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Following a band on tour * 1
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So, im asking advice from people who have followed a jamband on tour. Next year i plan on doing my first full tour. I want advise on how to live on the road. from taking showers to eating and sleeping. Any advise on anything that would seem useful to me is appreciated.


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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 4
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im not sure what exactly you wanna know here....

It all depends on how much money you have....


If you have a car that's the best way to get around....bus/plane is a good way to get to the first show...then you can hitch rides to the next show from there via cardboard sign.

I highly suggest having a means of income...whether it's selling burritos, hat pins, wire wraps, glass pipes, beer or whathaveyou....if you arent working something you are gonna end up broke fairly quickly.

If you have a car you can sleep in it...if it's warm enough you can camp...it's pretty easy to find 5-10 people to pitch in on a hotel so that it cost's next to nothing...and there is your shower right there.

I often stop by hotels and get the free breakfast...buy something for lunch...and usually get dinner from one of the vendors on lot.

If you're gonna be sleepin in the car during the day invest in a pair of blinders.


As for work...if you know somebody who blows glass, mines gems, wire wraps, makes shirts, makes pins, makes patches, stickers, etc, etc, etc...ask about wholesale...unless you of course make something yourself, then you can just sell that.

If not then some good options are beer and food...beer is the easiest but the least lucrative...you can buy a case of cheap beer, put it in a cooler with ice and double your money selling them for a buck.
If you have a table, gas grill, etc, food can be quite lucrative. I often sell falafel sandwhiches if Im not vending something else.


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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 4
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Buy a bunch of drugs then employ people to sell them for you on lot while you rage it up.


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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
im not sure what exactly you wanna know here....

It all depends on how much money you have....


If you have a car that's the best way to get around....bus/plane is a good way to get to the first show...then you can hitch rides to the next show from there via cardboard sign.

I highly suggest having a means of income...whether it's selling burritos, hat pins, wire wraps, glass pipes, beer or whathaveyou....if you arent working something you are gonna end up broke fairly quickly.

If you have a car you can sleep in it...if it's warm enough you can camp...it's pretty easy to find 5-10 people to pitch in on a hotel so that it cost's next to nothing...and there is your shower right there.

I often stop by hotels and get the free breakfast...buy something for lunch...and usually get dinner from one of the vendors on lot.

If you're gonna be sleepin in the car during the day invest in a pair of blinders.


As for work...if you know somebody who blows glass, mines gems, wire wraps, makes shirts, makes pins, makes patches, stickers, etc, etc, etc...ask about wholesale...unless you of course make something yourself, then you can just sell that.

If not then some good options are beer and food...beer is the easiest but the least lucrative...you can buy a case of cheap beer, put it in a cooler with ice and double your money selling them for a buck.
If you have a table, gas grill, etc, food can be quite lucrative. I often sell falafel sandwhiches if Im not vending something else.






Yeah this is the stuff i want to know. Ive saved up for a year or so. ive got about 8 grand. I have a reliable vehicle so that isn't gonna be a problem. I think i wanna try selling beer first. I realize i gotta do something on lot.


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Broken heart don't feel so bad
You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
Not too fast and not too slow

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 1
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8 grand is a lot of dough for a tour.  you can do it for waaaay cheaper then that. 

if youre adventurous you can take on riders for gas money.

selling water you make a lot of dough imo.  beer too...but water is cheap as hell at lowes, home depot, meijer, etc...24 for like 4 dollars.  a dollar a piece is 5x profit.  sure you gotta sell a lot but people buy the shit out of water.  most venues you're allowed to take in factory sealed water bottles...so stand outside the gates and tell everyone how the water inside is 8 dollars but here its only 1 dollar and people will buy them up...also leave the shows when the encore starts, unless its a face melter, and get set up outside the gates with your cooler...people buy the shit out of waters then too.

what tour you plan on doing?  does it start with a P and end with a hish?  :smile:

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: chuptoo]
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Ive gone on tour with ZERO dollars and ended up with a sheet in my pocket a few shows later.

