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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: DeadHearts]
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I'm not allowed to buy/own a gun. :crankynoweed:


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: 28064212]
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28064212 said:
No friend.

Guns are made for hurting people/animals/what's the difference?

:sad:

I'll take some mushrooms and weed and live in peace.
:sunny:



World isn't designed for peace and love - it's about survival, unfortunately we havn't evolved out of that yet.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said:
13.step said:
I've seen a lot of people saying that guns are our last defence against the government or something like that. How do you imagine that is supposed to work, just wondering.

And Deadhearts, yes, everybody is out to get you...stock up and listen to the voices, they are usually right.



Uhh..

Government busts down your door

a) you have a gun, you shoot them in the face

b) you don't have a gun, they take you away




Exactly.

Australia had a similar shooting, and now look at their gun laws. Pitiful. And, apparently, it's for the 'overall good'. :rolleyes:

And look at China. They are one of the largest weapons manufacturers and exporters in the world. Yet, it is illegal for the common Chinese citizen to own or purchase a gun. This is obvious oppression, but feeble-minded citizens go about their daily lives oblivious to their disadvantages.


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: Eshu]
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Eshu said:
I'm not allowed to buy/own a gun. :crankynoweed:



felony?


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
Well I want something for close range and long to mid range.

I do know I want a snub nose 22 of some sort. Other than that I ave not givin it
much thought.



I carry a .38 snub, the .22s are nice for the lack of recoil (and cheap ammo) but they also lack stopping power. Odds are if you have to pull in an emergency situation you're not going to land a T zone headshot, and that's when you need the attacker to feel a big fat hollow point in the chest.

.22 if you're going to assassinate someone, .38 or > if it's a defensive carry. Just my two cents. If you're concerned about zombies, it's hard to beat a .22LR rifle; it's quiet, ammo is cheap and common at stores, they're accurate, and those little bullets bounce around inside the skull. :thumbup:

Fucking awesome post gzuf, you couldn't be more spot on

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: DeadHearts]
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Who cares if they talk about gun control? There's always a black market.


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: Moronicus]
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Moronicus said:
Who cares if they talk about gun control? There's always a black market.



Who cares if drugs are illegal? There's always a black market...

(I'm not a criminal and I don't want to be charged as one)

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
13.step said:
I've seen a lot of people saying that guns are our last defence against the government or something like that. How do you imagine that is supposed to work, just wondering.

And Deadhearts, yes, everybody is out to get you...stock up and listen to the voices, they are usually right.



Right because what Im saying has anything to do with conspiracy or is illogical in
any way. Why dont you stick youre nose in a book and learn something instead of trying
to call someone out on the internet for no damn reason.

:thumbup:



Amen, despite what some people say now the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.  When it was written owning a gun and hunting were everyday parts of life and taken for granted.  The founding fathers wrote a lot about why they placed that right in the bill of rights.  It is there to keep the government from abusing it's power, because an armed public would be able to change the government if it got out of hand.  Sadly, some people get brought up wrong (yes, I said it) and are taught to believe that guns kill people.  People kill people.  Period.  If everyone owned guns there would be less violent crime and less robberies.  That's not an opinion, that is FACT in this country.  Guns are outlawed (even thought that's unconstitutional) in parts of the country and those places have higher crimes rates.  In places where it's common to own guns and common knowledge that your neighbors own guns there is less crime.  You think that Jared guy would have did what he did if he knew everyone there had a gun on their waist?  Maybe.  But he sure as hell wouldn't have hurt so many of those people.

If guns are made illegal then the only people who would have them are criminals and the government (I know that's splitting hairs). 

Study history, if a government takes the people's arms guess what happens next?


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: Moronicus]
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Moronicus said:
Who cares if they talk about gun control? There's always a black market.




black market guns are useless in the long run
usually, you end up just using it once and recirculating it back into the black market. and, if you're not slick enough, too many deaths racked up on one gun will put you in the pen for a long, long time, my friend. unless you know any militia-specific arms dealers, black market guns are dirty, though ridiculously fucking cheap.


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: meatcakeman]
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I bet if I was to turn on the news right now I would find some more talk about
gun control somewhere.

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: meatcakeman]
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meatcakeman said:
Eshu said:
I'm not allowed to buy/own a gun. :crankynoweed:



felony?




Nope. Schizophrenic.


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: meatcakeman]
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Quote:
Uhh..

Government busts down your door

a) you have a gun, you shoot them in the face

b) you don't have a gun, they take you away




:rofl2:

Why would the government bust down your door? And shoot them in the face?:rofl2:, sorry, it's hilarious, let me get this straight so you think that if a group of highly trained highly armed "government people" bust down your door you're like gonna shoot them all in the face then toss a cigarette butt all over their useless bodies while saying in a raspy voice "don't mess with me bitches"? :lmafo:

The idea that guns keep the government from taking more power is an illusion for simple people, they have more guns then you have and they have tanks and helicopters and fucking missiles and they are trained to kill and many have done it, lol guns protecting you...:lol:
And what about Europe? Most has strict gun-control yet we are all free, maybe just for the moment?

