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Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13795782

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Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row

By Daniel Emery Technology reporter, BBC News


US games publisher Take 2 has parted company with public relations firm The Redner Group, following Twitter comments concerning Duke Nukem Forever.

Redner's contract was terminated after it said journalists who gave the game a poor review would be blacklisted.

Take 2's subsidiary, 2K Games, said it did not share "or endorse" the views.

Duke Nukem Forever, which has been in development since 1998, was criticised for its embarrassing character, dated design and poor controls.

The row erupted when Redner Group's founder, Jim Redner, published an angry tweet as the negative reviews of Duke Nukem Forever started to come in.

"Too many went too far with their reviews...we r reviewing who gets games next time and who doesn't based on today's venom," he tweeted.

The threat was quickly picked up by blog and gaming sites across the world, accusing Take 2 of strong arm tactics.

A day later, 2K Games sacked Redner Group and tweeted that it maintained "a mutually respectful relationship with the press and will continue to do so. We don't condone @TheRednerGroup's actions at all".

The most recent message on Redner's Twitter feed reads: "Again, I want everyone to know that I was acting on my own. 2K had nothing to do with this. I am so very sorry for what I said."
Classic reworked

First announced in 1998, Duke Nukem Forever was cancelled in 2009 when its developer - 3D Realms - collapsed.

It was subsequently resurrected by US developer Gearbox Software which released the game on PC, PS3 and XBox 360.

It now holds the record for the longest time between game releases. That was formerly held by StarCraft, which had a 12-year hiatus.

The series had legions of fans who waited in expectation of the next release.

However, while expectations were high, the final product disappointed most reviewers.

US game website 1Up said the game was one "not even the most maladjusted 13-year-old could love", IGN described it as a "muddled, hypocritical exercise in irritation" although compensated for by "solid shooting mechanics", and Gamespot UK said "it turns a famous gaming icon into an embarrassment".

Rik Henderson, a former co-presenter of Gamesmaster and writer with Pocket Lint, said that he was surprised at such a public statement by Jim Redner, but not the sentiment expressed.

"This sort of thing happens behind the scene regularly from a number of different companies; I've encountered this on many an occasion, naming no names," he told BBC News.

"Considering the number of games that come out every year, not everything is an A list title.

Mr Henderson said it was common practice for firms not to send out review code until a game was in the shops and journalists who broke such gentleman's agreements would find themselves down the list when it came to receiving future games.

However, he added that a game like Duke Nukem Forever had been so hyped up that this course of action was not a realistic option.

"That said, I'm still waiting for my review code," he quipped.

Take 2 refused to make any further comment on the ongoing row when contacted by the BBC.




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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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This kind of shit makes me laugh. Gaming has become so messed up in the past couple of years that it is good to see some justice when one of these cunts get caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

This is just like when Bioware banned some guy preventing him from playing all of his Bioware games that he bought with actual cash, because he questioned their integrity.

There definitely needs to be some regulation in the gaming industry,


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Edited by Newlord (06/18/11 04:11 AM)

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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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It was way over-hyped and over-anticipated now a bunch of cry babies are whining
Because their expectations were way too high and they expected something revolutionary and groundbreaking, it's just a game.
Most true duke fans I've talked to enjoy the game for what it is. But there's way too much shit talking going around, mostly from noobs.


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Most true duke fans I've talked to enjoy the game for what it is.




True Duke fans don't like the 2 weapon system with regenerating health, with all levels not having any secrets in their Duke Nukem. This game is just another COD clone imo.

Just my .2


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Edited by Newlord (06/18/11 04:20 AM)

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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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I thought it looked awful. I don't know why anyone would buy it besides nostalgia factor which I don't have because I didn't play it when I was younger.

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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord] * 1
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I see nothing wrong here. The game sucked. People let them know the game sucked. Thats what happens. Dude got upset over childish reviews and said "Too many went too far with their reviews...we r reviewing who gets games next time and who doesn't based on today's venom"....and gets fired? Fired for what?

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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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I_was_the_walrus said:
and gets fired? Fired for what?



Because strong arming reviewers into giving your game good reviews they don't deserve is extremely immoral and it makes the host company look like a totalitarian piece of shit.

This kind of stuff is rampant in the gaming industry, reviewers are either strong armed or bribed. So anytime these dirtbags get fired, it is always a positive for gamers.

Edited by Newlord (06/18/11 04:28 AM)

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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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Sounds to me like the kids were just trolling. Being extremely harsh for the lols. His mistake was taking the bait...He shoulda let kids be kids.

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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
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I_was_the_walrus said:
Sounds to me like the kids were just trolling. Being extremely harsh for the lols. His mistake was taking the bait...He shoulda let kids be kids.




I don't think you understand. This is about professional reviewers like this http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/duke-nukem-forever/video/6319706/duke-nukem-forever-video-review being strong armed. Not children.


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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Go figure a game that took over 10 years worth of delays to be released sucks dick. Axl Rose would be proud.


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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That review is LOL worthy. The guy is basically whining that it's not CoD: DN edition, bitching about the graphics and choppy play on consoles. Waa waa not enough shooting waahh
Newsflash consoles suck. Play it on a modern DX11 card and there's a massive difference. PC version is 10x better. Then again that's true with most games that are ported to console.
It's not a CoD clone by any means. People just expected it to be.
Terrible review. Gamespot hasn't really been a good review site since like 2006 anyway.
Whatever I don't really get all the hate, I have a lot of fun playing it and that's all that matters. The gameplay is fine. Then again I wasn't expecting the second coming of jesus.
I also think most COD fanboys suck but that's another topic


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Shroomism]
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COD:

2 weapon limit

Regenerating health

Short campaign

Ultra linearity

Overhyped piece of shit

No secrets

DNF:

2 weapon limit

Regenerating health

Short campaign

Ultra linearity

Overhyped piece of shit

No secrets


I don't understand. From what I have seen and played, that's exactly what DNF players recieved: a COD clone.


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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Anything that takes over 12 years to release, and then releases with a shitty Mickey Avalon cover of an already shitty song as it's title theme... what did anyone expect?


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Everlong]
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Duke nukem has always sucked.


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Humility]
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Humility said:
Duke nukem has always sucked.



The level design in duke3d was brilliant and coop in duke 64 was the shit.


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Re: Duke Nukem PR firm dropped following online review row [Re: Newlord]
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You have got to admit though. Dev's copy the COD formula because it sells. I was expecting old school gaming with this game. Still didn't think it was bad and quite liked the dialogue. Not the best, but it does kill time and good for a laugh or two. As a side note, I strongly believe ign gets paid for some of their reviews.


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