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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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I agree, you shouldn't be messing around with drugs. Ween yourself off of those prescriptions. Social anxiety disorder is not some chemical condition. Pills aren't friends. Depression? Been there, got the t-shirt. SSRI's did not help me, and do not help anyone but the company making them (search for SSRI stories if you want more information).

when you are clean, you'll be able to do those drugs without much tolerance at all. I'm 220 pounds, it only takes me a few puffs of weed before I'm high.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: Visionary Tools]
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i see things this way -most bigpharma pills= bad.

psycadelics= adventure.

together? I dunno  :undecided:



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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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As other people have mentioned, the downside of the meds you're on is that they will prevent you from tripping. You should keep the prescription for the benzo (lorazepam), though, because they make for damn good trips.

Also, keep the "Concerta" prescription, because that is good shit.

Essentially, if you want to trip, drop the wellbutrin and effexor. And, you'll need to wait at least 3 weeks after you stop both before tripping.

Edited by nooneman (09/11/11 03:44 AM)

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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: Visionary Tools]
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I dont know :cheers:  :tensegrin:


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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Only one way to find out..

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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: mushiepussy]
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I'm on many medications. I share one of yours, though, welbutrin. I take that every day and have no problem tripping out. It doesn't affect the trip at all.

Every body is different.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: healing]
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If I remember correctly, Effexor is an SNRI, so it would probably dull out a shroom/acid trip.

For the love of God though, don't take Concerta while you're tripping. I took Ritalin while I was tripping a couple times on mushrooms and it was the shittiest time ever.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: WorldWideWInton]
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WorldWideWInton said:
Lol, only in California...

What I would do if I were you is loose weight and take it from there.  You being fat could be the root cause of some of your problems.  They have you on a lot of meds.  I would work on getting off of those and becoming more healthy. 




Best advice so far in this thread.  Your anxiety/depression will contribute toward the wrong set and setting and is bound to get you into a bad trip.  Deal with these issues first, get off the meds and then try messing with this stuff.

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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: drr]
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Han Jeremy said:
can i ask you this: do you *really* feel better now, than you did before you were put on all those psych meds?


It's hard to say. Because I've been on so many of them at the same time, I can't really differentiate between which meds work and which don't. Lorazepam has worked the most, I think, but I was prescribed it 'as needed' for 2 months max and it's been 2 years. Needless to say I've formed a habit and everytime I try to get off it I get withdrawals. Guh.
What I know now is that the combination I'm on is not working. I'm more miserable than I have ever been before, but I'm scared to find out if that would only amplify if I took myself off one of the antidepressants. (I just lost my psychiatrist too so I'm without someone to talk to about this shit for a while - handy, right?)

drr said:
I too challenge you to question your medications. You are on a lot of drugs already. You don't seem so concerned about what those are doing to you.


I can't believe it takes you a gram and a half of marijuana to get high!! Are we talking brick weed here? Because that is enough to keep me high for a couple days. If that is how your medication affects your marijuana experience, that would alone be enough reason for me to want to quit taking it :stoned2:

If you have such bad anxiety and depression I could not imagine wanting to take psychedelics. A 19 year old fat girl (in your own words) Probably your biggest problem is your physical health. Work on that, and there goes your anxiety, there goes your depression, its sad that the doctor is such a drug peddler that he put you on four medications instead of recommending that you get some exercise. I know from personal experience. Used to be a fatty, at 19 for sure, and now I am skin and bones. Take it from me. You have the power to transform yourself, don't have a doubt. Those medications will make you lazy and docile and zombified into a rut. You will never change, never get over your anxiety and depression, never lose weight, you'll just be comfortable being a vegetable. Start eating healthy food and being active and ask your doctor for advice on weaning yourself off all the meds, and be firm because he wants to keep selling them to you, and he is going to put up a fight. That's my two cents anyway.


That's something I didn't think of -good advice. I'm not morbidly obese but I'm 5'10 - tall and flabby and it's only getting worse. My largest struggle has always been motivation and idk, I can't see myself getting off my ass to eat healthier and excersize more even if it means wonders for my health. I guess I need a good stern talking to on that one. I'm kind of debating putting the "You will never change, never get over your anxiety..etc" bit up on my wall beside my bed.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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I would suggest you:
Not mess with any drugs given the intro you put up here.

JMHO


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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dope said:
The lifestyle of an experimental drug user has always sounded appealing to me - exploring 'altered conciousness' and whatnot.


Are you sure this is not only insecurity? And maybe something you want to test to belong somewhere and possibly find yourself?


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: liquidlounge]
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Your body will need time to adjust to not being on all those medications, and that is after they have left your system. If you stop them, lower the dosage slowly, in small increments, otherwise you'll get withdrawal. A lot of people stop meds cold turkey, then mistake the withdrawal symptoms as a return of their depression or anxiety.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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dope said:
Han Jeremy said:
can i ask you this: do you *really* feel better now, than you did before you were put on all those psych meds?


It's hard to say. Because I've been on so many of them at the same time, I can't really differentiate between which meds work and which don't. Lorazepam has worked the most, I think, but I was prescribed it 'as needed' for 2 months max and it's been 2 years. Needless to say I've formed a habit and everytime I try to get off it I get withdrawals. Guh.
What I know now is that the combination I'm on is not working. I'm more miserable than I have ever been before, but I'm scared to find out if that would only amplify if I took myself off one of the antidepressants. (I just lost my psychiatrist too so I'm without someone to talk to about this shit for a while - handy, right?)

drr said:
I too challenge you to question your medications. You are on a lot of drugs already. You don't seem so concerned about what those are doing to you.


