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Ethan didn't have to die
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I just stumbled across this:
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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/05/20/greene.ethan.stacy/index.html?hpt=C2

(CNN) -- When 4-year-old Ethan Stacy was reluctantly sent off to spend the summer with his mother late last month, he was in effect being given a death sentence.

The child never had a chance. He was dead within two weeks of arriving at the apartment in Layton, Utah, where his mother lived with her fiancé.

What could have been done to save him?

"I don't have a good answer for you," Layton police Lt. Garret Atkin, one of many law enforcement officers in Davis County, Utah, who are grieving for the boy who lived among them so briefly, told me.

The facts of what happened to Ethan speak for themselves:

He was living with his father, Joe G. Stacy, in Richlands, Virginia. Stacy and his estranged wife, Stephanie, were involved in divorce proceedings. The divorce was being adjudicated in Florida, where they had lived before she moved west.

Joe Stacy, in a divorce court filing last November, warned of his fears.

His estranged wife was "unstable," he wrote to the court: "The mother has abandoned the child and I'm afraid the mother will come and take him and I'll never see him again."

But the judge in the divorce case, Maura T. Smith, told The Associated Press that she never read the filing. Judge Smith said that Ethan's parents had worked out a settlement, including shared custody, and that the finalization of their divorce last month was "cut and dried."

Part of the decree was that Ethan would live with his dad during the school year, and with his mother during the summer.

The child reportedly did not want to go to Utah with her. "I did not want him to go, and he didn't want to go at all," Joe Stacy told the Salt Lake Tribune. "He kept telling me he didn't want to go."

But in late April, the divorce agreement newly in effect, the boy was put on a plane to fly to Utah with his mother.

What allegedly happened next is described in affidavits prepared by the Layton Police Department:

Ethan, his mother and her fiancé, Nathan Sloop, began living in their Layton home.

On May 5, Nathan Sloop, 31, took the 4-year-old child into a bedroom and began slapping and hitting him on the face and head, police said. Ethan's face began to swell. Police said his mother did not alert anyone or seek medical attention for her son.

On May 6, the couple went to the county courthouse in Farmington, Utah, to get married. They did not bring Ethan with them. The reason, according to police, was that they were "afraid to take him out in public with the swelling and bruising to his face," because they thought that if anyone saw Ethan's injuries, they would call authorities.

So, police detectives said, they removed the inside doorknob of the bedroom where they left Ethan, so he could not get out.

For the next three days, police said, Ethan was vomiting, was lethargic, had a fever, and was not able to eat. His symptoms were consistent with a possible brain injury. Instead of trying to help the child, Nathan Sloop engaged in "a systematic and progressively more violent pattern of abuse."

But no one knew. Joe Stacy had called his son every day after the child had been sent to Utah, but he told the Salt Lake Tribune that beginning on May 5, his former wife began to make excuses on the phone for why the boy could not talk to him. "I never did get a call back," Stacy told the paper.

On May 7, police said, Stephanie Sloop returned home from shopping to find that Ethan had been scalded on his feet, legs and buttocks. Nathan Sloop said the boy had burned himself in the bathtub.

Joe Stacy continued to try to call his son, but to no avail.

On May 9 -- Mother's Day -- Ethan was found dead in his bed.

Police said that Nathan and Stephanie Sloop did not notify anyone, but instead began "to formulate a plan to dispose of the body and deceive law enforcement."

The couple, according to police, wrapped garbage bags around the child's body and drove to Powder Mountain.

Police said Nathan Sloop took a hammer to Ethan's face and teeth, in an effort to make him unrecognizable should anyone ever find him. The boy was then buried.

Late the next night, Stephanie Sloop reported the child missing. She told the Layton police that Ethan had walked away from home. Some 40 officers, in foul weather, searched for the child. But before long the Sloops' story began to fall apart. Late on the afternoon of May 11, officers digging in the mud recovered his body.

Nathan and Stephanie Sloop are being held in the Davis County Jail. He is being held on suspicion of aggravated murder, felony child abuse, obstruction of justice and desecration of a corpse. She is being held on suspicion of felony child abuse, obstruction of justice and desecration of a corpse.

