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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Speck1186]
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Speck1186 said:
love2shpongleIRL said:
Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.


You're okay with stepping on others as long as you're comfortable? What if the shoe was on the other foot?


Isn't this the American way though?


It doesn't have to be.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
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love2shpongleIRL said:
Speck1186 said:
love2shpongleIRL said:
Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.


You're okay with stepping on others as long as you're comfortable? What if the shoe was on the other foot?


Isn't this the American way though?


It doesn't have to be.


Of course not but it is instilled in most of our society. It's sad really.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Speck1186]
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Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.


:congrats:


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: DeadHearts] * 2
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DeadHearts said:
Prisoner#1 said:
DeadHearts said:
Prisoner#1 said:
how long have the terrorists been fighting us?


Not long enough....

Wait its been quite a while. Would you like to start with the zealots of Judea? :lol:



so what you're saying is you'll pull anything out of your ass as opposed to answering the question



Im not going to answer you this time. You and I both know the answer to your question.



so you're going to do as you always do...

in order to answer your question we must first understand where and when it started


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: love2shpongleIRL] * 1
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I thought the whole reason for this war was because of America's support for Jerusalem (mainly) and Bin Laden justified 9/11 by saying those killed weren't innocent because they voted in the government that helped the Jews kill Palestinians.  Right?


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: PreparationH]
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What war are you talking about?


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: PreparationH] * 2
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PreparationH said:
I thought the whole reason for this war was because of America's support for Jerusalem (mainly) and Bin Laden justified 9/11 by saying those killed weren't innocent because they voted in the government that helped the Jews kill Palestinians.  Right?



sounds no different than 'they hate us for our freedoms'


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: love2shpongleIRL] * 5
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Its a game of chess where the pawns think they are the knight
love2shpongleIRL said:
Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.


You're okay with stepping on others as long as you're comfortable? What if the shoe was on the other foot?


I am a realist.

I am comfortable, i have food in my belly, electricity, warmth and a roof over head.

While its a pretty shitty state of affairs that in order to claim the above our nations need to rape smaller nations...thats the way it is.

But i guarentee that when the shoe IS on the other foot, and our civilisation is going the way of all past civilisations, you and people like you in your happy, comfortable middle class little lives will be the first to rant and rave about 'the good old days'.

An empty belly makes you forget about your beliefs and crusades behind your computer screen pretty damn quickly.

What exactly are you doing to change the world any way?

Seems to me you are happy to exploit the benefits of our current way of life just as much i am.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Soldier of Fortune]
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Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.




Actually the scam is better than that, we send them back fiat paper money that has just been printed up, they are just figuring out this paper is not going to be worth much in a few years.

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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Soldier of Fortune]
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Soldier of Fortune said:
Its a game of chess where the pawns think they are the knight
love2shpongleIRL said:
Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.


You're okay with stepping on others as long as you're comfortable? What if the shoe was on the other foot?


I am a realist.

I am comfortable, i have food in my belly, electricity, warmth and a roof over head.

While its a pretty shitty state of affairs that in order to claim the above our nations need to rape smaller nations...thats the way it is.

But i guarentee that when the shoe IS on the other foot, and our civilisation is going the way of all past civilisations, you and people like you in your happy, comfortable middle class little lives will be the first to rant and rave about 'the good old days'.

An empty belly makes you forget about your beliefs and crusades behind your computer screen pretty damn quickly.

What exactly are you doing to change the world any way?

Seems to me you are happy to exploit the benefits of our current way of life just as much i am.


You my friend are just like every other american. You step on feet to get ahead. Why can't people just realize that you don't NEED that house and house full of SHIT! I'd be totally happy to be living in the woods with the rainbow tribe. Living off of what there given. But it's only because I receive so much shit from my ol lady's family that WE don't. But we may within the year. JS tho your ok with it because your use to it and  it's not directly effecting you.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
I thought the whole reason for this war was because of America's support for Jerusalem (mainly) and Bin Laden justified 9/11 by saying those killed weren't innocent because they voted in the government that helped the Jews kill Palestinians.  Right?


That is the official narrative, yup. Im a tin-foiler though, who knows why but it's apparent our involvement seems to go deeper than that.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
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Really?  Cause I thought that was the reasons Osama Bin Laden gave in a letter to the citizens of the United States.


edit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Speck1186]
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Speck1186 said:
Soldier of Fortune said:
Its a game of chess where the pawns think they are the knight
love2shpongleIRL said:
Soldier of Fortune said:
Shit, im all for the wars in the middle east that are going on at the moment.

If installing...semi friendly dictatorships in oil rich countries keeps the price at the pumps down in the west then go nuts.

Like it or not we live in a society where our society can only stand as long as we have dirt poor countries exporting vast portions of their natural resources to us in exchange for shitty consumer products they dont need.

What pisses me off is being lied to.