I can't believe it takes you a gram and a half of marijuana to get high!! Are we talking brick weed here? Because that is enough to keep me high for a couple days. If that is how your medication affects your marijuana experience, that would alone be enough reason for me to want to quit taking it :stoned2:

If you have such bad anxiety and depression I could not imagine wanting to take psychedelics. A 19 year old fat girl (in your own words) Probably your biggest problem is your physical health. Work on that, and there goes your anxiety, there goes your depression, its sad that the doctor is such a drug peddler that he put you on four medications instead of recommending that you get some exercise. I know from personal experience. Used to be a fatty, at 19 for sure, and now I am skin and bones. Take it from me. You have the power to transform yourself, don't have a doubt. Those medications will make you lazy and docile and zombified into a rut. You will never change, never get over your anxiety and depression, never lose weight, you'll just be comfortable being a vegetable. Start eating healthy food and being active and ask your doctor for advice on weaning yourself off all the meds, and be firm because he wants to keep selling them to you, and he is going to put up a fight. That's my two cents anyway.


That's something I didn't think of -good advice. I'm not morbidly obese but I'm 5'10 - tall and flabby and it's only getting worse. My largest struggle has always been motivation and idk, I can't see myself getting off my ass to eat healthier and excersize more even if it means wonders for my health. I guess I need a good stern talking to on that one. I'm kind of debating putting the "You will never change, never get over your anxiety..etc" bit up on my wall beside my bed.


It's easy, love. Visualize the person you want to be, and become that person. Don't get too discouraged. It will take a few years, or at least it did for me. If you knew me five years ago, you wouldn't recognize me now, at all. I never thought I would be the person I am today. Thank god or whatever for the motivation to change, wherever it came from. It isn't that hard to eat healthy. Actually it's really easy once you get used to it. Exercise? I'm still as lazy as ever, maybe a little more active but not much. Honestly the main factor for me was soda - drinking tons of sugary drinks constantly. As soon as I cut that out of my diet, and replaced it with plain water, I started losing tons of weight. I wish you the best of luck.

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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: Hygrocybe]
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Hygrocybe said:
Your body will need time to adjust to not being on all those medications, and that is after they have left your system. If you stop them, lower the dosage slowly, in small increments, otherwise you'll get withdrawal. A lot of people stop meds cold turkey, then mistake the withdrawal symptoms as a return of their depression or anxiety.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: Han Jeremy]
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what drr just said is very insightful, and i think it is great advice. imo, i don't think you should take any pschedelics until after you've slowly weened yourself off the psych meds first, and then been off of them a while. in the mean time, do a ton of research on the topic, and that way you'll be well informed and know what approach is best for you to take to psychedelics. btw, i'm going to pm you something, so you might want to check your messages after a while. also, if you drink or eat aspartame(nutrasweet), stop immediatelly! that stuff is straight up poison!


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: healing]
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healing said:
I'm on many medications. I share one of yours, though, welbutrin. I take that every day and have no problem tripping out. It doesn't affect the trip at all.

Every body is different.


Just curious, do you still get blazed on average amounts of bud while on wellbutrin?


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: BoomerMan420]
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BoomerMan420 said:
fuck medications never taken em never will fuck doctors and all there pills being forced on kids I have a friend that is fucked because of those stupid miracle pills that doctors give out like candy. And then you see a commercial about "if you or loved one took any of these medications please call 1800 our bad ( katt williams made tht one up lol)the real one is 1-800 bad-drug haha wtf. You say it takes 1.5 g of bud to get high!!!!fuck that I would not take those pills just because of that not including all the side effects and what i have seen first hand. I hope you can stop taking those pills and realize you dont need them and fuck what that stupid ass doctor says it's all about money he really doesn't give a shit about you or me.


^ This.

If I want medicine, I'll eat a god damn apple.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: dope]
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I can almost guarantee that you will not be physically capable of tripping while on those medications.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: AquaKet]
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OP, do you have friends?  Do you have friends that you trust enough to do this with?  IMHO, if you do psychedelics alone at age 19 (with the insecurities you posted above) without friends you aren't gonna have much fun.

Your first time(s) tripping should be with friends in a loud musical environment with lots of lights and lots of boys.

If you trip for the first time alone in your room you are going to hate it, and it is going to make your life seem even more pointless.


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Re: Should I be messing around with this stuff? [Re: Phenocide]
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bholzer said:
healing said:
I'm on many medications. I share one of yours, though, welbutrin. I take that every day and have no problem tripping out. It doesn't affect the trip at all.

Every body is different.


Just curious, do you still get blazed on average amounts of bud while on wellbutrin?


Yeah.

Phenocide said:
OP, do you have friends?  Do you have friends that you trust enough to do this with?  IMHO, if you do psychedelics alone at age 19 (with the insecurities you posted above) without friends you aren't gonna have much fun.

Your first time(s) tripping should be with friends in a loud musical environment with lots of lights and lots of boys.

If you trip for the first time alone in your room you are going to hate it, and it is going to make your life seem even more pointless.


This is retarded. Just because you think that sounds like a good time doesn't mean that everyone thinks so too. I would hate to trip in that environment. I'm not looking to get fucked up and dance around. I like to quietly explore my own mind in the privacy of my home, or listen to relaxing music with a few close friends.


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