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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
Anonymous #14 said:
Anonymous #2 said:
So I decided to keep away from weed and generally formed an opinion that people doing intellectual work should not smoke weed regularly. (based on personal experience).


So, based on your personal experience with weed, you have formed an opinion that all other people should not do intellectual work while smoking weed regularly?


Do you have any idea of how retarded that sounds? :imslow:



What do you propose that i base my opinion on shit without having tried it? You know how retarded that sounds?

I knew that there are going to be "i can handle it" backlash when I wrote the original post, and how retarded does that sound, basing opinions on how it affects yo, right, right? :wink:

WTF did you expect, people posting objective scientific papers on how cannabis affect people differently based on genetic makeup of the subject, kind of cannabis and THC / Cannabinoid ratio e.t.c.?

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And I did't say that people should't do intellectual work when they smoke cannabis regularly, I said that people that do intellectual work should not smoke cannabis regularly, big difference, and I stand by my statement.



I've actually found that my short term memory and concentration skills have dropped since quitting smoking regularly...

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #13]
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^^
you sound like a christian when you tell them god doesnt exist
you should form an opinion on things based on multiple experiences, from multiple viewpoints, otherwise you will just butt heads with everyone over trivial shit



Multiple experiences is not the issue here, I did't from this opinion on one joint if that's what people think.

Multiple viewpoints, well there are plenty of them, especially here, like last post:

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I've actually found that my short term memory and concentration skills have dropped since quitting smoking regularly...



But thus far all arguments agains me have been of equally subjective form, and I don't get why I get jumped on for not being objective, beside there seem to be people that share same experience I had, and you will find that it's also seems to be pretty much confirmed by the little science that has been done on the matter.

Edited by Anonymous (04/26/10 01:21 AM)

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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:happyweed::billymaythumbup:
:2cents:

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #11]
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Anonymous #11 said:
Anonymous #5 said:
Anonymous #2 said:
I don't. Because for me it's fast becomes a habit of spending all my free time smoking weed and watching movies. Nice as it is I have other shit to do.  And it messes with my ability to concentrate, like next day it takes me much longer to read, understand and remember shit. So I decided to keep away from weed and generally formed an opinion that people doing intellectual work should not smoke weed regularly. (based on personal experience).



this is how i fel about it as well. i'm an on/off smoker. ideally; i don't smoke during the semester. if i do smoke, it quickly turns into a habit that empties my pockets and drains me of ambition. i still love it though. i envy those that don't need to use their minds.



i smoke every day
i consider myself an intellectual
i also consider myself to be above average
im an engineering student finishing 3rd year, and going into an internship
My last report card had 1 B+ on it, the rest were all A's
before that, same deal
and this semester probly wont be too much different
you just gotta prioitize your shit, i dont smoke until im done everything that has to be done, and after that its bowl city!
:bonghit:



it's funny; i'm in the exact same position as you. i'm an ME student. but i quickly turn into an addict with no self control so i just can't do it. lol@ you considering yourself an intellectual. do you walk around telling people you're smart? lol@u

Edited by Anonymous (04/26/10 02:09 PM)

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I've enough anxiety/paranoia as is. I don't need any more. I don't even like doing anything remotely illegal. Victim of a "wrong-house raid".

I really should have sued the city for all the trauma it's caused. It's such a shitty situation to have people screaming at you with guns pointed at your chest & head while others are yelling "Clear!" in other rooms and snagging innocents down to the floor while you listen to them cry and babble like children not to die.

I'm all set for now.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #19]
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Anonymous #19 said:
I've enough anxiety/paranoia as is. I don't need any more. I don't even like doing anything remotely illegal. Victim of a "wrong-house raid".

I really should have sued the city for all the trauma it's caused. It's such a shitty situation to have people screaming at you with guns pointed at your chest & head while others are yelling "Clear!" in other rooms and snagging innocents down to the floor while you listen to them cry and babble like children not to die.

I'm all set for now.



i can relate. i've never been charged, but i've been in enough situations with cops that i get hella paranoid even if i have no reason to when i smoke weed.

i still enjoy it with friends every once in a while when we are drinking or doing something else to take the edge off, but by myself...no way. i enjoyed my time as a pot head but alas, my body is telling me that it's time to move on.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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i dont.

weed inhibits me from making changes in my life.

once i can rationalize that my current situation is supreme then i will smoke again.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #21]
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I don't. Bro is a weed hound and burns through so much, and my natural tolerance is pretty high too. Just not my thing, my friends said I am defiantly geared to be a coke addict with my go go go personality, but no desire to touch the stuff. I do like mushrooms, however.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #22]
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When I smoke weed I get lazy. So I stopped.

Every time I smoke it now I get this feeling of "...I've been down this road before....Boooooring!"

For some people, Its just a bad habit. For others, its a necessity.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #21]
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Anonymous #21 said:
weed inhibits me from making changes in my life.




I react similarly in the way that i cannot prioritize and act upon the important things in life when stoned all the time, however, I think it all comes down to your mental stability at certain periods in your life. If your life is overwhelmed by stress, or your unsettled/unsure about the future, i find smoking weed just grounds you in that position, keeping you partially satisfied when high and in doubt when not; which can obviously turn out badly. Although, I'm currently in a secure relationship with a good job and a home that i own, so smoking cannabis just puts me moreso in connect with my inner happiness.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
Anonymous #14 said:
Anonymous #2 said:
So I decided to keep away from weed and generally formed an opinion that people doing intellectual work should not smoke weed regularly. (based on personal experience).