Deadhearts I'm just butthurt that you didn't want to have a civilized debate in the other thread, why don't you want to play?


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: 13.step]
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Look at The US vs Iraq and Afghanistan

We are not exactly rounding up all thos insurgents are we??
Our government sure as hell does not want to go up against
its own people a lot of whom ARE the fuckin military.

Edited by DeadHearts (01/18/11 04:44 PM)

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: 13.step] * 1
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Ahh yes, so let them install the telescreens in our living rooms, it's ok. It's for my good.


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koods said:
Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

Life-long trip report

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
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i myself am quite the pacifist, but i am all for gun freedom.

making gun ownership illegal, or even putting tight restrictions on it, will only push the arms trade further into the black market.

whoever is of the mind that prohibiting people from having a gun is the right thing to do, hasn't learned the lessons of drug prohibition IMO.


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: 13.step] * 1
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13.step said:
Quote:
Uhh..

Government busts down your door

a) you have a gun, you shoot them in the face

b) you don't have a gun, they take you away




:rofl2:

Why would the government bust down your door? And shoot them in the face?:rofl2:, sorry, it's hilarious, let me get this straight so you think that if a group of highly trained highly armed "government people" bust down your door you're like gonna shoot them all in the face then toss a cigarette butt all over their useless bodies while saying in a raspy voice "don't mess with me bitches"? :lmafo:

The idea that guns keep the government from taking more power is an illusion for simple people, they have more guns then you have and they have tanks and helicopters and fucking missiles and they are trained to kill and many have done it, lol guns protecting you...:lol:
And what about Europe? Most has strict gun-control yet we are all free, maybe just for the moment?

Deadhearts I'm just butthurt that you didn't want to have a civilized debate in the other thread, why don't you want to play?




A non-trained army of 300 million people is better than an well-trained about of a couple million. 

You are not free if you can't buy a gun. Why should the government, police, and army have a means to control you like that?  That's what was special about America at the beginning of it's existence, the government trusted the people to have a right to weapons, something that was pretty unheard of in Europe. 

What about the cold war and mutually assured destruction?  That's the idea behind our second amendment. 

The problem is that Americas now are largely apathetic.  They've had it pretty good for so long that they don't believe something like Nazi Germany could happen here.  At this point in history, if the US government tried to take the right to bear arms away from the people it would signal the end of whatever "freedoms" we have left.


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: AlteredAgain]
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I'm not quite sure what my view on firearms is, but I will say that here in the UK they are illegal and I think we have a pretty low gun crime rate (it's always stabbings in the news...). So I do think it works, although I doubt implementing anything now in America would be effective because your country's so vast and they'll just be circulating in vast quantities underground.

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
13.step said:
I've seen a lot of people saying that guns are our last defence against the government or something like that. How do you imagine that is supposed to work, just wondering.

And Deadhearts, yes, everybody is out to get you...stock up and listen to the voices, they are usually right.



Right because what Im saying has anything to do with conspiracy or is illogical in
any way. Why dont you stick youre nose in a book and learn something instead of trying
to call someone out on the internet for no damn reason.

:thumbup:




because you got all your info about this post from reading a book instead of blankly starring at a television and believing what you hear and regurgitating that on here. Haha.  Calm down son.  I doubt that guns are going anywhere. The south won't have it.  You don't remember all the gun control talk after columbine, red lake, Virginia tech?  Still got our guns.

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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: amilibertine]
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DeadHearts you're not making any sense, who is this government and what with will they go after the people if you say they also targeting the military (Is that what you actually meant?) And why would the government go after it's people? To what ends? And go after them how? All of them? Some of them?

Telescreens? Is this a new concept we don't know of in the old world, do tell me more.

Nazi Germany was supported by it's people, if they had guns they would have slaughtered Jews with them. And the people may outnumber the military, but in a sort of revolt, or attack or whatever you guys seem to be afraid of a few ballistic missiles on a couple of cities would shut everybody up quite fast I imagine. BTW this makes no fucking sense, are we talking about the government, like the people in suits coming after you? Or the army? Or the police?


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Re: Anyone else that is not a current gun owner thinking...... [Re: 13.step]
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13.step said:
Nazi Germany was supported by it's people, if they had guns they would have slaughtered Jews with them.



Wow, just wow.  Are you serious?  The people had no guns and would be killed if they didn't fall in line.  The Nazi party went to great effort to accomplish this.  Sure there was some racism on both sides but if you think the german people would be killing jews for the fuck of it you must not know much about how Hitler came to power.


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