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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: Heffy]
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there was alot of streams earlier since it was already being that they are in dubai(i think)


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: LiquidSmoke]
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ph34r said:
Don't get me wrong, I hope this fight will be as good as you are saying it will be. I'm just not seeing it happen.



Eating my words. Frankie's movement was really impressive and really kept him in the fight the entire way. Very close fight, but I'm LOLing @ whoever scored that fight 50-45 for Frankie, can't be serious. BJ looked more damaged but he landed the bigger shots and without a doubt won the first 2 rounds. 3 and 4 were really close, and Frankie won the 5th.  The judging of this bout was horrendous.

Penn's takedown defense was great as expected, defending like 19/20 easily, and managing to stand back up within seconds when Frankie did manage to get the 1 takedown. Penn's jab was very effective, particularly in the first 3 rounds but Frankie was staying right in there the whole way and eventually tiring BJ out. I'll have to see the fight metrics to see for sure how close the fight was. Makes you wonder who will get the next title shot, Maynard has already beaten him and he was probably next in line. Will they do that rematch, or will BJ get an immediate rematch?

and LOL @ Anderson Silva clowning Maia for 5 rounds. I'm curious to know if he was really tired in the final rounds and that's why he didn't attack. Very strange fight.




LiquidSmoke said:
once again, more proof that you are a typical TUF noob.  You are clueless my friend, and you proven wrong over and over again if you saw the fight.



:facepalm:


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Edited by ph34r (04/10/10 11:11 PM)

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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: ph34r]
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LOOK at the Machida/Shogun fight then Penn/Edgar.  How in the FUCK did Edgar win?  I thought the judges showed more bias toward the champ, as in you have to win that belt and not just barely land a punch more or get one shitty take-down that lead to jack shit.

I was disappointed that it even went to decision but everyone in the room with me was AMAZED Penn lost his belt.  I did not think that was a valid decision, and like the poster before me.. even if Penn did lose the scoring was so fucked it isn't even funny.


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
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the fight was about as close as Shogun-Machida


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: LiquidSmoke]
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Edgar moved towards Penn's power all night.

Too reliant on his Jab. Edgar negated it. Beautiful plan.

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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: HagbardCeline]
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HagbardCeline said:
Any streams for this one?



For future reference "MMA mayhem" always has good streams.

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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: Sticky Green]
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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: ph34r]
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Nice link... That judge is out of the fuckin loop I think.  :lol:

Crosby = :flowstone:


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
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Just watched the Penn vs. Edgar fight now.  I see EXACTLY why Frank Edgar won.  For whoever made the comparison, this was not anything like Machida vs Shogun.  Edgar was by and large the aggressor with many take down attempts (two successes), effective striking and head movement, etc.  He essentially neutralized or avoided BJ Penn's strengths without taking much damage.  ie: He really went for the title.


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: Society]
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Society said:
Just watched the Penn vs. Edgar fight now.  I see EXACTLY why Frank Edgar won.  For whoever made the comparison, this was not anything like Machida vs Shogun.  Edgar was by and large the aggressor with many take down attempts (two successes), effective striking and head movement, etc.  He essentially neutralized or avoided BJ Penn's strengths without taking much damage.  ie: He really went for the title.



I agree with you. Edgar was usually the one initiating the exchanges, as well as going for takedowns and I think that made the difference. Penn was quite passive, only looking for the counter.

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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: EmptySpaces]
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And just watched the Silva vs. Maia... I've lost a lot of respect for Silva.  His arrogance has been inflating since his second fight with Rich Franklin.

He's clearly an incredible fighter, but so much of his style is a head game.  I don't see why there are such declarations of him being the best.


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: Society]
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Society said:
He's clearly an incredible fighter, but so much of his style is a head game.  I don't see why there are such declarations of him being the best.



Win        Chris Leben
Win        Rich Franklin
Win        Travis Lutter
Win        Nate Marquardt
Win        Rich Franklin
Win        Dan Henderson
Win        James Irvin
Win        Patrick Cote
Win        Thales Leites
Win        Forrest Griffin 
Win        Demian Maia


Personally I'd put Anderson Silva at #3 p4p in the world (with GSP #1 and fedor #2 if you care), but his record during the past half decade speaks for itself. I can see pretty easily why he would be considered the best.


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: ph34r]
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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: ph34r]
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ph34r said:
Society said:
but his record during the past half decade speaks for itself.





Records do not define a fighter.


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: Society]
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Society said:
ph34r said:
Society said:
but his record during the past half decade speaks for itself.





Records do not define a fighter.



So winning fights does not define a fighter? It does to me. Maybe not 100% but a very large percent. Who they fight, who they beat, and who they don't fight.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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I think a fighter is defined by how they fight rather than a W or L.  Some fighters simply aren't pushed, and some fighters have victories that really aren't that impressive.  I personally find several of Silva's wins to be relatively unimpressive.  In several of his recent fights, I feel like I've seen several holes in his game exposed.


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Re: UFC 112: Penn vs Edgar [Re: Society]
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In several of his recent fights, I feel like I've seen several holes in his game exposed.



I'll believe it when I see it. What I've seen is a fighter fantastic with strikes and brilliant at avoiding strikes and a rock solid ground game that he rarely needs.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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