So, based on your personal experience with weed, you have formed an opinion that all other people should not do intellectual work while smoking weed regularly?


Do you have any idea of how retarded that sounds? :imslow:



What do you propose that i base my opinion on shit without having tried it? You know how retarded that sounds?


I propose that you don't base your opinion of what other people would experience while high on weed based on your personal experience of the same.

Is this concept really that difficult to understand? :lol:



Anonymous #2 said:
I knew that there are going to be "i can handle it" backlash when I wrote the original post, and how retarded does that sound, basing opinions on how it affects yo, right, right? :wink:

WTF did you expect, people posting objective scientific papers on how cannabis affect people differently based on genetic makeup of the subject, kind of cannabis and THC / Cannabinoid ratio e.t.c.?


Obviously, some people can do "intellectual" work while high, and others cannot--to say that just because you cannot, then neither can anybody else, is ridiculous on an incredibly large amount of levels.



Anonymous #2 said:
EDIT:
And I did't say that people should't do intellectual work when they smoke cannabis regularly, I said that people that do intellectual work should not smoke cannabis regularly, big difference, and I stand by my statement.


And some people get by fine getting high regularly and doing intellectual work.


BTW, I don't see the difference between "people should't do intellectual work when they smoke cannabis regularly and "people that do intellectual work should not smoke cannabis regularly". :justdontknow:

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #24]
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Anonymous #24 said:
Anonymous #21 said:
weed inhibits me from making changes in my life.




I react similarly in the way that i cannot prioritize and act upon the important things in life when stoned all the time, however, I think it all comes down to your mental stability at certain periods in your life. If your life is overwhelmed by stress, or your unsettled/unsure about the future, i find smoking weed just grounds you in that position, keeping you partially satisfied when high and in doubt when not; which can obviously turn out badly. Although, I'm currently in a secure relationship with a good job and a home that i own, so smoking cannabis just puts me moreso in connect with my inner happiness.




yah... i think other than occasions i should stop smoking..  sometimes it puts me in my zone- mostly when i can just worry about nothing ,  but i think smoking sometimes inhibits from getting out my situation..  i gotta fucking change shit  but it doesnt even seem possible.        fluctuating moods and weed  dont always mix good...  and it makes me feel self consious when i gotta deal with bullshit like college .  fml

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #25] * 1
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I propose that you don't base your opinion of what other people would experience while high on weed based on your personal experience of the same.

Is this concept really that difficult to understand?



I think you missed the "recommendation" part.  I am not trying to establish the god damn law here prohibiting people from using cannabis.

If a person with experience tells you "i don't recommend you taking 50g dried shrooms tonight" will you start bitching about that person basing his opinion on his own tolerance level and it does not apply to everyone? No, you will (hopefully) take that persons experience into advice and perhaps reconsider by increasing the dose gradually over several trips to see if you can handle it.

A recommendation does not need to be the absolute truth with no exceptions in order to be a valid point, it just needs to apply to sufficiently large audience to raise their awareness to the possibility, and based on what we know about cannabis it does.

Hope was that when people are sitting with a problem and thinking "this shit is too hard" that they remember my recommendation and try to lay of the pot for a wile to see if it gets better.

I am not trying to tell people what they are experiencing, they don't need to listen to the recommendation if they are doing fine, thats why it is a recommendation and not the law.

I don't know how I can make it more clear.

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Obviously, some people can do "intellectual" work while high, and others cannot--to say that just because you cannot, then neither can anybody else, is ridiculous on an incredibly large amount of levels.



Hope the clarification of recommendation above cleared up this one as well.

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And some people get by fine getting high regularly and doing intellectual work.



Well again back to the meaning of recommendation.

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BTW, I don't see the difference between "people should't do intellectual work when they smoke cannabis regularly and "people that do intellectual work should not smoke cannabis regularly".



That might be the reason behind this whole discussion.

Recommending not to do work when using cannabis implies that work done on regular cannabis use will in some form or another be worse then work done without cannabis, that is that work quality will suffer hence: don't do work while on cannabis.

But that is not what I am saying, what I am saying is that time consumption of doing the same work might increase if you use cannabis regularly hence the recommendation not smoking when doing such work. That is the difference.

And again due to nature of the recommendation... e.t.c. e.t.c.

Hope this cleared it up once and for all.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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i get drug tested because im a pilot.i hate breathing in any kind of smoke hooka or weed . i do enjoy my mescal lsd and shrooms

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #26]
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Anonymous #26 said:
i get drug tested because im a pilot.i hate breathing in any kind of smoke hooka or weed . i do enjoy my mescal lsd and shrooms



I'm glad I noticed this... I always think to myself "I wonder if people like commercial drivers, airline pilots, high-up governmental types tend to trip more than others cause they get watched when they piss"...

I guess some do.. :smile:

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #18]
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i like sedatives. they leave me sedated.

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Re: does anyone on the shroomery not smoke weed? [Re: Anonymous #27]
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i dont, i get paranoid anymore... i think if it was legal then i wouldnt have that problem because of worry for work and probation.

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