The day i see them say the above on the news instead of all the juvenile 'we are fighting them because they hate our freedoms and to free the happy people of 'insert name of country that has something we need' and bring them democracy!' juvenile bullshit is the day i stop being pissed at the media.


You're okay with stepping on others as long as you're comfortable? What if the shoe was on the other foot?


I am a realist.

I am comfortable, i have food in my belly, electricity, warmth and a roof over head.

While its a pretty shitty state of affairs that in order to claim the above our nations need to rape smaller nations...thats the way it is.

But i guarentee that when the shoe IS on the other foot, and our civilisation is going the way of all past civilisations, you and people like you in your happy, comfortable middle class little lives will be the first to rant and rave about 'the good old days'.

An empty belly makes you forget about your beliefs and crusades behind your computer screen pretty damn quickly.

What exactly are you doing to change the world any way?

Seems to me you are happy to exploit the benefits of our current way of life just as much i am.


You my friend are just like every other american. You step on feet to get ahead. Why can't people just realize that you don't NEED that house and house full of SHIT! I'd be totally happy to be living in the woods with the rainbow tribe. Living off of what there given. But it's only because I receive so much shit from my ol lady's family that WE don't. But we may within the year. JS tho your ok with it because your use to it and  it's not directly effecting you.


You are aware that there are...300 million or so people in the US alone right?

When the day you hope and prey for comes along i hope you dont mind people kicking in your front door for your last can of baked beans.

And if you survive all that fun and games i hope you dont mind dead bodies laying around.

Lots of dead bodies.

Oh, and im british by the way, call me a yank again and ill hunt you down and crucify you.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: qman]
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when I get off an airplane in my country I don't take off my shoes, I don't get x-rayed and I don't get fondled by a sad sweaty man in big blue gloves.

Land of the Free and the home of the brave, my arse!

If that's freedom you can keep it..


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Speck1186] * 1
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Speck1186 said:
You my friend are just like every other american. You step on feet to get ahead. Why can't people just realize that you don't NEED that house and house full of SHIT! I'd be totally happy to be living in the woods with the rainbow tribe.



so who is stopping you?


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Living off of what there given. But it's only because I receive so much shit from my ol lady's family that WE don't. But we may within the year. JS tho your ok with it because your use to it and  it's not directly effecting you.


so you're not committed to the way of life that means you're simply a
sponge on society begging for handouts, you allow pressure from others to
dictate you life as though someone else is forcing you to conform to the
societal norms... excuses


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Soldier of Fortune]
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Jesus, dont even get me started on 9/11.

Its all a fucking game of chess.

Everything.

Geo Political Strategy.

But most of the pawns havnt even heard that there is a game called chess.


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
Really?  Cause I thought that was the reasons Osama Bin Laden gave in a letter to the citizens of the United States.


edit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver


Who knows if he even wrote it. I don't know what to believe, but the sick feeling in my gut tells me I am being lied to. :shrug:


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
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Relevant music -- metal [Watchtower -- Tyrants in Distress -- Energetic Disassembly]

Tyrants control-overwhelming,overbearing
Rebels are marching- into their midst
To bring them down-and cease the cruelty
Do as they wish-and remember only fear
The reign of tyranny falls,with a thunderous crash..
The swords,and axes of the rebels, are drenched with blood...
Tyrants in distress
Bringing chaos, bringing turmoil
Bringing death to the powerful kings
Breaking their sculls,breaking their bones..
Killing is foremost on the rebels minds
The panic the panic,the tyrants can feel,rebellious thirst for blood,cannot
Be quenched
Death to the bastards of tyranny, give them to hell, you rebel missionaries!
Conformist slaughtered,where they stand...
Recalcitrance...is the rebels battle cry..
They scream it, at the wretched tyrants..
And find the end to the power hungry authorities
Who are no more....

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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Speck1186 said:
You my friend are just like every other american. You step on feet to get ahead. Why can't people just realize that you don't NEED that house and house full of SHIT! I'd be totally happy to be living in the woods with the rainbow tribe.



so who is stopping you?


Quote:
Living off of what there given. But it's only because I receive so much shit from my ol lady's family that WE don't. But we may within the year. JS tho your ok with it because your use to it and  it's not directly effecting you.


so you're not committed to the way of life that means you're simply a
sponge on society begging for handouts, you allow pressure from others to
dictate you life as though someone else is forcing you to conform to the
societal norms... excuses


No NO I do my part. There is no begging for what I'm talking about. Her family just shit talks so much. They think I'm useless and can't see things that i had in the past and then how shit went downhill... Honestly i'm 25 my lady is 20 and pregnant. Basically it boils down to i'm the guy who knocked up their daughter... Better...


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Re: Bradley Manning charged [Re: Speck1186]
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Well...you are the guy that knocked up their daughter without a pot to piss in.


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