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Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA
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Amanita Amerimuscaria (formerly var. Alba) - Please correct if you believe otherwise...























*NOTE* Although I did, I do not endorse the cultivation and consumption of fungi that are not 100% identified by accredited mycologist. Please be careful and responsible with all food from the wild and all psychoactive substances.  Please note the depth of my research and identification process.

1. Finding - Gifford Pinchot National Forest, WA

2. ID - between erowid, shroomery, and various other resources I was able to positively identify my specimens as Amerimuscaria myself for a few reasons.
A.  I collected them in a variety of stages, fully open, concave & splitting at the edges, and unopened.  I also left a younger specimen at the location so that it may mature and drop its spores to ensure future generations. 
B.  The warts on top indicating remnants of the universal veil.
C. Season - I collected on Oct 1, Amanita are found between Aug-Oct
D. Location - Pacific NW
E. Skirt - one of which was partially attached to the gills
F. Concentric rings of ruffles around the base
D. Stalks were white & about twice as large at the base as they were at the cap & had large a large bulbous bulge at the bottom where they entered the ground.
E. Color - orange-gold, except in younger specimens which were red (discoloration due to sun exposure)

3. Verification - Before ingesting any large amounts I took one medium-sized cap (apx 4 inches in diameter) & parboiled it for about 20-30 minutes on a low simmer.  The liquid was made into a tea and the pieces of flesh were ingested slowly along with the tea over an hour time span.  The delicious taste & no negative effects assured me that I had Amerimuscaria.

4. Preparation - The remaining caps (1 large, 6”; 2 medium, 4”; and 3 small, 2-3”) were marinated with balsamic vinegar, onions, garlic, herbs, and olive oil in a casserole dish while the oven was preheated to 375* F.  They cooked top-down for 10 minutes, then were flipped top-up for 5.  A friend and myself ate them on buttered bread with a beer (probably not the best choice of beverage).  They were yummy.  She ate the smaller ones and I had the biggn’s. 2:30 pm

5.  Onset - over the next hour we both had minor abdominal discomfort & got sleepy with minimal other effects.  We decided to nap. 3:30pm

6.  Effects - I slept for 3.5 hours straight, while she woke intermittently.  We both drooled a considerable amount.  Upon awakening I was quite elated and confirmed with my friend that we were both feeling energized, a bit like the onset of a few shots of liquor, and quite warm.  I was giddy, but my stomach was still a bit too upset for dancing.  7:00pm

I smoked part of a cigarette and nearly vomited.  It greatly contributed to my dizziness and stomach unease but I maintained.  I had a residual metallic taste in my mouth.  Experienced a large, runny bowel movement that contrasted greatly to the small solid one I experienced before consuming the fungus.  8:00pm

7.  Comedown -  After a shower I drank a ginger ale which eased my stomach.  I was sober by 10:00pm

8.  Overview - Positive experience all together.  Side effects: mild abdominal discomfort, drooling in sleep, elevated perception of temperature, metallic taste in mouth (not experienced by my friend).  Appreciation for life.

Notes for next time:  Don’t rinse the caps before-hand (I noticed that the water was the color of the caps and possibly removed some of the desired chemicals).  Rather, try to keep them clean when picking.  *While it is important to gather the stalks for identification purposes even if they aren’t going to be consumed, be sure to remove them promptly as they do sometimes contain maggots.  Dry your caps in the sun, it won’t hurt the chemical you want, as opposed to psilocybin mushrooms which you will want to avoid all sun exposure with.  Dry caps, pulverize in blender & make tea - it will be easiest, cleanest, and most efficient. Be careful, and be thankful!

I'd like to thank the shroomery for the excellent and trustworthy posts i found here that helped in my identification process.  A worthy resource and community, indeed. :thumbup:

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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: Happenstance]
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I suggest you cook them well if you intend to experience more pronounced effects. grilled over a flame or dry sauteed until thoroughly cooked will definitely do the trick. Sun drying might not get hot enough, and I've heard of the tea turning out pretty weak.


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: Happenstance]
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Those are actually A. muscaria var flavivolvata. Alba has a white cap, not a red one. Flavivolvata has a red cap and yellow universal veil, as your specimens do, and the cap often fades from red through orange and yellow to nearly white.

Happy mushrooming!

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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: ToxicMan]
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i just dry mine and chomp down but to each his own... have fun!


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: ToxicMan]
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I was reading about this, correct me if im wrong, and i have experience Amanita Amerimuscaria several times with much enjoyment. Sun drying amanita muscaria is more efficient in decarboxylating the Ibotenic Acid to mucimol.  It is not directly linked to heat as a trigger of the decarboxylation as much as it is UV light(which is associated with heat)I have only consumed my species after exposing them to UV light, and then crisping them up in an oven then turning to powder and sprinkeling it over a Subway sandwitch (my fav way. They are harder to dry in sunlight simply because they are a "spongy" mushroom and love to absorb moisture like most fungus.


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: TheShroomanizer]
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i let them sit out for a day, be it infront of a fan or just out in general... then I cut it up into small strips and cook it in the oven at the lowest temperature for a couple hours...

friend of mine gets them cracker dry and eats them with salsa ha ha


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: TheShroomanizer]
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You may be right, but I've definitely found that the same batch of mushrooms cooked were extremely active vs. dried. However, they were dried when I got them, so I have no idea what process was used to dry them.


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: elliusoopius]
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right who knows? its the only way i've done it so far so I have zero room for comparison


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: elliusoopius]
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It is almost impossible to messure the amount of active compounds in each amanita muscaria, the amount of mucimol to muscarine to ibotenic acid varries drasticaly from mushroom to mushroom and sometimes has nothing to do with the process, for example. A weak mushroom prepared properly, could have the same affect as a potent mushroom prepared improperly. Then again 3 Muscarias growing side by side could be, 1-90%mucimol/2-90%ibotenic acid (which the majority could possibly be converted to mucimol if done properly) or 3-90% muscarine. It just varries way too much to tell, where as with pcilocybe mushrooms, (esp home cultivated) the potency seems to stay even throughout certain flushes.

Anyways-enough Hijacking, GOOD FIND to the OP and glad you enjoyed it!! Happy Hunting.


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Edited by TheShroomanizer (10/07/10 11:26 PM)

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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: TheShroomanizer]
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well thats life ha


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: NHperk]
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i recommend making tea or exrtact myself :smirk:


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Re: Amanita Amerimuscaria from WA [Re: Happenstance]
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Drying cracker dry will suffice. Heat is not needed as far as I know to convert most of the ibotenic acid into muscimol. I always slice thin, dry and make into a tea. I havn't had sweating or flushes when dry, and havn't had drooling ever. Then again I'm used to the european Amanita muscaria and only have one experience with them fresh.
Thanks for helping get good info out there, Happenstance.
And Salomon, cheers=D I hope to find some this weekend and dry them out for next weekend.


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