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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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Is this all truly anonymous?: Probably not. To the horse’s mouth, we go.

Update: Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.

“Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb,” he says.
Though he may be saying that because Bitcoin hopes to be viewed as a legitimate business

source: http://thenewsjunkie.com/2011/06/inside-the-deep-web-my-journey-through-the-new-underground/

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: drSE]
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Only if you don't cover your tracks and use the same receive address more than once while not on Tor.  As well as taking the proper precautionary measures, SR has a sort of "bitcoin tumbler" that further increases anonymity.

I've been in the SR chat for almost two months now and talk to some of the large volume vendors on a daily basis, and none of them have ever been busted by LE.  It's pretty airtight if you know what you're doing.  Now, I will say that if you're doing bitcoin transactions for illegal things, and the amounts are 5-6 digits(which is pretty crazy in and of itself for the types of transactions on there), that yea statistical analysis could be used.  At that point however, most people running those types of 6+ figure operations have much more than one site/source handling all of their finances... similar to IOP's and how you have a different recipients for Moneygram/WesternUnion.


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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: drSE]
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drSE said:
Is this all truly anonymous?: Probably not. To the horse’s mouth, we go.

Update: Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.

“Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb,” he says.
Though he may be saying that because Bitcoin hopes to be viewed as a legitimate business

source: http://thenewsjunkie.com/2011/06/inside-the-deep-web-my-journey-through-the-new-underground/


Seems more of an empty threat to me. Hundreds, if not thousands, of illegal transactions are being made every single day, using Bitcoins. I honestly think they're focusing more on other types of illegal activities, since it would be hard as hell to track down those illegal transactions and would cost a lot of money as well. At least, that's what I think.

But about exploring the Deep Web even deeper - either with Tor or in an other way: does anyone knows how to do this or at least give us a hint? Is there even a 'deeper' layer of the web than Tor? My guess is that there are MANY more things, far beyond our imagination, in the underlayers of the internet...

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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Zorro said:
drSE said:
Is this all truly anonymous?: Probably not. To the horse’s mouth, we go.

Update: Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.

“Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb,” he says.
Though he may be saying that because Bitcoin hopes to be viewed as a legitimate business

source: http://thenewsjunkie.com/2011/06/inside-the-deep-web-my-journey-through-the-new-underground/


Seems more of an empty threat to me. Hundreds, if not thousands, of illegal transactions are being made every single day, using Bitcoins. I honestly think they're focusing more on other types of illegal activities, since it would be hard as hell to track down those illegal transactions and would cost a lot of money as well. At least, that's what I think.

But about exploring the Deep Web even deeper - either with Tor or in an other way: does anyone knows how to do this or at least give us a hint? Is there even a 'deeper' layer of the web than Tor? My guess is that there are MANY more things, far beyond our imagination, in the underlayers of the internet...


Would you like to take the red pill or the blue pill?


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Edited by RonaldFuckingPaul (02/07/12 08:44 PM)

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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If the Xbox works you should be able to sell them for about 50 each.. I used to sell alot
of older gaming systems on Craig's list.  The market is there. I love my Atari .
Good luck with btc's

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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Quote:
reeferaddict69 said:Would you like to take the red pill or the blue pill?



What pill did what again? Fuck it, I'll take them both.

But seriously, I really want to explore the Deep Web much, much more further. I guess the best thing to is to keep reading about these sorts of things. Reading about it is what got me there in the first place.

Nevertheless, if anyone has some good information about further exploring the underlayers of the internet: please share them, I'm sure that I'm not the only one on this board that's interested in this subject.


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Zorro, Zorro, who makes the sign of the Z.

Zorro sàz:
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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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Zorro said:
Quote:
reeferaddict69 said:Would you like to take the red pill or the blue pill?



What pill did what again? Fuck it, I'll take them both.

But seriously, I really want to explore the Deep Web much, much more further. I guess the best thing to is to keep reading about these sorts of things. Reading about it is what got me there in the first place.

Nevertheless, if anyone has some good information about further exploring the underlayers of the internet: please share them, I'm sure that I'm not the only one on this board that's interested in this subject.


Anything in particular you are looking for?  People summoning demons during human child sacrifice?


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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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reeferaddict69 said:Anything in particular you are looking for?  People summoning demons during human child sacrifice?


All sorts of illegal activity. The lack of social control in the Deep Web tends to intrigue me in some way...


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Zorro, Zorro, the fox so cunning and free,
Zorro, Zorro, who makes the sign of the Z.

Zorro sàz:
Consuming tropane alkaloids is like using Windows XP.

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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Zorro said:
Quote:
reeferaddict69 said:Anything in particular you are looking for?  People summoning demons during human child sacrifice?


All sorts of illegal activity. The lack of social control in the Deep Web tends to intrigue me in some way...


