there's no such thing as half citizenship :aaaargh:

And Japan is probably the hardest to become a foreign born citizen in


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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I would say France is the hardest but IDK really.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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JesusIsLord said:
Everlong said:
JesusIsLord said:
Pretty sure most of the time USA doesn't allow dual citizenship - knowingly. Expats are no bueno amigo. I agree with the above, South America would be cheaper - check out Peru or Brazil


I said earlier I hold half german citizenship. You are wrong.


Anyway, I've heard before that the UK is one of the hardest countries for foreigners to attempt to become permanent in.


And as someone else said, there's no such thing as half citizenship :aaaargh:

And Japan is probably the hardest to become a foreign born citizen in


It's called dual citizenship, sorry I said "half" instead of dual.

And actually Japan is one of the easier countries to even attempt to live in if you are a US citizen. The UK has much stricter visa laws.

:douchewink:


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Everlong]
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And actually Japan is one of the easier countries to even attempt to live in if you are a US citizen.


Easy to live in, but maybe hard to become a citizen.  I tend to think of Japan as a pretty racist and mono-cultured place, so I assume they don't like giving out citizenships.

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Everlong]
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Everlong said:
JesusIsLord said:
Everlong said:
JesusIsLord said:
Pretty sure most of the time USA doesn't allow dual citizenship - knowingly. Expats are no bueno amigo. I agree with the above, South America would be cheaper - check out Peru or Brazil


I said earlier I hold half german citizenship. You are wrong.


Anyway, I've heard before that the UK is one of the hardest countries for foreigners to attempt to become permanent in.


And as someone else said, there's no such thing as half citizenship :aaaargh:

And Japan is probably the hardest to become a foreign born citizen in


It's called dual citizenship, sorry I said "half" instead of dual.

And actually Japan is one of the easier countries to even attempt to live in if you are a US citizen. The UK has much stricter visa laws.

:douchewink:


I parse words :noargument:

You are addressing something different than I am - sure it may be easier to live in Japan - I said it was one of the hardest to be a CITIZEN in - different.

:douchewink:


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And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

Edited by JesusIsLord (09/02/12 01:21 PM)

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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: JesusIsLord]
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I still believe Japan is easier to become a citizen of then compared to the UK.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Bundy]
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Pro tip


NO ONE WANTS ANOTHER HUNGRY MONTH TO FEED


You are a liability period end your "crazy " as shit on all these med barely can work in section 8 housing and were on ssi .


So learn to make yourself usefully learn a trade or go to school for some usefull that isn't a liberal art other wise your moving to the third world.

Most countries you would want to live in require you to have an insane amount of capital on hang (like 3 years worth of living expenses ) Unless you get refuge status or some bullshit which you wont as your a white kid from the burbs .



People want to leave this country until they go overseas why not work at fixing the one your in :shrug:


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: DieCommie]
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Seriously Chile is one hell of a place especially Santiago. If the US goes down hill thats were il be.


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Re: Citizenship in a different country? [Re: Everlong]
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Everlong said:
I still believe Japan is easier to become a citizen of then compared to the UK.


You are wrong. It's actually pretty easy to become a british citizen.

Japanese people don't like to mix with foreigners, as said above they don't like giving out citizenships, you better be fluent and know everything about the country's history before you can even begin to hope asking for it.

modern.shaman said:
I would say France is the hardest but IDK really.


It's not particularly harder than any other european country, as long you have a regular income, speak the language and have lived in the country for a couple years it's possible


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