Synesthetic said:

Kada said:

Looks like future America over there. I doubt the US military would restrain from killing all of us tho.

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Even when the military gets called in, they usually have a really hard time opening fire on their countrymen. That's what happened when the military got called in Egypt.

Besides, if the US government opened fire on we, the people, our credibility as standing for the people and justice would go right out the fucking window.

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novumorganum said:

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    Q    Robert, why does the U.S. still support countries and regimes that we know do not respect human rights, like Egypt?

      MR. GIBBS:  Well, again, we have documented, again, the concerns that some have had for quite some time.  As is the case with a country like China, we have a whole host of bilateral issues that we deal with countries on, as we did in the recent trip.  There were economic, security and basic human rights issues that we discuss when the President meets with his counterparts.

      Our belief is it is important to have those conversations very directly with those leaders.  If you walk away from the table of engagement, you can’t deliver that message in a face-to-face manner.  And the President believes obviously that's tremendously important.

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Unless one has a lot of trouble reading English, its hard to see how that Q&A can mean we support Mubarak because china told us to.

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makaveli8x8 said:

novumorganum said:

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    Q    Robert, why does the U.S. still support countries and regimes that we know do not respect human rights, like Egypt?

      MR. GIBBS:  Well, again, we have documented, again, the concerns that some have had for quite some time.  As is the case with a country like China, we have a whole host of bilateral issues that we deal with countries on, as we did in the recent trip.  There were economic, security and basic human rights issues that we discuss when the President meets with his counterparts.

      Our belief is it is important to have those conversations very directly with those leaders.  If you walk away from the table of engagement, you can’t deliver that message in a face-to-face manner.  And the President believes obviously that's tremendously important.

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Unless one has a lot of trouble reading English, its hard to see how that Q&A can mean we support Mubarak because china told us to.

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nope no problem reading english over here, its called reading between the lines, but since you only believe exactly whats being told and reported to you then a discussion on this issue is pointless plain and simple.

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The Egyptian authorities are revoking the Al Jazeera Network's licence to broadcast from the country, and will be shutting down its bureau office in Cairo, state television has said.

"The information minister [Anas al-Fikki] ordered ... suspension of operations of Al Jazeera, cancelling of its licences and withdrawing accreditation to all its staff as of today," a statement on the official Mena news agency said on Sunday.

In a statement, Al Jazeera said it strongly denounces and condemns the closure of its bureau in Cairo by the Egyptian government. The network received notification from the Egyptian authorities on Sunday morning.

"Al Jazeera has received widespread global acclaim for their coverage on the ground across the length and breadth of Egypt," the statement said.

An Al Jazeera spokesman said that the company would continue its strong coverage regardless.

'Designed to stifle'

"Al Jazeera sees this as an act designed to stifle and repress the freedom of reporting by the network and its journalists," the statement said.

"In this time of deep turmoil and unrest in Egyptian society it is imperative that voices from all sides be heard; the closing of our bureau by the Egyptian government is aimed at censoring and silencing the voices of the Egyptian people. 

"Al Jazeera assures its audiences in Egypt and across the world that it will continue its in-depth and comprehensive reporting on the events unfolding in Egypt.

"Al Jazeera journalists have brought unparallelled reporting from the ground from across Egypt in the face of great danger and extraordinary circumstances. Al Jazeera Network is appalled at this latest attack by the Egyptian regime to strike at its freedom to report independently on the unprecedented events in Egypt."

As their signals have been taken off Nilesat, our Arabic sister channels are now broadcasting on the following new frequencies:

1) New frequency for AJA & AJM on Nilesat 7W:
10949 vertical  (new)
SR: 27.500 Msps
FEC: 3/4

2) New frequency for AJA & AJM on Arabsat 26E:
11585 vertical  (new)
SR: 27.500 Msps
FEC: 3/4

3) Arabic and Mubasher on Hotbird:
12111 MHz Vertical (Old)
SR: 27.500 Msps
FEC: 3/4

4) Arabic and Mubasher on Arabsat Badr4 (Old):
12034 MHz Horizontal
SR: 27.500
FEC: 3/4

5) Arabic and Mubasher on Arabsat Badr4 (Old):
11996 MHz Horizontal
SR: 27.500
FEC: 3/4

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