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: chuptoo]
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chuptoo said:
8 grand is a lot of dough for a tour.  you can do it for waaaay cheaper then that. 

if youre adventurous you can take on riders for gas money.

selling water you make a lot of dough imo.  beer too...but water is cheap as hell at lowes, home depot, meijer, etc...24 for like 4 dollars.  a dollar a piece is 5x profit.  sure you gotta sell a lot but people buy the shit out of water.  most venues you're allowed to take in factory sealed water bottles...so stand outside the gates and tell everyone how the water inside is 8 dollars but here its only 1 dollar and people will buy them up...also leave the shows when the encore starts, unless its a face melter, and get set up outside the gates with your cooler...people buy the shit out of waters then too.

what tour you plan on doing? does it start with a P and end with a hish?  :smile:




Thanks for the advise man. How much would you recommend i use for a tour? Im not sure who im gonna follow yet. Phish would be cool but i haven't seen them yet. I saw trey last week at bear creek and i thought that was sweet. I guess i will know closer to spring when the bands start announcing their summer tours.


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Broken heart don't feel so bad
You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
Not too fast and not too slow

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D]
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And yes I believe LSD is a sacrament. I might spread the love but im worried about LEO.


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Broken heart don't feel so bad
You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
Not too fast and not too slow

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 2
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If you have 8 thousand dollars you should be alright. Don't blow it all on nitrous. It's cheaper and healthier to buy food from grocery stores than from fast food restaurants. Buying a hotel room halfway to the next show is a good way to split up the drive. Remember that you are running a marathon not a sprint. Have fun, but take care of your body.

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D]
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Are KOA campgrounds a good idea? i was planning on taking my hammock and a tent with me.


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Broken heart don't feel so bad
You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
Not too fast and not too slow

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D]
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I've been meaning to ask this too, the movie "Almost Famous" reminded me about it, then seeing people hear talk about their dead tours. It sounds like an awesome adventure :smile: never knew people did it. I'm def gonna check back here man

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 1
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LySergic D said:
Are KOA campgrounds a good idea? i was planning on taking my hammock and a tent with me.



yeah koa's are fine.  also in a pinch i think its still legal to sleep in your car in walmart parking lots.  dont forget about rest areas either...just pull over and pass out and hop back on the road when you wake up. 

but trust me...phish is the only summer tour you wanna do.  most fun...best music...best crowds.  hands down.  and just so you are aware a phish crowd is 1000 times different then the crowd you we.re with at just the trey show.  i have 146 phish shows under my belt.  if i can make all four of the new years run, new years eve will be my 150th phish show.  ive seen every other jam band there is to see pretty much and nothing comes close to a phish show or a phish crowd.

after you see one show you will not want to stop.  plus if you like to "take it further" phish music is the perfect vehicle to blast you off and melt yer fuckin face.

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D]
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MisterMuscaria said:
im not sure what exactly you wanna know here....

It all depends on how much money you have....


If you have a car that's the best way to get around....bus/plane is a good way to get to the first show...then you can hitch rides to the next show from there via cardboard sign.

I highly suggest having a means of income...whether it's selling burritos, hat pins, wire wraps, glass pipes, beer or whathaveyou....if you arent working something you are gonna end up broke fairly quickly.

If you have a car you can sleep in it...if it's warm enough you can camp...it's pretty easy to find 5-10 people to pitch in on a hotel so that it cost's next to nothing...and there is your shower right there.

I often stop by hotels and get the free breakfast...buy something for lunch...and usually get dinner from one of the vendors on lot.

If you're gonna be sleepin in the car during the day invest in a pair of blinders.


As for work...if you know somebody who blows glass, mines gems, wire wraps, makes shirts, makes pins, makes patches, stickers, etc, etc, etc...ask about wholesale...unless you of course make something yourself, then you can just sell that.

If not then some good options are beer and food...beer is the easiest but the least lucrative...you can buy a case of cheap beer, put it in a cooler with ice and double your money selling them for a buck.
If you have a table, gas grill, etc, food can be quite lucrative. I often sell falafel sandwhiches if Im not vending something else.





All great info

FractalDust said:
Buy a bunch of drugs then employ people to sell them for you on lot while you rage it up.



The undeniable truth of this cannot be avoided. This was actually how I did all my tours previous to about 2006. Now I just vend my art stuff since it is much safer and I have an amazing wonderful child and need to make sure I am around for him. I have a tour friend currently serving a life-sentence right now for LSD conspiracy from 2004, so that was a huge wake-up call. He has 2 kids.

