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unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture)
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i was in Pisgah not too long ago and saw what might be the strangest snake i've ever seen in NC. it was about as big around as the average man's arm, sunning itself and stretched all the way out about 4ft from nose to rattle. Here's the strange part. It had yellow bands on a black body with the bands stopping just short of being full wrap-around bands. Black belly, DEFINITELY had a rattle of about an inch long, brown in color. I know these woods and so does my grandpa and he's never seen anything matching my description in 88 years of living on the edge of Pisgah. It's not a copperhead, mocassin, eastern diamondback, or northern water snake. I've seen plenty of them and they're suppoedly the only species of snakes in northwestern NC. Any EDUCATED guesses are greatly appreciated.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie] * 2
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was probably my penis

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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: indica]
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don't you have anything better to do. if you're not going to help then shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: indica]
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anything like this?


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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i was only trying to be helpful

:bored:

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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: audiophoenix]
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no it definitely had the anatomical structure of a pit viper. and the yellow bands go all the way down the length of the snake. closest thing i've seen is called a krait and the banded patern is identical but kraits don't have rattles and i don't know if they're venomous or not.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: indica]
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no you were fucking trolling.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: indica]
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There's only one species of snake that has a rattle, obviously a rattle snake. But there are several sub species of rattle snake. And there are mutant sub species that have different colors and markings than the norm. But if it had a rattle "For sure"  It had to be some kind of rattle snake. And indica that kind of shit really has run it's course on this site, It's just plain immature and really fucking stupid!!


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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Bull snake?


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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Give this a try

Keep in mind that many snakes shake their tale on the ground to synthesize a rattle, be sure that you absolutely saw a rattle.

Also relax, Indica was only making a simple joke, I thought it was kinda funny.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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GuruBushHippie said:
kraits don't have rattles and i don't know if they're venomous or not.


a lit of snakes, the hog nose snake for instance will mimic a rattle snake


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: Altered States]
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it's a rattler for sure, but if it's a mutation it's a really abnormal one. i've just never seen anything like it. not a bull snake, although the yellow banded wolf snake is somewhat close in pattern. and it absolutely had a rattle. it was sitting still and the tail wasnt moving at all so i got a really good look at this guy. i was no more than 3 meters away. i've considered that it could have been a mimic but the rattle was so pronounced. plus the krait isnt native to the americas.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: L-Shroom-D]
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L-Shroom-D said:
Bull snake?



eastern king snake


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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GuruBushHippie said:
it's a rattler for sure, but if it's a mutation it's a really abnormal one. i've just never seen anything like it. not a bull snake, although the yellow banded wolf snake is somewhat close in pattern..



eastern king snake, got them everywhere around here




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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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that's close but the bands were thicker. i thought they were constrictors.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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the bands can vary, some dont have bands but are more speckled, some have
very distinct bands, some are almost all black and as has been stated, a lot
of snakes mimic a rattler


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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as a naturalist i WANT to say it was a king, but im not so sure. im telling you, it had a rattle. i didn't hear it, i saw it. look up the krait and imagine that pattern on a diamondback and that's what i saw. spade shaped head, eliptical shaped eyes (not round at least)


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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oh and i wasnt fucked up when this happened lol. all i had in me was a beer and some vyvanse. hadn't smoked yet. i saw it on the way to my campsite.


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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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krait marking variations








even the hognose snake I mentioned, one which can flatten it's ribs ad appear
cobra like can appear to be something it's not, including the tail twitch.
not a poisonous snake but can fool most and the markings can vary







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Re: unidentified snake!!! need an ID (no picture) [Re: GuruBushHippie]
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I'm thinking it was either a variation of a Timber(aka Canebrake) rattlesnake or an eastern hognose snake. Hognose have round pupils and no rattle though. The timber rattlers have highly variable color from region to region.

Hognose: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=n2J&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1024&bih=516&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=eastern+hognose+snake&oq=eastern+ho&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1964l7091l0l8631l19l12l0l0l0l0l307l1833l0.9.1.1l12l0

Timber rattler:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1024&bih=516&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=timber+rattlesnake&oq=timber+rattlesnake&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=32541l33516l0l38103l6l6l0l0l0l3l285l1208l0.3.3l6l0

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