Don't go too deep down the rabbit hole.:ancientaliens:


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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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reeferaddict69 said:
Zorro said:
Quote:
reeferaddict69 said:Anything in particular you are looking for?  People summoning demons during human child sacrifice?


All sorts of illegal activity. The lack of social control in the Deep Web tends to intrigue me in some way...


Don't go too deep down the rabbit hole.:ancientaliens:


Fuck that. I want to jump head first into the rabbit hole.

Do you have any information on how to "go deeper"?


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Zorro, Zorro, the fox so cunning and free,
Zorro, Zorro, who makes the sign of the Z.

Zorro sàz:
Consuming tropane alkaloids is like using Windows XP.

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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Zorro said:
reeferaddict69 said:
Zorro said:
Quote:
reeferaddict69 said:Anything in particular you are looking for?  People summoning demons during human child sacrifice?


All sorts of illegal activity. The lack of social control in the Deep Web tends to intrigue me in some way...


Don't go too deep down the rabbit hole.:ancientaliens:


Fuck that. I want to jump head first into the rabbit hole.

Do you have any information on how to "go deeper"?


Not really.  I'd be interested to know though.  I am very mentally fragile.


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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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Summary: Inerested->deep web- > mentally fragile o.0 :awenuhuh:

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: drSE]
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drSE said:
Summary: Inerested->deep web- > mentally fragile o.0 :awenuhuh:


:underage:


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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
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5HTSynaptrip said:
Only if you don't cover your tracks and use the same receive address more than once while not on Tor.  As well as taking the proper precautionary measures, SR has a sort of "bitcoin tumbler" that further increases anonymity.

I've been in the SR chat for almost two months now and talk to some of the large volume vendors on a daily basis, and none of them have ever been busted by LE.  It's pretty airtight if you know what you're doing.  Now, I will say that if you're doing bitcoin transactions for illegal things, and the amounts are 5-6 digits(which is pretty crazy in and of itself for the types of transactions on there), that yea statistical analysis could be used.  At that point however, most people running those types of 6+ figure operations have much more than one site/source handling all of their finances... similar to IOP's and how you have a different recipients for Moneygram/WesternUnion.


what's the state of the SR these days? what's that btc tumbler you mentioned and how does it work? after reading this thread a couple days ago i decided to go there again after not being there for like a year. i saw the site was a bit more organized but the only section i checked was the lsd section and prices there were still absolutely ridiculous. i then went on  the forums and saw a section for the deceased ovdb and how some vendors might move to the sr. i think that should bring down prices, no? also, what would happen to your btc if you have your account on sr funded with a few hundred/thousand of them and the site goes down? there would be no way to get them back, right?

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: maggotz]
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maggotz said:also, what would happen to your btc if you have your account on sr funded with a few hundred/thousand of them and the site goes down? there would be no way to get them back, right?


I don't know about the rest, but from what I make of it, your Silk Road account and your Bitcoin wallet have nothing to do with each other. You need to have a Bitcoin wallet to receive Bitcoins in the first place. So if Silk Road would go down, you still have your Bitcoin wallet with all your Bitcoins in it.


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Zorro, Zorro, the fox so cunning and free,
Zorro, Zorro, who makes the sign of the Z.

Zorro sàz:
Consuming tropane alkaloids is like using Windows XP.

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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sr has an escrow system, you have to put btc into the sr system to buy anything.

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: maggotz]
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maggotz said:
sr has an escrow system, you have to put btc into the sr system to buy anything.


:thumbup:

I don't ever leave much, if anything, in my SR BTC "wallet."  Hell, it's down so often that it just doesn't seem worth it to leave it there.

edit:  Didn't see your previous post maggotz.  The site is still good.  Cracked down on out of escrow sales... think they ban for it now.  The "tumbler" is being updated to something more secure, but the details elude me.  I haven't had my VM up and running for about a week now. 


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Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge. - My hero, who will be forever remembered, Carl Sagan.


Edited by 5HTSynaptrip (02/11/12 11:38 AM)

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: maggotz]
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maggotz said:
sr has an escrow system, you have to put btc into the sr system to buy anything.


I wasn't aware of that. So I assume there is a possibility one would lose his Bitcoins if the site would go down. I'm not sure about this AT ALL however, so I hope someone else can answer this question.


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Zorro, Zorro, the fox so cunning and free,
Zorro, Zorro, who makes the sign of the Z.

Zorro sàz:
Consuming tropane alkaloids is like using Windows XP.

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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: Zorro]
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You couldn't access them.  If you notice however, they have a withdrawal PIN in addition to your login password.  So you need to use the PIN for all BTC stuff.  As far as I know, if the site were to disappear or be compromised, it wouldn't be a good thing if you had a significant amount of bitcoins there.


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Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge. - My hero, who will be forever remembered, Carl Sagan.


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Re: About mining Bitcoins (the deep web currency) [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
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I just found some bitcoins berried in my back yard!

Time to get the shovel!


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