The Davis County prosecutor, Troy Rawlings, told me that he will file formal charges by next Friday, when the Sloops are scheduled to appear in court.

The body of Ethan Stacy, who had never wanted to leave his father in the first place, was flown back to Virginia last week. That is where, with summer coming, he was buried, this time with dignity and with love.



That is fucking horrific.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Cepheus]
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wow fuck that shit, wtf kind of people are those anyways?  Thats like the type of shit where you walk into the court house and blast both of em away getting away with it


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Cepheus]
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thanks for sharing...

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Cepheus]
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Can somebody stop the species? I'd like to get off :facepalm:


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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death penalty

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: JT]
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JT said:
death penalty




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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
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Tchan909 said:
JT said:
death penalty






I personally feel that life without parole is a worse penalty.  They don't deserve to get off easily with a painless death.  They deserve to rot in a cage for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: BothHands]
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true but i don't feel like paying for them with my tax dollars

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: JT]
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Doesn't it cost more money to execute someone?

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: BothHands]
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We need to bring back the guillotine, then all we'd have to pay for is mopping duty.


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Yep...  Or the gallows.


Quote:
Texas
Texas death penalty cases cost more than non-capital cases
That is about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. ("Executions Cost Texas Millions," Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)



http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

It doesn't make much sense, and I don't get how they manage to pay so much money to kill someone....  But that's what everything seems to say.


Edit:  A more reputable source: MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29552692/

It's from 2009, so it's quite a bit more recent that the other page as well.

Edited by BothHands (05/24/10 06:21 PM)

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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3 Years ago this would have made me mad.

Now I have a 3 year old child.  And reading stuff like this makes me physically ill.

I can't even comprehend how you can do something like this.  It just does not compute.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: ShockValue]
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I'm normally against the death penalty but the thirst for blood is strong when reading stories like these. I believe strongly in human rights, but can human rights be revoked from people who have disproved their own humanity like this?


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: ShockValue]
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Urgh. ^

I heard a story on the radio about a guy who had brain damage. He couldn't do anything for himself, all he could do is lay in bed. The mother got a life sentence for euthanizing him with heroin. She did it out of love because he was in constant pain. All this in the UK.

The fucked up part is that the legal alternative to her receiving a life sentence is that they appeal to the high court to get they guys nutrition intake restricted.
You heard right. Instead of killing him, they wanted to starve him to death.

You wouldn't do that to an animal.

All this shit makes me wonder what kind of species we are.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
It doesn't make much sense, and I don't get how they manage to pay so much money to kill someone....  But that's what everything seems to say.



It's because we're squeamish enough about death in this country to insist that any murder carried out in the name of the law be painless, instantaneous, and foolproof. "Humane." This necessitates an incredibly sophisticated and expensive medical procedure.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
I'm normally against the death penalty but the thirst for blood is strong when reading stories like these. I believe strongly in human rights, but can human rights be revoked from people who have disproved their own humanity like this?




A painless lethal injection would not do anything to appease my rage.

A lifetime in prison where they could rot for the next 60 years of their lives.  Where they will be beaten, and live every day in fear of being shanked or raped.  That's a much more horrible punishment imo.

Plus it's 10 times cheaper.

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Death penalty is far to easy of a way to go they deserve solitary confinement with half an hour out time for the rest of there pathetic lives, people say a month in isolation will start to make you go mad.

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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Perhaps a month in isolation would drive these folks sane.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I would put them in solitary with nothing but enough nourishment to keep them alive.  AND A HAMMER.


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Re: Ethan didn't have to die [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
Tchan909 said:
I'm normally against the death penalty but the thirst for blood is strong when reading stories like these. I believe strongly in human rights, but can human rights be revoked from people who have disproved their own humanity like this?




A painless lethal injection would not do anything to appease my rage.

A lifetime in prison where they could rot for the next 60 years of their lives.  Where they will be beaten, and live every day in fear of being shanked or raped.  That's a much more horrible punishment imo.

Plus it's 10 times cheaper.




A very big useless medical procedure that may put the executee in immense pain and suffering for a minute or two before they die.

Im fuckin clueless as to why they cant get a oven bag with a elastic put it over there heads and pump laughing gas into it it kills them in seconds is painless and near instantaneous

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