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Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience
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I've been a member here for a while. I've seen an alarming(to me) trend of noobs and trolls giving reckless dosage advice lately in the psychedelic experience forum. I feel like someone should have to have been a member here for some length of time before being allowed to dispense recommendations on dosage. It just worries me. I don't want people having freakouts and spreading bad news about psychedelics.

I feel like a large part of the message of the shroomery is to provide positive knowledgeable advice about the mushroom and psychedelic experience, and I feel that this compromises this message.

What do others think about this?


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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Actually, I believe any sort of dosage advice about any drug is not allowed here. The mods aren't doing their jobs in there, methinks.

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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I've seen veterans dispense equally bad advice.

Fact is, with any new mushroom, magic or otherwise, you should go easy the first time.
That's standard advice from all hunting manuals and cookbooks that cover the subject.
It's possible to be allergic to mushrooms the first time you eat them, unusual for a food allergy.

But I've seen a respected member suggest that a newb eat "a handful, ten grams or more". :shrug:


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: Le_Canard]
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I know that's a posted rule in ODD, but I'm not sure about Psych Exp (I'll read them again). Moderation does seem pretty light in there these days though.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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It ought to be the standard answer. IMHO.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: Le_Canard]
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ToiletDuk said:
Actually, I believe any sort of dosage advice about any drug is not allowed here. The mods aren't doing their jobs in there, methinks.


I just read the Psych Exp rules and it says anyone can give advice but to take advice with a grain of salt essentially.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
I know that's a posted rule in ODD, but I'm not sure about Psych Exp (I'll read them again). Moderation does seem pretty light in there these days though.


dosage is allowed there becuase the forum is geared more towards natural psychedelics.

ill pop in more often to pick up some slack there.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: sui]
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Doc_T said:
I've seen veterans dispense equally bad advice.

Fact is, with any new mushroom, magic or otherwise, you should go easy the first time.
That's standard advice from all hunting manuals and cookbooks that cover the subject.
It's possible to be allergic to mushrooms the first time you eat them, unusual for a food allergy.

But I've seen a respected member suggest that a newb eat "a handful, ten grams or more". :shrug:


:werd:

sui said:
nicechrisman said:
I know that's a posted rule in ODD, but I'm not sure about Psych Exp (I'll read them again). Moderation does seem pretty light in there these days though.


dosage is allowed there becuase the forum is geared more towards natural psychedelics.

ill pop in more often to pick up some slack there.


Bless you :smile:

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: sui]
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sui said:
nicechrisman said:
I know that's a posted rule in ODD, but I'm not sure about Psych Exp (I'll read them again). Moderation does seem pretty light in there these days though.


dosage is allowed there becuase the forum is geared more towards natural psychedelics.

ill pop in more often to pick up some slack there.


That would make me feel better. Just cuz they are natural doesn't mean some unstable person isn't gonna flip out and do something stupid on them. Those kind of sensational scenes are exactly what the media has been using for decades to discredit psychedelic use.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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It has nothing to do with the drugs being natural, but with a low overdose risk.

Bad advice may at worst result in a intense bad trip. In general, there are enough replies with good advice to overrule the stupid advice.

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: Annom]
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intense bad trips can also result in suicides, police incidents, bad press for psychedelics etc.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
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Well there is so much information on psyches online that if somebody read a comment on the shroomery and as a result downed 10 dried gs their first time...there was probably no hope for them anyway.

Erowid, my friends. That site has never steered me wrong.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: Anneji]
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I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I saw any moderation happen in that forum. I look at the list of moderators and the vast majority are people who I rarely see on here anymore.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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I don't officially moderate that forum but I do frequent it and if I see posts that need attending to I do so.

Dosage advice in that forum isn't the problem I think. It's the influx of RC and opiate related threads that bother me.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: karode13]
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why dont you just ignore the members you don't like. theres a feature like that for a reason.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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Well, dosage advice is allowed in TPE.  That's exactly why RCs aren't allowed in there.  dosage advice on RCs can be dangerous, but traditional psychedelics are, as W_S put it, GRAS.  Dosage advice isn't really a big deal for them.

Edit:  Guess I should have read the thread. :lol:

Already been covered.  Well, then  :nothingtoadd:

Edited by BothHands (02/26/11 08:58 AM)

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: t00th]
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ksinao said:
why dont you just ignore the members you don't like. theres a feature like that for a reason.


I think it is more of a concern about people that are unfamiliar with the drugs taking too much, rather than it being members he doesn't like.

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: t00th]
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So basicly its still another slerr against people new to this forum correct? So everyone should think that if someone is new to this forum they are ignorant correct? Im new to this forum and been doing psychodelics for 20 odd years, i also have a masters degree in organic chemistry- i know syntheses for entheogens that would make you A:rich or B:tripp for free for ever. but being new to this forum i guess im ignorant so i wont share. by the way, when is the last time any "old schoolers" placed an order with shroomery Sponcer's?


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Edited by jacobensis (02/26/11 09:03 AM)

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: jacobensis]
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jacobensis said:
So basicly its still another slerr against people new to this forum correct? So everyone should think that if someone is new to this forum they are ignorant correct? Im new to this forum and been doing psychodelics for 20 odd years, i also have a masters degree in organic chemistry- i know syntheses for entheogens that would make you A:rich or B:tripp for free for ever. but being new to this forum i guess im ignorant so i wont share. by the way, when is the last time any "old schoolers" placed an order with shroomery Sponcer's?


You wouldn't happen to be willing to share would you?

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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: jacobensis]
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jacobensis said:
So basicly its still another slerr against people new to this forum correct? So everyone should think that if someone is new to this forum they are ignorant correct? Im new to this forum and been doing psychodelics for 20 odd years, i also have a masters degree in organic chemistry- i know syntheses for entheogens that would make you A:rich or B:tripp for free for ever. but being new to this forum i guess im ignorant so i wont share. by the way, when is the last time any "old schoolers" placed an order with shroomery Sponcer's?


I don't mean this against anyone new, I just get concerned when I see so many noobs giving reckless dosage advice. It sounds like you are perfectly qualified to yourself, but I see so many morons that are all like "DUDE, just eat it all!" without considering the possible repercussions of their stupid advice.


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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: nicechrisman]
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How likely is it that this guy has a master's degree but can't use spell check?

How likely is it that this guy has knowledge of some secret entheogen that no one has published a paper on, when the entire point of being in academia is furthering the state of published knowledge?



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Re: Noobs/trolls giving dosage advice in psychedelic experience [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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Kid_Orgo said:
How likely is it that this guy has a master's degree but can't use spell check?

How likely is it that this guy has knowledge of some secret entheogen that no one has published a paper on, when the entire point of being in academia is furthering the state of published knowledge?




dont you dare SLERR him like that! he's an expert on PSYCHODELICS!


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Edited by Pigasus (03/02/11 11:09 AM)

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