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The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010
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The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler
VeteransToday.com | May 9th, 2010
article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/09/the-evil-doer-pakistan-and-the-times-square-fizzler/

My 2 cents: I found this article very interesting and informative, and that is why I wanted to share it with you all. I am glad that there is a growing body of Americans out there that are looking into things for themselves rather than just taking the mainstream media's word for it. Feel free to comment and discuss.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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Lol

evil doers

doin' evil thangs


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: I AM SWIM] * 1
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the doers shall inherit the earth


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: wowcoolman]
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lulz


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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You found it informative that some retard thinks Israel was behind the Undiebomber and the Times Square Fizzler?

Go away.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: zappaisgod]
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I found this information useful, for example:

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Right on cue, a reliable political asset, Vice President Joe “I am a Zionist” Biden, charged in a May 6th keynote speech to the European Parliament in Brussels that Iran (i.e., not Israel) could provoke a “nuclear arms race” in the Middle East.

Emboldened by support from those in positions of influence, Tel Aviv defended its “opaque” nuclear weapons policy that same day, citing the policy’s “strategic advantage.” Israel also reconfirmed its refusal to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty until a comprehensive Arab-Israel peace plan is in place.



Although I disagree with your negative view about the contents of the article, I will admit that the author of that article is not as good as other VeteransToday authors.

Gordon Duff is a much better (more thorough) author for VeteransToday.com in my opinion, and he wrote this May 2nd article which covers the Times Square incident as well (in case anyone is interested): http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/02/gordon-duff-time-square-bomb-hoax-israeli-intel-group-shows-its-hand/

By the way, please keep in mind that these authors are Veterans, and have served our country in braver ways than you or I probably ever will. Their views are not only valid and justified, but they deserve our respect, even if you do not agree with their conclusions. Feel free to disagree with them, but disrespecting them by name calling is not appropriate in my opinion. These are not "Brother Nathanaels" as you just referred to one author; these are people that have risked their lives for our country, and are sharing what they feel to be important information with us.

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Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, grunt and 100% disabled vet. He has been a featured commentator on TV and radio including Al Jazeera and his articles have been carried by news services around the world. He has been a UN Diplomat, defense contractor and is a widely published expert on military and defense issues. He is active in the financial industry and is a specialist on global trade. Gordon Duff acts as political and economic advisor to a number of governments in Africa and the Middle East. Gordon Duff is currently working on economic development projects in Pakistan and Afghanistan to counter the effects of poverty and global extremism.


I respect the information that these Veterans are sharing with us, and I hope you do too.


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Edited by PookztA (05/16/10 07:31 PM)

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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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I have zero respect for the "100% disabled vet" Gordon Duff.  He was clearly the victim of a severe head wound.

It is no secret that Israel is not a participant in the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
I have zero respect for the "100% disabled vet" Gordon Duff.  He was clearly the victim of a severe head wound.



After reading this offensive statement, my initial impulse was to insult you for being so disrespectful to our brave veterans, but then I realized that your statement speaks on behalf of your character.

Cheers,

-Abe


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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PookztA said:
zappaisgod said:
I have zero respect for the "100% disabled vet" Gordon Duff.  He was clearly the victim of a severe head wound.



After reading this offensive statement, my initial impulse was to insult you for being so disrespectful to our brave veterans, but then I realized that your statement speaks on behalf of your character.

Cheers,

-Abe


So you think that any anti semitic asshole who spouts deranged bullshit completely counter to the evidence at hand, that radical Muslim douchebags are murdering lunatics behind the attacks, is instantly granted some sort of authoritative portal to truth because he served in the military.  How stunningly stupid.  Top shelf stupid.  I mean you have to order up that brand of stupid by name.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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While I would not put it in the crude fashion that Zappa did, he is correct. Giving his opinion additional merit just because he is a veteran is a strange appeal to authority.

I would argue that his role as UN diplomat and advisory roles should lend his statements more credence than his experience as a soldier, but still do not necessarily make him correct in his assertions.

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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: Redstorm]
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His role as UN diplomat goes even further towards undermining any claim to authority as the UN itself is a festering shithole of anti-semitic slime.  How many Muslim nations are there with votes?  48.  Just to further illustrate the complete depths of depravity in the UN they have Iran on the Women's Rights Commission and Libya on the Human Rights Commission.  The UN is a conglomeration of malignant turds.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
While I would not put it in the crude fashion that Zappa did, he is correct. Giving his opinion additional merit just because he is a veteran is a strange appeal to authority.