LySergic D said:
Are KOA campgrounds a good idea? i was planning on taking my hammock and a tent with me.



KOA are definitely the nicer campgrounds when it comes to general up-keep and cleanliness (in terms of just coming upon random campgrounds as you're driving).

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: dwpineal]
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Take a load of crystal/blotter with you :grin:

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 1
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LySergic D said:
So, im asking advice from people who have followed a jamband on tour. Next year i plan on doing my first full tour. I want advise on how to live on the road. from taking showers to eating and sleeping. Any advise on anything that would seem useful to me is appreciated.



Rule # 1 - Have a car. You got that so, check.

Rule # 2 - Bring like 200$ in quarters. ( Why? ) You're gonna want to stop at laundry mats and do laundry yes? Also, if the only place you can find to park is one of those "Pay me with a Quarter" machines, you'll need plenty for the long concerts.

Rule # 3 - Gas station Bathrooms are the friend. Not the enemy. ( Outside bathrooms ONLY!! ) Again you may ask.. "ew wtf.. why?!" Let me tell you! The doors LOCK. The may look gross, but fuck it, y'know? You can take "ready-made" showers in there, shave, etc. Get the water luke warm, and BAM! You can wash your hair, your body, etc. No one will bother you in those. :thumbup:

Rule # 4 - NO SOUVENIERS! Seriously. Get a shirt here and there, but you don't want to go through 8grand and be like "Fuck.. I need Gas! Food! FUCK FUCK FUCK!!! Take it easy on the shopping.

Rule # 5 - If you must eat out. Be smart. Yeah Mcdonalds can sell you a burger for 1.07$ but C'mon. You're gonna get fat! A year in a car. Mostly driving. Not cool! Get something inexpensive and healthy. Salads with grilled chicken are best.

Rule # 5 - No drugs! You're going to be driving a lot. That leaves a lot of room for being pulled over. Keep the pot stash to a min. If you want drugs at the concert, talk to people. Be social. I can't tell you how many J's I've smoked at concerts from other people. Live it up that way.

Rule # 6 - Wal mart parking lots. - Every town pretty much has a wal mart. OR kmart. Sleep in your car there. Park far away, and bam! You're set!  If it's raining and too cold, find a last minute motel for like 50-60$ a night. They'll keep you warm, and are a nice change from your car, and sink showers. Trust me. You have 8 grand it will be nice once in a while.

Rule # 7 - GPS. Enough said.

Good luck OP. Those are my personal rules. When I turned 16 I had 2 grand saved up, bought a car for 1grand insured it for 1 grand, Got a job for 6 months, saved up like 3 grand, and that's what I did. I traveled. For a year and a half. You won't regret. Just follow my rules.


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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: chuptoo]
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Right on man. thank you. That is good advise. I plan on bringing along a solar shower to shower with. I also plan on bringing a grill and cooler so i can make my own food.


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Broken heart don't feel so bad
You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
Not too fast and not too slow

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D] * 2
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LySergic D said:
Right on man. thank you. That is good advise. I plan on bringing along a solar shower to shower with. I also plan on bringing a grill and cooler so i can make my own food.



I first thought I read this as;

I also plan on bringing a GIRL and cooler so i can make my own food.


:rofl2:

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: chuptoo]
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chuptoo said:
but trust me...phish is the only summer tour you wanna do.



:orly: 
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most fun...


highly doubtful
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best music...


definitely not
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best crowds.


If drunken bros are what makes a crowd best, then I agree 
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hands down.


thumbs down:thumbdown:

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after you see one show you will not want to stop.  plus if you like to "take it further" phish music is the perfect vehicle to blast you off and melt yer fuckin face.



There is only one band that takes it Furthur.

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D]
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Well im more into the dead than phish. How is furthur tour? Ive never been to a furthur show. Ive seen the dead and many other side projects, do they compare?


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Broken heart don't feel so bad
You ain't got half of what you thought you had
Rock you baby to and fro
Not too fast and not too slow

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Re: Following a band on tour [Re: LySergic D]
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I don't believe that there is anyone who is better suited than John Kadlecik to fill the void left by Jerry's death. Furthur the best dead related band I have seen. check out some of the most recent recordings on archive. Fire > Viola Lee from here http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2001-11-05 was probably the highlight of the two shows I saw from the last tour. This band is hot and they're only getting hotter.

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