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HBWR Question
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I ordered 50 HBWR seeds online, and I have a quick question about them. I don't have much time to do a complicated extraction, nor do I have any means of grinding them into a powder or anything, maybe at most I can get them slightly crushed up. What has worked best for people for getting a strong trip, with the least amount of nausea. If one were to eat them on an empty stomach, what would be the best way to combat nausea (preferably without weed)? And does 10-12 sound like a good dose?


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: bdub]
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I ate 50 of the Ghana strain, nothing. I ate 25 if the Hawiian strain after cutting them up into little pieces with a pill slicer, and got no effects.


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: Darwin23]
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You'll be wanting them as crushed as possible.  If you can't get ahold of an electric grinder, just go outside find 2 rocks that each have 1 flattish surface, apply pressure...make sure it's not the kind of rock that will itself grind to dust and mix with your seeds...and my best dosage method (with some seriously potent seeds apparently) was 8 seeds ground, dropped into a plastic soda bottle, a little water is added, shake, and then swirl it before the big gulp to get as much seed inside you as possible.  If you're not trying to get any biomass in your stomach (I can't think of any way to eliminate the purge from this kind of experience), then use more seeds, let them soak in water for around 1/2 hour, maybe 45 if you're concerned about potency, and do NOT swirl it around before the big gulp.  The cold-water-extract method works pretty good for morning glory seeds, but it takes around 10g of those (I think that's more than the average oral dose) to be tripping from a  cold water extract.  Dosage is difficult with HBWR, too little and it's NADA and too much can be seriously uncomfortable - the dreaded CONSTRICTION.  I once had 14 seeds ground, mixed with water, and stomached - it gave me a horrible headache that actually felt like someone was splitting my head open.  And this did not lead to my ascension to the kingdom of heaven, just a split-open head and misery.  So good luck!


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: Achuma]
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Firstly, you are going to have to grind them up into a powder. (Please keep in mind that this powder is extremely sensitive to heat and light of any kind. Everything should be done in the dark, by black light, by red light, or by candlelight.)


Secondly, I would recommend either a sublingual dosing -or- a cold water extraction (adding peppermint oil extract and alcohol).


Sublingual: Just hold the ground seeds under your tongue or in your lip/gums for ~30 minutes. Spit out when they no longer taste bitter. (This is a good way to avoid any nausea.) With sublingual dosing, take 125% of what you'd normally take through oral ingestion. (Multiply seed count by 1.25.)


CWE: Soak powder in cold water (i.e. in the fridge with foil over top) for 1 - 24 hours, agitating often. Strain out seed powder, squeezing out every last drop of water. (Discard seeds.) Add 7-8 drops of peppermint oil extract and 1/3rd-1/4th oz. of grain alcohol (e.g. Everclear, vodka, whatever). Agitate the solution (i.e. stir, shake, something) for 1 hour. Voila! You have what has been coined as "super LSA."

Quoting from another thread, here is a short description of super LSA:

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Don't expect this concotion to be anything like LSD, it is an entirely different creature, it is more potent imho than LSA, but that's about it. It is definately not as sedating as LSA. With lower potency derivatives, different receptor sites are hit, and at different lowered strengths. Just as [dude] states, it is not as sedating as LSA, it is actually stimulating for a while, this is not placebo.



Lastly, you should keep in mind that a full LSA extraction can be done in a matter of hours (e.g. 2-4). And is no more labor intensive than a CWE. A good guide exists on DMT Nexus.


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: ifoundwaldo]
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Thanks guys! I've been reading a lot to see if i could find anything to help, but this has by far been the most helpful stuff I've read so far. I'll try to let you know how it goes and what method I go with.


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: bdub]
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Sigh...

Just chew up your 8-10 seeds in your mouth for 5 minutes or so, when the flavor is all gone. Spit out the mush. Trip hard. :awetrippie:


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: KingEmblem]
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Another question, would 10 seeds be a good idea for a first dose with hbwr? I've done 2.5g of shrooms once before, and i've done small doses (200-250) of morning glory twice before with minimal effects.


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: bdub]
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you should be able to handle it i think, i hope you get any effects at all

i ate 8 and got nothing.


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Re: HBWR Question [Re: SummerDaisies]
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seeds -> bag -> crush against concrete
if you dont have the materials for this i question the viability of your lifestyle

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Re: HBWR Question [Re: plaster]
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Yeah usually when i trip on them i just lightly scrape the hairs off of them (not too much though) then i will put them in a pepper grinder... Grind it... Then put the powder into emptied tea bags(don't forget to staple it closed) dip it in about 2 cup of (COLD not freezing) water then push the bag against the sides with a spoon. Let the magical juices leak out more. after about an hour or so.. funnel the cold water into an empty water bottle. Then wrap tin foil around it (keep light away from the lsa) then put in back of fridge for about two hours at the most then DRINK AWAY.. my friend


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