I would argue that his role as UN diplomat and advisory roles should lend his statements more credence than his experience as a soldier, but still do not necessarily make him correct in his assertions.


I do not recall saying that him being a veteran means that he is more credible, I believe that I said that it means we should respect his opinion and the information we consider important (even if we disagree with it).

I agree with you that the credentials you mentioned make Gordon Duff's opinion more credible, not his veteran status.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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PookztA said:
Redstorm said:
While I would not put it in the crude fashion that Zappa did, he is correct. Giving his opinion additional merit just because he is a veteran is a strange appeal to authority.

I would argue that his role as UN diplomat and advisory roles should lend his statements more credence than his experience as a soldier, but still do not necessarily make him correct in his assertions.


I do not recall saying that him being a veteran means that he is more credible, I believe that I said that it means we should respect his opinion and the information we consider important (even if we disagree with it).

I agree with you that the credentials you mentioned make Gordon Duff's opinion more credible, not his veteran status.



Really?  Why?  What statement did he make that you find more credible because he is associated with that cesspool of anti-semitic slime, the UN?  Did you know that a Nazi was Secretary-General of the UN not that long ago?

I do not have to respect any opinion on the basis of it's source.  The opinion stands alone and I find his to be particularly deranged, whatever ersatz credentials he may have.  I judge the man based on his opinion.  I do not judge the opinion based on the man.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: zappaisgod]
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This was interesting

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10412#p39957
What the fuck was that, one might ask.

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/index.php

It wobbles the mind.  That cesspool has to be visited to be believed


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: zappaisgod]
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I posted my '9/11 & Free Energy' article there because it is a 9/11-related forum.

I am not anti-semetic.

After I posted my '9/11 & Free Energy' article there, then people started accusing me of being "a zionist" that was a "disinfo agent" that "changed my name" or something. They were accusing me of false things, so I posted some information about myself to let people know that I am a real, genuine person, that was there to post what I considered to be important information regarding 9/11.

Anyway, now you are attacking me and being rude to me, so I am going to just ignore ya more from now on.

Cheers,

-Abe


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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I just thought it was real interesting what that site you are a memebr of is all about.  It isn't 9/11 truth.  Nor was that link to Gordon Duff about 9/11, and neither has anything to do with Judy Wood or directed energy weapons or thermite or you getting remved from a petition.
PookztA said:
I am not anti-semetic.


Bullshit.  This thread has nothng to do with 9/11, so your defense that you are only interested in 9/11 truth is, clearly, complete bullshit.
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After I posted my '9/11 & Free Energy' article there, then people started accusing me of being "a zionist" that was a "disinfo agent" that "changed my name" or something. They were accusing me of false things, so I posted some information about myself to let people know that I am a real, genuine person, that was there to post what I considered to be important information regarding 9/11.


I don't really care.  This thread plus your membership there exposes you for what you are.
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Anyway, now you are attacking me and being rude to me, so I am going to just ignore ya more from now on.

Cheers,

-Abe


If exposing the truth is an attack, then I am a mean ass motherfucking pit bull.  Especially for anti-semitic assholes trying to deflect the blame for radical Muslim murders onto their greatest victim.  Your threads here are going to look mighty weird to you from now on if you ignore me.  But don't worry, you'll still have that deranged dipshit forum, Conspiracy Theories, to post in.  I have no desire to get infected with the brand of lunacy peddled over there and it just annoys me.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: zappaisgod]
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Oh come on. It's what makes this forum fun to read.

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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: PookztA]
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(even though you live in Canada, I sure hope you respect USA veterans, as I respect Canadian veterans).


Zappa lives in Canada?:rofl2:

No wonder he's never been sick in his life. He would be too ashamed to not have to pay the doctor.


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Re: The Evil Doer Pakistan and the Times Square Fizzler | May 9th, 2010 [Re: Heffy]
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Heffy said:
Zappa lives in Canada?:rofl2:

No wonder he's never been sick in his life. He would be too ashamed to not have to pay the doctor.


oh shit sorry, I was using part of a reply I had posted in another forum to another person that had a complaint similar to Zappa's. The original person was a Canadian, but I have no idea what Zappa is. I am going to edit that part out now, sorry about that :frown:


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