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Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas?
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My friend seems to think that celebrating christmas means you're not an Atheist.

He say's seeing as Atheism is a lack of belief in any deity's, celebrating christmas means celebrating Jesus' birth which means you're celebrating a christian holiday which means you're not an Atheist.

I say it does not mean i believe in a deity, but he says you're celebrating god's son which means you're believing in God. But i do not believe celebrating Jesus' birth means you believe in him.

Please, please give your opinions.
Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas?
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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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Celebration of Christmas means whatever you want it to mean.


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Edited by Amoeboid (03/08/12 03:27 PM)

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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I blame culture. Christmas is a corporate scam...

I think that in today's world, most people celebrate xmas, and really the holidays in general, for an excuse to party with good friends and family.

Santa Claus > Jesus


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: G-Cotty]
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Presents > Santa Claus > Jesus

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Hobozen]
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The beauty of being an atheist is that you can choose what to celebrate and what not to celebrate. You are not bound by a religion.


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Patlal]
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He said by accepting presents, you therefore celebrate jesus' death because christmas wouldn't exist if it wasn't based on that concept

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am] * 1
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Will i am said:
He said by accepting presents, you therefore celebrate jesus' death because christmas wouldn't exist if it wasn't based on that concept


Jesus death was indeed a gift to the world.


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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That never came to mind.  Maybe I should dig deeper within my subconscious to find that mystical celebration that's going on in my head that I have no clue about.

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Patlal]
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lol i meant to say birth obviously

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Patlal]
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Christmas is such a huge tradition. There's plenty of atheists including myself who enjoys fellowship, booze, and good food with family and friends during the christmas season. No mention of Jesus at our "x-mas" shindigs.


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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For the last time, christmas has nothing to do with christianity.


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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I celebrate it as a nice gathering of family.

Also, Jesus was not born on December 25th.

Or you could just be a badass and celebrate Mithra's birthday, which is on the 25th.



Jesus as a reincarnation of Mithra?


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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Will i am said:
He said by accepting presents, you therefore celebrate jesus' death because christmas wouldn't exist if it wasn't based on that concept


What if the person giving you the gift is also an atheist and they are only giving you the gift because they like you and want to see you smile?


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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Celebrating Christmas is not really the same as celebrating the birth of Jesus, for a lot of people the holiday has very little to do with religion. On top of that, it's quite possible that even someone who believes that Jesus was a real person worthy of celebrating (as a great philosopher or whatever) might not actually believe in God. Purists can be kind of annoying sometimes.

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: psi]
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psi said:
Celebrating Christmas is not really the same as celebrating the birth of Jesus, for a lot of people the holiday has very little to do with religion. On top of that, it's quite possible that even someone who believes that Jesus was a real person worthy of celebrating (as a great philosopher or whatever) might not actually believe in God. Purists can be kind of annoying sometimes.


:mad2: this what i keep telling him but he keeps saying that if you celebrate christmas then you celebrate jesus which means you celebrate god, ignorant fuck.

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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Will i am said:
psi said:
Celebrating Christmas is not really the same as celebrating the birth of Jesus, for a lot of people the holiday has very little to do with religion. On top of that, it's quite possible that even someone who believes that Jesus was a real person worthy of celebrating (as a great philosopher or whatever) might not actually believe in God. Purists can be kind of annoying sometimes.


:mad2: this what i keep telling him but he keeps saying that if you celebrate christmas then you celebrate jesus which means you celebrate god, ignorant fuck.


Your friend is silly.


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Amoeboid]
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I'm an atheist and I "celebrate " x-mas. I exchange gifts and eat hella good food. The words christ, jesus, god, or bible never come out of my mouth.


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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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Will i am said:
:mad2: this what i keep telling him but he keeps saying that if you celebrate christmas then you celebrate jesus which means you celebrate god, ignorant fuck.


Is your friend arguing this because he considers himself an atheist? Seems to me like that position presupposes that Jesus is in fact God.

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: psi]
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You can label yourself as whatever the hell you want, within your ability.

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Re: Can you label yourself as an Atheist if you celebrate christmas? [Re: Will i am]
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Doesn't matter. Label yourself whatever you want to label yourself.


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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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